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I wonder how many unplanned pregnancies of minors occurred before the advent of "the pill" and Planned Parenthood? The word "few" comes to mind but, then, people respected their parents, parents instructed their kids about the birds and the bees, (because schools were only obligated to educate them; not sexualize and encourage lying to parents and, passing out condoms, telling them, "Go ahead, it's fun!") the Bible was still used for instruction in public schools and, things like Columbine didn't happen and, drugs, and guns on a school campus were virtually nonexistent.

Remove moral instruction and, teach kids that they are just animals with better brains than those in the wild and, well, they begin to act like those wild animals because, it doesn't matter any more what they do.

David Madison, OneNewsNow 58 Comments [10/17/2012 3:13:21 AM]
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jimboaw

This bastard was born to an unwed mother in 1945 and I was not her first or last. She went on to have seven more. I was given up for adoption.

10/17/2012 7:17:12 AM

He Who Doubts

This guy seriously needs to go kill himself. At the very least he could do everyone the favor of shutting the fuck up until he becomes more intelligent.

10/17/2012 7:33:56 AM

fishtank

As uninformed and willfully ignorant as can be expected.

Waste of space and danger to kids.

10/17/2012 7:34:25 AM

Sasha

Have you ever talked to a senior citizen? They could probably set you straight on life before the pill.

10/17/2012 7:59:51 AM

Philbert McAdamia

The word "few" comes to mind

The phrase "damn near everybody in the whole world" comes to my mind. At least I have one.

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@Sasha
Have you ever talked to a senior citizen? They could probably set you straight on life before the pill.

I'm one. As I remember...oh, oh...have I mentioned "remembering" yet?

10/17/2012 8:17:43 AM

David B.

"I wonder how many unplanned pregnancies of minors occurred before the advent of "the pill" and Planned Parenthood?"

In colonial America, children born out of wedlock were 'apprenticed' to local tradesmen while very young, and the bastard child and disgraced mother would often be sat in the town square and publicly taunted and humiliated.

Because nothing says "sanctity of life" better than forced child labor and public shaming.

(Source: "Child Welfare Services" by Alfred Kadushin (1974))

10/17/2012 8:46:43 AM

Papabear

Hey, David, over here. Here's another hole in the sand to bury your head in. Oh, yeah, I guess you can us your a&& for that.

10/17/2012 8:58:15 AM

Thinking Allowed


10/17/2012 9:07:26 AM

mattiedef

You know, i sometimes use the idea that the world is getting better and better as proof (to myself. Agnostic.) of a benevolent god (not the babble one). That atheists trend towards moralism based on do no harm.

And comments prove, once again, much like All of history... Things get better when you look fowards, only treating the past as a learning experience. Stop trying to create a mythic past. Its dumb.

10/17/2012 9:27:16 AM

Zagen30

Atheissimo: "America has been having school shootings with tedious regularity since a few years after its inception. All that's changed is that they have been getting slightly more numerous due to population change and deadlier due to advances in technology."

Don't forget the changes in media. You can see the coverage of an event as it's happening from almost anywhere in the country. Not to mention how major acts of violence bring in ratings and are therefore covered more aggressively, and how there's thousands of news sources nowadays.

10/17/2012 9:39:08 AM

nazani14

Living for a month in a non-religious, politically liberal household would be like living with a Thai hill tribe for these people.

It's so weird to know that as I go about my life there are people interacting with me who think I'm encouraging my Daughter to have sex just for fun and trying to undermine the fabric of US society.

10/17/2012 10:26:24 AM

Canuovea

Actually, at least during the early 1700s, Puritans encouraged out of wedlock sex.

Why?

Because if the woman got pregnant, she was fertile. Once she gave birth and named the father of the child, then there was a marriage.

Blows the mind, doesn't it?

10/17/2012 10:33:22 AM

Osiris

From my own experience and in every single person I've ever met who has accepted the scientific validity of evolution people either make no changes in how they treat their fellow man, or they start treating animals better instead of treating their fellow humans worse.

10/17/2012 10:47:47 AM

Serpensium

You need to update the prescription for your rose colored glasses.

10/17/2012 11:07:36 AM

Ebon

You're living in a fantasy world. Prior to the Victorian era, most of the working classes didn't bother marrying at all, they just shacked up together.

10/17/2012 11:38:01 AM

capello moderno

Dostojevskij: if there is no God, everything is permissable
Lacan: No, if there is a God everything is permissable. Even the most revolting and atrocious things seem permissible to those who do them for the glory of God.

DM here is with Dostojevskij, but I'll go with Lacan: as everyone knows you don't need religion to have morals, and lots of bad stuff has a tendency to happen in the name of the father.

10/17/2012 11:43:03 AM

Churchy LaFemme

As others have pointed out, the girl would just be sent to live elsewhere. Of course, there were an astonishing number of "premature" healthy babies born 7 months after a couple got married.

10/17/2012 12:38:31 PM

Reckoner

Even more Shit That Never Happened.

10/17/2012 1:47:55 PM

Old Viking

You have a better brain than an animal in the wild?

10/17/2012 1:52:46 PM

Robespierre

Teen precnancies peaked in 1957. They are still high in the US for rich-country standards, but falling.

You're welcome.

10/17/2012 2:22:01 PM

checkmate

the Bible was still used for instruction in public schools and, things like Columbine didn't happen

Oh, the good old days of morality and godliness:
















10/17/2012 2:42:59 PM

D Laurier

"I wonder how many unplanned pregnancies of minors occurred before the advent of "the pill" and Planned Parenthood?"
About the same as after.
Lots of teen girls had to visit an aunt for a few months, or they went to a back ally surgeon for an illegal abortion. Plus the high rate of shotgun weddings, where the father of the bride was literaly pointing a shotgun at the boy who knocked up his daughter.
Most new brides were visibly pregnant for the wedding.
"The word "few" comes to mind"
Only because you desperately want to imagine it as such.
The historical record is full of death certificates for teenaged girls who died of "Misadventure while cleaning father's shotgun". As well as those girls who died of complications from botched abortions.

The rest of your post is just ignorant longing for a 1950s that never was.
"Happy Days" is not a documentary, and "Leave it to Beaver" is not an accurate portrayal either.

10/17/2012 2:45:40 PM

Blarghonius

Back in my day, kids worked in coal mines and corporations really ruled the country. Now those were the days.

10/17/2012 2:48:31 PM

tracer

David Madison. Dude.

The Andy Griffith Show is not an accurate documentary of past American life.

10/17/2012 3:43:47 PM

CharlieE

"I wonder how many unplanned pregnancies of minors occurred before the advent of "the pill" and Planned Parenthood?"

Millions. Thanks for asking.

10/17/2012 6:19:49 PM
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