It is true that latex condoms, when used consistently and correctly, reduce the risk of transmission of STDs such as gonorrhea. However very few people actually do use them consistently and correctly, for many reasons, between the discomfort of condom usage to the lack of sobriety of people having sex. Surveys indicate that most sexually active unmarried Americans seldom use condoms at all. During fellatio it seems to be unheard of.
This should give a little bit of pause to potential atheists out there who are looking forward to a life of sexual freedom. They could well be in for a life of permanent misery. And it helps us to appreciate the great wisdom of the Torah's emphasis on chastity.
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So if I'm an atheist I can't also be chaste? What exactly have the two got to do with each other? And even if I do have sex, what's to say I can't simply take the time to have safe sex right? Are you saying theists are somehow better at it?
This is just a jumble of non sequiturs.
"lack of sobriety"
I have never had sex drunk.
"It is true that latex condoms, when used consistently and correctly, reduce the risk of transmission of STDs such as gonorrhea"
Well, he started out well and then...
"jewish philosopher"
Oh, this guy.
Judging from this and other posts, you seem unusually preoccupied about sex.
Why don't you just get laid already? You'll feel better.
what about young christian, jewish or muslim men who look forward to a few years of casual sex before marriage ?
atheists do not neccessarily indulge in risky behavior. WHo was it that got caught having buttsexxx(tm) with his boyfriend gay drugdealer ? Hint: leader of a christian congregation and had a song written about him.
"This should give a little bit of pause to potential atheists out there who are looking forward to a life of sexual freedom."
I was about to click "meh" until I saw this.
/atheist
//no relationships or sexual partners
///not even a one-night stand
////I like it that way.
ACCORDING TO THIS TURKEY & OTHER FUNDIES: Apparently anyone who isn't a deranged religious zealot is an atheist, even if they are not athiests.
I think flagrant sexuality is the bees knees....I had no idea I didn't believe in a Higher Power.
I'm allergic to latex, any suggestions? No I didn't think so, because you and 'great wisdom' are strangers to each other.
I have enjoyed a life of sexual freedom, have never contracted an STD, am now faithfully married and realised long ago what a pile of useless nonsense the Torah was.
no mention of the fact that abstinence-only education is responsible for the misuse of condoms, or their being forgone completely, in many situations? I wonder why?
This makes no sense, even for jp. He seems to think that statistics can be used as an accurate predictor of the experiences of any given individual . This is not how statistics work, they describe the average , with few individuals having an identical experience. Furthermore, knowing such statistics may alter your approach (just as jp is hoping), rendering them invalid. For example, if I am told the failure rate of condoms is 1%, I may be less inclined to use them. If I know 99% of such failures are caused by the user's unfamiliarity or basic mistakes, I would make sure I know how to use them and worry no longer.
Also, the "sex with condoms sucks" thing often comes from people with shitty sex lives: celibate priests and other religious whackadoos who don't believe in sex for enjoyment anyway. Your sex always sucks, so don't judge mine! I at least know this:
sex with a condom > no sex at all.
atheist does not automatically mean frequent sex with multiple partners
Took care of the baby making potential, only sleep with my husband, no condoms. If I get anything, I'm kicking his ass.
Sexual freedom does not mean promiscuity, and either way, it has nothing to do with atheism.
Seriously, if you're going to preach against something, at least know what the crap it is you're talking about.
What does atheism have to do with anything else? Only atheists have extra-marital sex, and all atheist do have extra-mariatl sex, or what? No Jew has ever had a shot-gun marriage, or contracted a venerial disease, right?
So, because some people may not want to use condoms, instead of encouraging them to do so you'd rather try to tell them not to have sex at all? Good luck with that, Christians have been failing at controlling everyone's sex lives for 2000 years.
Every time I see Jewish Philosopher's name, I automatically think of the unemployment office scene in "History of the World, Part I."
"Occupation?"
"Stand up philosopher."
"Oh, a BULLSHIT artist! Did you bullshit this week?"
"No."
"Did you try to bullshit this week?"
"Yes."
"It is true that latex condoms, when used consistently and correctly, reduce the risk of transmission of STDs such as gonorrhea."
He accepted a reality that usually sets fundies off in a hysterical tantrum of denial.
This guy is a bottomless well of stupidity.
Maybe one day he'll get it right. And how come he doesn't mention the confirmed atheists? I am not a potential atheist-I AM an atheist & I can assure you JP, that your stupid little torah is good for nothing but toilet paper.
And after this Frankenstorm hits us-I may need it.
Atheists dont become atheists for "a life of sexual freedom". We become atheists because we figure out that there are no gods.
When I was a christian, and subsequently a pagan, I was a total slut. As an atheist I have actualy slowed down.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FSTDT
'Non Indicative Name: Many quotes have come from a man calling himself jewish philosopher, who in reality is neither Jewish * (he claims to be a convert but never went through any formal initiation into Judaism) nor a philosopher. '
Therefore, disregard what he says, he sucks cocks. >:D
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Gotcha (but I was merely using the meme, anyway). In that case, re. jewish FAILosopher...:
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>:D X3
@whatever
People who use condoms during fellatio are certainly in their right minds. Condoms don't just prevent spread of STDs during PIV sex. That said, they're more useful in that capacity if you're actually promiscuous, as jewish philosopher assumes atheists are.
Chastity works. You could also, you know, just use a fucking condom.
Religion or no, stupidity wins out once again.
"Surveys indicate that most sexually active unmarried Americans seldom use condoms at all."
Citation? Or did you just walk up to random strangers and ask, "Do you use condoms?"
"During fellatio it seems to be unheard of."
That's why you can buy flavored condoms?
I also love how, despite claiming to be the paragon of chastity, JP is well aware that people don't always use condoms during oral sex. Methinks our favorite Semitic fundie has been hitting t3h pr0n sites.
A life of sexual freedom? Oh right, because since I became a full on atheist I have been ravished by more beautiful women than James Bond.
Actually, I have not had sexual relations with another woman since I met my wife a decade ago, but let's not spoil jewish phailosopher's little fantasies, shall we?
If someone is too drunk to remember to use a condom, they're hardly likely to be sober enough to abstain from sex; so it's hard to see how preaching chastity is going to help.
Surveys indicate that most sexually active unmarried Americans seldom use condoms at all.
Probably true. That's why the US has four to ten times the teen pregnancy rates of European countries. Not because the US is a bunch of sluts and Europeans are chaste, but because Europeans are more likely to be taught to use proper birth control instead of the ridiculous "abstinence-only" crap pushed by US politicians and prudes like you.
Let's skip the fact you call people stupid but are you suggesting, in a very subtle way, not to use a computer or, Heaven forbids, INTERNET for the same reasons you mentioned above?.Just a thought.
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"I also love how, despite claiming to be the paragon of chastity, JP is well aware that people don't always use condoms during oral sex. Methinks our favorite Semitic fundie has been hitting t3h pr0n sites."
I was unaware that anyone used condoms for oral sex. It seems completely self-defeating, like kissing through a plastic bag. I can understand during vaginal sex you don't want to get your partner pregnant, but unless you have some kind of transmittable disease, there really is no need to use a condom for oral sex. I've had oral stimulation from all five of my previous sex partners, and none of them even suggested that a condom would be desirable for said act. If anyone did, I would think they were irrationally afraid of sexual contact.
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