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With regard to children’s programs and some adults’ programs, they propagate the spirit of western culture and promote western traditions, and they attract people to western-style parties and clubs.

One of the effects of this culture is the adoption of imaginary examples instead of following the example of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), his companions, the scholars and the mujaahideen. So children start to imitate Superman, Batman and Spiderman and other imaginary characters who do not exist, and they lose out in following the real example, as they get confused by so many imaginary examples who have no faith.

Dr. Wahbah al-Zuhayli, IslamQA 36 Comments [10/15/2012 3:14:31 AM]
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Horus IX

So, reading about imaginary characters are bad, unless it is about your pedophile prophet (Peanut Butter and Jelly be upon him) is evil? Fuck you!

10/15/2012 3:59:52 AM

louislois

It's a shame all those comic book superheroes didn't massacre their political enemies, rape children, and enforce their beliefs on the people they conquered like the early figures of Islam, huh?

10/15/2012 4:03:13 AM

Filin De Blanc

Children imitating Superman? Oh no, we can't have them being all...heroic and stuff!

10/15/2012 4:04:51 AM

Leighton Buzzard

No fiction in Islam? These guys are real down on fun, aren't they?

10/15/2012 4:27:03 AM

Meishayuri

Oh my god! Children playing make believe is bad! LALALALALALALALA!

10/15/2012 4:42:54 AM

UHM

Funny, you'd think vigilanties taking the law into their own hands would be right up these guys ally.

10/15/2012 4:52:46 AM

Doubting Thomas

How dare those kids imitate imaginary characters and not the prophet (piss and shit be upon him).

10/15/2012 5:29:28 AM

Mister Spak

"One of the effects of this culture is the adoption of imaginary examples instead of following the example of the Prophet"

This is a case of failing before you start.

10/15/2012 5:44:11 AM

Raised by Horses

@Leighton Buzzard

FUN HOURS ARE DESIGNATED BETWEEN 14:00 AND 15:00. NO CARTOONS. NO MUSIC. NO DANCING. NO SINGING. NO PLAYING CARDS. NO ALCOHOL. NO LOOKING AT OR THINKING ABOUT THE OTHER SEX. NO THINKING ABOUT SEX, PERIOD. PRAYER MATS TO BE BROUGHT OUT IMMEDIATELY AFTERWARDS. GOD BE PRAISED.

10/15/2012 6:17:11 AM

John_in_Oz

Once they're exposed to the concept of fiction, kids recognise it no matter how you try to market it.

10/15/2012 6:48:15 AM

Leighton Buzzard

@ Raised by Horses: sounds like a typical boarding house in Blackpool.

10/15/2012 7:28:03 AM

freako104

Batman and Superman did their best in comics, movies and video games to not kill even their most hated nemesis. Your god calls for death of unbelievers. That you want children to follow your deity and not heroes who had a sense of compassion speaks about you.

10/15/2012 8:48:45 AM

Anon-e-moose

"With regard to children’s programs and some adults’ programs, they propagate the spirit of western culture and promote western traditions, and they attract people to western-style parties and clubs.

One of the effects of this culture is the adoption of imaginary examples instead of following the example of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), his companions, the scholars and the mujaahideen. So children start to imitate Superman, Batman and Spiderman and other imaginary characters who do not exist, and they lose out in following the real example, as they get confused by so many imaginary examples who have no faith."

Allah. Lauren Faust (Ponies and Blessings Upon Her):



I've shown you mine, you show me yours.

Moral: Lauren Faust (pbuh) created "My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic". Her Alicorn is effectively God in pony form. Creator. God. Y'know, Al ZuFAILi, it does one's deity no harm whatsoever to be seen, thus one doesn't require such a pointless concept as 'faith' in the first place. And at least we can see Superman, Batman, Spiderman et al.

Fictional cartoon/comic characters. Deities. What's the difference? But at least we Sci-Fi fans/Bronies possess something called 'Suspension of Disbelief. And that's the difference.

--EDIT--

@Spukikitty

If you were a pony, you'd be a Unicorn, like Twilight Sparkle in the above pic (Twi is best pony; she's an intellectual, and I like intellectuals). A magic-user (via the horn), and your Cutie Mark would be an Ankh. :3

10/15/2012 8:49:49 AM

Ludd

Yeah! Follow the original imaginary friend 'Allah', or as you may know him 'God".

10/15/2012 9:39:40 AM

SpukiKitty

@Anon-e-moose

And ponies are cute, too!


Dr. Wahbah al-Zuhayli = The IslamoFundy answer to Miss Trunchbull (Cats & School Lunch be Upon Her)!

10/15/2012 9:50:24 AM

Mad_Jester

Western media portrays Western culture and Western values? The Hell you say! It's almost like they made it for themselves!

And frankly, I'd rather have kids portraying Batman or Spider-Man than a lot of the characters in the Koran, Torah or Bible.

Hell, I'd rather have kids portraying Doc Ock or the Joker. At least they're equal-opportunity murderers who only kill in small batches at a time.

10/15/2012 10:39:20 AM

Mattiedef

I've never heard of Early Muslims raping children, though I do hear hear about modern fundie ones and the 12 year old marriage age. The "massacre Political Enemies" is bunk, though they weren't above assassination in raising position, and enforcing beliefs onto others were also denied... by the Koran and Hadiths (Sic). You can tax them a little more, but they have to convert without threat of force. Conversion by threat of force is no conversion at all.


WE would assume the Ponies are Polytheists then, because there's Nightmoon? (Memory Fail)), Discord, and Cellestia.

Now that I'm done defending Islam, let's tackle this fundie.

I'm sorry Islam has no good superheroes from a sphere that has no interest in it. But that's no reason to deride them. Try to make as fun, equvilant heroes who prefer bloodless victory (Like your Own Prophet took Mecca). Don't be a dumb fundie who is the "Stop having fun" guy.

BTW, Guile Heroes are the best. There's a reason the world loves Doctor Who, and he doesn't carry a GUN.

10/15/2012 11:00:19 AM



Make better cartoons then.

10/15/2012 11:47:04 AM

SpukiKitty

@Anon-e-moose

Why, thankies! I'm happy to be Twilight Sparkle!

Magic & Intellect...and Purple & Pink...and a Unicorn! That's a nice package!

....Actually, I'm a hybrid of Twilight Sparkle & Pinky Pie.

I AM PINKY SPARKLE!

(Made This With A 'Pony Builder' Thingy On DeviantART)


My Cutie-Mark.

10/15/2012 12:01:50 PM

Atheissimo

I'd much, much, much rather my child grew up with Spiderman as a role model than Allah.

Spidey's flawed like all of us, but he does his best to be a hero and he's sharp while he's doing it.

Allah is all the worst things about a screaming toddler, and he's supposed to be perfect. Bollocks.

10/15/2012 12:15:30 PM

mattiedef

I find spidie to be a teenager experciening wangst. He annoys me.

He also mentions following the prophet and scholars, not allah. Inkstains are best to have on a man's clothes. Not sure how that hadith partically goes, but basically... Scholars are greater than warriors.

10/15/2012 12:28:17 PM

Snarker

Superman? Batman? Spiderman? Please, all the cool kids imitate The Doctor.

10/15/2012 1:53:55 PM

D Laurier

@Mattiedef
Islam does have one cultural equivalent for superheroes.
Nasrudin.
Unfortunately most of the Nasrudin stories were burnt by the various western colonial masters who enslaved the islamic world for the first half of the 20th century... and the rest were burnt by Wahabi fundies like Dr Wahbah al-Zuhayli in the last two decades or so.

10/15/2012 2:11:36 PM

D Laurier

@ everyone

Cupcakes

10/15/2012 2:13:10 PM

Mech610

In an attempt to escape the above bullshit from Dr. al-Zuhayli...

THIS THREAD IS NOW ABOUT PONIES AND PONY RELATED TOPICS.

ALL OTHER TOPICS ARE NOW BANNED.


10/15/2012 2:39:05 PM
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