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You missed the Egyptian Pharaohs use of cocaine. What we don't know exceeds what we do know by a huge amount.
I think the big question is "what caused our racial amnesia?" Whatever it was, it had to have been something truly worldwide and devastating in scope.

[Perhaps a flood?]

If you are familiar with the theories of Immanuel Veilkovsky he wrote that the biblical great flood happened in roughly 750BCE, if his theory is correct quite possibly the flood.
So far everything he wrote back in the 1950's has been substantiated. It lends great credence to the biblical account.

historyguy48, WND 34 Comments [10/24/2012 3:36:05 AM]
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#1462067
rallymodeller

wha? Cocaine, native to South America and unknown in Africa? And the same Veilkovsky who based his hypotheses on poor guesses?

Man, you really need to get out and get some fresh air.

10/24/2012 4:09:07 AM
#1462074
Mikgof

"So far everything he wrote back in the 1950's has been substantiated. It lends great credence to the biblical account."



Veliokovsky was refuted decades ago. I didn't realise that even among the crazies his stuff was still believed.

10/24/2012 4:18:56 AM
#1462080
ScrappyB

I remember seeing a documentary on researchers discovering traces of cocaine in Egyptian mummies. I think the rational explination was that it was either another plant species that was now extinct, or possibly fakes or contaminates from mishandling.

http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~legneref/ethnic/mummy.htm

10/24/2012 4:27:28 AM
#1462092
Robespierre

750 BC is 3 years after the foundation of Rome and centuries after civilization had recovered from the collapse in 1500-1000 BC. You'd think that historians would have noticed.

10/24/2012 4:46:38 AM
#1462095
Tempus

WND's comment section is a glorious cavalcade of high-octane stupid.

10/24/2012 4:50:31 AM
#1462096
Quantum Mechanic

lol

10/24/2012 4:53:45 AM
#1462102
Filin De Blanc

Poe. Not even World Nut Daily readers are dumb enough to believe that everyone was killed in freaking 750BC.

10/24/2012 5:05:28 AM
#1462117
Doubting Thomas

It lends great credence to the biblical account.

No it doesn't. Some guy wrote a theory based on the bible story, so it is evidence which supports the bible story? Can you say circular reasoning?

The major problems with the global flood idea is that there is no evidence in the geological strata, and civilizations which existed prior to the time of the supposed flood apparently were never bothered by it nor have any record of it.

10/24/2012 5:33:00 AM
#1462125
John_in_Oz

Your choice of Username will haunt me forever.

10/24/2012 5:45:40 AM
#1462131
Mister Spak

" if his theory is correct "

But it's not so you fail.

10/24/2012 5:50:20 AM
#1462155
Mattiedef

While it's probably likely there was a 'great flood' in the mesopotamia region of that time and thus why it shows up in mythologies of Sumerians and Jews (Along with one or two more, but fail at remembering who), it would have been wayyyyy before 750 since Sumerian were gone by that time. Why would it be in their myths?

I dunno much about this Immanuel guy I'll admit, but sounds like he's full of shit.

10/24/2012 6:33:05 AM
#1462159
Mister Spak

Mattidef:

The Jews got their flood myth from the Babylonians, who got it from the Akkadians, who got it from the Sumerians.


10/24/2012 6:39:24 AM
#1462172
dionysus

7-fucking-50 BCE?! You mean the flood happened during the rise of Greece and Rome? Funny how a flooded planet not only didn't disrupt their growth at all, it kept all documents, art and culture completely intact. The Chinese and Egyptians didn't seem to mind it either.

10/24/2012 7:08:37 AM
#1462175


Frostythesnowman

Since the Chinese had writing, law, architecture, domesticated animals and music in 750BCE, are we to assume that they also had submarines?

10/24/2012 7:17:20 AM
#1462177
Horsefeathers

"If you are familiar with the theories of Immanuel Veilkovsky he wrote that the biblical great flood happened in roughly 750BCE, if his theory is correct quite possibly the flood. So far everything he wrote back in the 1950's has been substantiated."

Velikovsky was a lunatic and nothing he wrote about was even remotely plausible.

"It lends great credence to the biblical account."

No, it doesn't.

@rallymodeller: There are, indeed, several ancient Egyptian mummies that show traces of cocaine in their hair which indicates long-term use of the substance. I believe either the Discovery Channel or the National Geographic Channel did a special on them a couple of years ago. So far as I know, it's still inconclusive as to how the Egyptians actually got the cocaine.

10/24/2012 7:28:14 AM
#1462183
Philbert McAdamia

What we don't know exceeds what we do know by a huge amount.

Amen, brother, you said a mouthfull, there.

10/24/2012 8:07:43 AM
#1462190
Thinking Allowed

You missed the Egyptian Pharaohs use of cocaine.

There is no conclusive evidence that the ancient Egyptians used cocaine. I won't even bother with the rest of the post.

10/24/2012 8:20:59 AM
#1462203
anevilmeme

I thought YEC fundies said the flood happened 2400 BCE?

10/24/2012 9:10:54 AM
#1462230
Papabear

"If you are familiar with the theories of Immanuel Veilkovsky..."

Then you know he was an ignorant, self-important crank.

"So far everything he wrote back in the 1950's has been substantiated."

I believe he was the one who promoted the idea that Venus was puked out of Jupiter. Uh, not substantiated, HG48.

10/24/2012 10:35:01 AM
#1462235
Osiris

What "racial amnesia"? Egypt has a completely unabridged, continuous history that happens right in the middle of when you believed everyone in the world except for one family was killed off. Yet somehow Egypt, China, Mesopotamia, India, and even Australian aborigines maintain uninterrupted historical records that include not even a footnote that says "And here is were everyone died. But we got better next year."

10/24/2012 10:39:52 AM
#1462242
farpadokly

Velikovsky is wrong. The Bible flood myth is obviously mythological, lots of civilizations in the region have a flood myth. Maybe it was based on some local relatively wide-scale flooding in Mesopotamia. Or maybe it's purely symbolic. Probably a combination of the two.
And Egyptian Pharaohs didn't use cocaine. Not true.
@Horsefeathers: But it's misleading to call it "cocaine" because folk will picture the white powder which we know today, which wasn't synthesised until the nineteenth century.

10/24/2012 11:13:36 AM
#1462248
freako104

Who fails more? The failure or the man who follows him?

10/24/2012 11:39:59 AM
#1462267
John

So far everything he [Velikovsky] wrote back in the 1950's has been substantiated.

The only thing that was sort of substantiated was the predicted higher than expected temperature of Venus. And although Velikovsky's prediction was closer than what was known at the time, he was far from right either. Actually, Carl Sagan wrote a book summarizing the arguments against almost all of Velikovsky's nonsense. A Bible scholar once said that Velikovsky's Bible stuff was nonsense, but he was impressed with the science, to which a scientist replied that he had rather the opposite opinion.

10/24/2012 12:47:36 PM
#1462275
Ebon

So far everything he wrote back in the 1950's has been substantiated.

Lying for Jesus again.

10/24/2012 12:56:25 PM
#1462324
Old Viking

The great flood that everyone ignored? That one?

10/24/2012 2:51:02 PM
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