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Immoral: Prove it. And the bible doesn't count, because not everyone follows it and the society you live in certainly doesn't either.
Unnatural: Prove it. And even if it were, what then? Assuming that just because something is natural is good or moral is a fallacy. Ergo, if something is unnatural it does not mean it is immoral.
Unhealthy: Prove it. There is a greater argument for this, admittedly. Anal sex can cause tissue damage, for instance. Though even then, Anal sex does not equate to homosexuality... though they can go hand in hand. As for HIV... pretty much any form of sex can spread HIV.
10/21/2012 12:38:59 PM
Darn it, double post.
10/21/2012 12:39:49 PM
You sure obsess a lot about what goes on between other people's legs. It makes me suspicious about what goes on between your ears.
10/21/2012 12:40:56 PM
"the SPLC goes on to say that if anyone tells the truth about homosexual behavior, the school must “denounce the hateful act,” and adds that the “denunciation of the incident should be delivered to students and staff, parents and caregivers, and the wider community. Post it on the school website, and publish it in the school newspaper or newsletter. Send it out to the media."
"In other words, launch an ethic-cleansing program against any and all students of conservative moral principle and be sure to alert the media while you’re at it, so conservative students can be humiliated before their entire communities. Sounds like sure enough bullying to me."
Arbeit Macht Frei, baby!
Someone once had an 'opinion' exactly like yours. A right-wing Conservative just like you too. Just ask Ernst Röhm. And then the hundreds of thousands just like him, who went to the concentration camps. The latter in particular, I'm sure theres still some survivors - the Homosexuell - who'll have something to say, re. you & your ilk being 'bullied', as in Equal Rights legislation which denies you & your ilk the right to even say what you once did with impunity.
One word: Thoughtcrime*.
*- And now it's your turn to say - to said Survivors - why those who so much as think in a homophobic way, why those who do should have the right to, if it perpetuates that homophobic way of thinking, and why anti-discriminatory laws shouldn't be allowed.
You know who you are.
10/21/2012 12:59:33 PM
unnatural... like wearing clothes and living in houses?
unhealthy... like smoking and soda drinking?
Turns out, nope on both counts. Humans do plenty of unnatural and unhealthy things, being part of the spectrum is neither.
As for morals, well now that is a religious conversation. My particular religion (none) says that homosexuality is not immoral and being protected by Freedom of Religion, schools need to stay neutral on moral issues. As for humiliating anyone, I'm in favor of anti-bully campaigns and against schools getting overly involved with the media.
10/21/2012 1:26:11 PM
He doesn't have a clue what the word "truth" means either
10/21/2012 1:29:59 PM
Was he your cellmate you're desperately trying to forget?
10/21/2012 1:33:01 PM
Why should conservative students feel "humiliated before their entire communities"? If they were doing something that everyone admired, they'd be congratulated.
10/21/2012 1:46:45 PM
Ethic cleansing? Oh, I thought he said ETHNIC CLEANSING and I'm like.
"Being Publicly humiliated=/=being fucking murdered."
Essentially, he's saying schools are removing the Ethics of its students... by teaching them to be less bigotry?
10/21/2012 1:50:34 PM
Cleanse "conservative moral principles" (read bigotry) from the Earth? That's exactly what we're trying to do.
10/21/2012 2:00:25 PM
If conservatives are so proud of their "principles", why would publicity about putting their "principles" into action "humiliate" them?
Were I outed as an atheist, I'd keep calm and carry on. My primary worry would be the random yahoos who might harass me, vandalize my place of residence (which technically I don't own) or physically assault me ... or, given that I live in the Bible Belt, the potential employers, law enforcement officials, and other people with power who could make my life miserable. (Illegally, of course, but when so many self-professed conservative Christians hold office around here, how far will I have to reach for actual justice?)
Maybe I'm paranoid, but being laughed at would be the least of my worries.
10/21/2012 2:23:06 PM
He Who Doubts
There are several commenters on this thread who have mistakenly read "ethic" as 'ethnic'. I believe Fischer was trying to imply a "cleansing of ethical ideas."
10/21/2012 2:57:41 PM
SpukiKitty"BIG GAY" RETURNS!
"Howdy! Gimmie A Big GAY Hug!"
Also, what hasn't been said about Fisch-face & his brain-dead rhetoric, before?
"...a BIG GAY BEAR HUG! C'mere, Fischy Fishcy Fischy!"
Bryan Fischer - "AAAUUGH! Noooooooooooooooo!"
Go get 'im, Big Gay!
10/21/2012 3:19:25 PM
10/21/2012 3:43:12 PM
Fundies Make Me Sick
Humiliation is not the same as ethnic cleansing and the fact that you conflate the two is pathetic.
10/21/2012 3:48:21 PM
You need a "WHY" and/or a "HOW" to go with your "WHAT".
"Because I don't like it." doesn't count as either.
10/21/2012 3:51:21 PM
Geez, Bryan get a hobby. You are mind-numbingly predictable.
10/21/2012 4:47:51 PM
Yes, the pun in the OP's rant, 'ethic cleansing', is probably the brightest idea ever to enter his head. The fallacy still runs foul as what Bryan suggests is eerily close to actual ethnic cleansing, unlike exposing bigotry.
10/21/2012 4:57:07 PM
Ooh, that was funny! Can I try one?
"Big Gay has so thouroughly infiltrated the Churches that there isn't a single heterosexual evangelist in the world!"
10/21/2012 6:30:58 PM
Guys I'm pretty sure "ethic-cleansing" was a pun. As in, instead of actual ethnic cleansing (read: genocide), we liberals are engaging in the slaughter of conservative ethics. I actually chuckled, but then I'm a sucker for puns.
I love how much time he spends assuming that homosexuality is immoral, and how little time he spends actually proving it. (None. To be fair, you can't prove something that's not true.)
10/21/2012 10:13:12 PM
"Simply telling the truth about homosexual behavior - that it is immoral, unnatural, and unhealthy"
Immoral: the Greeks and Romans of old, not to mention all those more recent, did not seem to mind.
Unnatural: except for all those species where homosexuality occurs. So, nature is unnatural?
Unhealthy: how many diseases were transmitted all along history by heterosexual intercourse? I would say the chances are about equivalent.
10/21/2012 10:13:27 PM
"Simply putting old and vile lies about homosexual behavior outrages decent, empathic people and is regarded as a grave insult. Such malicious lies therefore must not be tolerated." Fixed.
If you don't want to be called out for spouting hateful anti-gay propaganda, then don't spout hateful anti-gay propaganda. Is it humiliating to be shown to harbor "conservative moral principles"? If they constitute such a moral high-ground, shouldn't they be proud, not humiliated?
10/21/2012 10:19:00 PM
"Simply telling the truth about homosexual behavior - that it is immoral, unnatural, and unhealthy - outrages the bullying bigots of Big Gay and is regarded by them as a grave insult. Such truth-telling therefore must not be tolerated. "
We do not tolerate your lies. We will alert the media so you can be humiliated before the entire community until you are too afraid to bully anyone ever again.
10/22/2012 6:45:23 AM
This will never cease to make me giggle...
"if anyone tells the truth about homosexual behavior, the school must “denounce the hateful act,”"
Not much unlike your denouncing the "sinful act" of homosexuality, amirite?
"conservative students can be humiliated before their entire communities"
Because they're bigoted and hateful. What goes around comes around, and all that.
You are nothing more than a shitstain on humanity, Bryan. Stay under your rock. kthxbye.
10/22/2012 9:07:31 AM
To be fair, I misread "ethic" as "ethnic," and I posted this. There's the off chance it's a typo, but I doubt it. The similarity to "ethnic cleansing" still makes it rather charged.
10/22/2012 10:17:09 AM
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