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You know what else the founding fathers did? They wrote the First Amendment.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or
of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition
the Government for a redress of grievances.
10/16/2012 8:16:40 AM
10/16/2012 8:17:37 AM
"We need to remember What America "was."
"Are YOU that ONE?"
Speaking as a British
, left-wing, pro
-LGBT Atheist, give me just one good fucking reason why, as far as the rest of the world are concerned, about you & your Religious Reich's 'concerns'...:
Moral: Your country isn't the centre of the universe. Americentricism: it should be illegal.
And Reality doesn't conform to your
will. As per the Stonewall advert slogan: 'Some people are Gay. Get over it.
' LGBT preople. They exist. Always have, always will. Deal with it.
10/16/2012 8:22:26 AM
"Look no further than Hebrew Scripture" Oh please God don't open a textbook! Any kind of history book is off limits! And don't forget news that we don't say are ok are all driven by demonic spirits!
If you would, you'd have noticed that nations that have legalized same-sex marriage are just fine. No droughts, no diseases, no crime waves and with the exceptions of Spain and Portugal they all have booming economies.
10/16/2012 8:23:54 AM
Sodom and Gomorrah: Asteroid (Oh, and let's not forget, the righteous 'one' of the city thought that gang rape of his daughters was fine and dandy.)
Tribe of Benjamin: War from the Israelites
Pompeii: Volcanic ash
Nope. Hardly seeing anything about homosexuality aside from your delusional talking points. And you're so quick to say gays are mentally ill, heh heh, what a riot.
10/16/2012 8:44:32 AM
People are not suddenly going to turn gay because society is nicer to gay people. We're still going to have the same 8-10% of the populace who are gay.
10/16/2012 8:53:48 AM
Even if everyone was homosexual and we had no in-vitro fertilization technology they would just have straight sex for the sole purpose of procreation.
10/16/2012 8:59:47 AM
Simple: homosexual mental disorder, if promoted, would have destroyed America in a short few years, because there would be no new citizens!
Outside of a few crazies, no gay person is arguing for the entire world population to turn gay.
10/16/2012 10:11:33 AM
Abraham bargained with God for the city of Sodom (only) and got him to agree that if 10 (not five) righteous people were found in that one city only, the city would be spared. Sodom's injustice and mistreatment of the poor and of strangers, are much more strongly emphasised in jewish tradition than the homosexuality interpretation popular today, and are probably primary reasons for the destruction of the city. I'm ignoring the rest of you post because it's sheer lunacy, but if you're going to try to use the bible to back up your arguments, you should at least read it.
10/16/2012 10:12:10 AM
If you're walking and talking with an imaginary being, you have bigger problems than homosexuality. Get thee to a psychiatrist.
10/16/2012 11:06:52 AM
Clearly this person was brought up by the Texan or homeschooling systems of education.
Seriously, America was and is founded on a secular tradition. STOP TRYING TO FIT YOUR CHRISTIAN FASCISM INTO IT! I'm going to Meh this because it's just gibbering I hear so often. Why it's more fun to correct people's errors.
The Roman Empire, if we regard the Byzantine Half as not what they regarded themselves, was destroyed but increasing barbarian traits and instability of the realm. Christainity as a primary religion has no effect and was chosen because it might help stabilize the Empire. It failed to help, but didn't aggravate it's fall either.
IF we regard the Eastern Half as Roman, well, it was MUSLIMS that destroyed the Roman Empire... not Christianity. Quite directly by taking their lands.
10/16/2012 11:28:49 AM
It's more fun to turn 'the homos destroyed Rome' nonsense back on the fundies. It has more accuracy to back it up, even if it's not completely true.
I'm going to keep using it.
10/16/2012 11:59:52 AM
If this "God" of yours created the whole universe, in which we are but a mere speck, how can he be as petty and small minded as you?
Shouldn't this at least give you just a wee bit of cognitive dissonance?
Those countries that recognize gay marriage are still here, none of them have had fire and brimstone raining down on them yet. God seems awfully slow with the "holy wrath" bit.
Maybe "God" is not opposed to the Gays after all.
And in response to your last question:
No, I am not.
10/16/2012 12:13:24 PM
homosexual mental disorder, if promoted, would have destroyed America in a short few years, because there would be no new citizens!
Promoted? Do you think gay sex is so great that you're afraid we'll all become gay if it's advertised like car insurance or DirecTV?
10/16/2012 12:20:03 PM
@Blankspaceresponding to me
I do not enjoy the revision of history to fit anyone's whims. It's bad for them to do it, it's bad for you to do it.
It makes both sides look equally bad. Just, don't do it. It's also completely unnecessary.
Though one could say a bunch of excommunicated Catholics hastened the downfall of the Eastern Roman Empire. But being excommunicated basically means "You ain't a Christian, buddy boy."
10/16/2012 12:30:27 PM
"...so-called atheistic beliefs."
So, some them were bona fide, hard-core Christians, but the ones professing atheism were only those with "so-called atheistic beliefs?" Two sentences in and you've already shown yourself to be a self-important a&&hole.
"However, not a single one would admit to homosexual relatiohips. Why not?"
Because with the prejudices of the times they would have been persecuted. Try to keep up with the class, Pickle M.
"Remember, Abraham was promised No Destruction for Sodom-Gomorrah "IF" merely 5 righteous persons could be found in those five cities! That's just ONE, SINGLE person per city!
Are YOU that ONE?"
Nope. Cowtowing to your imaginary God is not on my agenda. When you can show your God is real and so petty that he is destroying cities because people there don't kiss his butt enough, then we can talk.
10/16/2012 12:55:27 PM
I'll bet that at least one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence was gay or bi. He probably had a few kids with a wife anyway, and any letters indicating gay love would have been destroyed.
10/16/2012 1:14:28 PM
Let's look at the facts.
1: Homosexuals constitute less than 10% of the total human population.
2: Through the use of artificial insemination and surrogate mothers, many same-sex couples are still able to contribute to our reproduction. In fact it does not appear that possessing non-hetero-normative orientation does not remove the biological imperative to reproduce.
3: Most childless couples are heterosexual.
4: Asexuals, the only people who legitimately have no physical desire to have sex, are an even smaller minority than homosexuals.
5: Massive religious institutions ruled by a small cabal of insecure men terrified of their own erections such as Islam and the Catholic Church have been far more effective and preventing humans from having sex.
6: There are 7 billion+ people on the planet. Now is the worst time to be concerned with going extinct due to waning birthrates.
7: The city of Pompeii is your only non-Biblical, or real, example and it only harms your point. What God wants to show those Romans what he thought of their sin by destroying one, single city in their whole history, then allowing them to continue to be the largest political and culture power in Europe for 400 more years and only destroying half of their empire after they converted to Christianity, by cultures such as the Huns and Goths who allowed homosexual behavior? Oh and that other half? They were destroyed a thousand years later by Muslims, after they were weakened by being ransacked by Christian crusaders after said Christian crusaders had completely abandoned the pre-text that the Crusaders were about Christianizing the Middle-East and were basically just roving bands of well-armed brigands.
10/16/2012 1:34:35 PM
PRAYER FOR THE AVOIDANCE OF DOOMS
O Mighty Lord we humbly repent our heinous sins of compassion and tolerance.
We beseech thee O Lord, show us thy blinding anger and flex thy most righteous sinewy limbs of Holy rending and let thy lashing tongue condemn the reasonable moderates to unending agonies.
Let us, O Mighty Lord of tantrums and manic seriousness, be suitably cleansed by thy scouring spittle flecks that we may rend the very homosexuals and save thy glittering cosmos.
10/16/2012 2:00:36 PM
Classic projection. This man is a closeted homosexual. He knows he'd be gay if it was "OK" so he thinks everyone would be gay if it was "OK". In the end, what we know of ourselves, we assume of others.
10/16/2012 2:29:04 PM
Note how Canada is doing great right now...
10/16/2012 2:30:13 PM
I walked and talked with the creator a couple of times. I found him to be surly, uncommunicative, and not much fun to be around.
10/16/2012 3:15:42 PM
So 2% of the population not having kids is going to destroy the nation?
You are SO dumb.
10/16/2012 4:21:45 PM
No, it was Abraham. But it was 10 and in the city of Sodom only.
The five cities probably comes from Genesis 10:19 "And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon as you go toward Gerar, as far as Gaza; then as you go toward Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboiim, as far as Lasha."
10/16/2012 4:25:34 PM
Complete destruction to America, huh?
Go ahead, set a date, coward, so we can all laugh at you as it goes past.
In Canada we've had legalized same-sex marriage now for over seven years without a single divine retribution. We've had lots of bitching from people like you but that's hardly comparable.
10/16/2012 5:59:49 PM
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