Quote# 90356

It's far worse than the article indicates. Secular humanism is only a tactic, not the goal. The progressive left is the world's biggest Gnostic cult. Scientism is their philosopher's stone; the "Lost Word" seeking to transform lead into gold, a metaphor of turning humanity into gods (or Transhumans) and immanentizing the Eschaton (we are the ones we've been waiting for..."fundamental transformation"). Science is magic and miracle in this system. Witness the "transhumanists" and the quest for immortality. The calls for a "scientific dictatorship" from HG Wells to Richard Dawkins.

When "citizen of the world" Barack Obama told an eager Berlin audience that he saluted the "divine spark within us all" he was simply reiterating the Gnostic cosmogony spoken against by St. Paul and St. John in the New Testament.

In this worldview, it is compassionate to abort babies, since material existence is the true evil and who would wish to punish women with babies, or punish babies with existence. Pessimism is the surest sign of Gnosticism. This world is not a good world corrupted in the fall of man, you see. This world is evil because it's materiality is itself "separation from the Divine Spirit". Material wealth is the sign of a necessary evil (necessary for the Gnostic gospel to proceed in all realms of influence); that, unless used to spread the ancient anti-philosophy of the Luciferians, must be countered, confiscated and defeated.

The family, faithful Churches, true philosophy and patriotism are all impediments and delusions in this system: delusions that keep the ignorant (non-Gnostics) from embracing their truest selves, which is as an emanation of the "collective soul". Individualism is evil because it hides the "true nature of reality" (we are One) in selfishness. Therefore, individual salvation does not and can not exist. Recall Mr. Obama's assertion that his individual salvation was dependent not upon himself or his "god" but upon collective salvation. This is the root of the progressive faith that government must solve all problems...the "collective will" must solve all problems.

The secularist pose is just that, a pose. The goal is Luciferianism, complete with rituals, sacrifices and a new age (ancient) hodgepodge of mythos that all, metaphorically and symbolically, tell the same fundamental story: "ye shall be as gods."

Witness the ease with which the left literally idolizes their leaders, from the cult of Rousseau, Napolean; Lenin; Stalin; Mussolini; Hitler; through the "self-actualization" cults of Astarte in the 20's to Guyana, the Family, the Process Church, the Manson cult and Heaven's Gate; to the faux-Greek "Throne of Pergamum" complete with rays-of-the-sun emanation/iconography for the One, Barack Obama. Even the pop versions today and their admiring press calls them "rock gods" and "Divas."

We're in big, big trouble folks. This isn't secularism.

Chestertonian, American Thinker 60 Comments [10/27/2012 3:10:06 AM]
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The Watcher

That's some weapons-grade lunacy right there.

10/27/2012 3:21:24 AM

Often Partisan

Rousseau? i think this is the first time i've heard a fundie have a dig at Rousseau! funnily enough your average fundie would probably appreciate Rousseau's views on women...

this guy is about as nutso as savagesusie...

10/27/2012 3:26:22 AM

Filin De Blanc

Hitler promoted militaristic nationalism, was anti-abortion, anti-evolution, anti-gay, anti-ethnic minorities, pro-execution, etc. Which of those are left-wing positions?

10/27/2012 3:30:54 AM


Oh crap. Guys, they're onto us.

10/27/2012 3:58:55 AM


This quote deserves some sort of award. Anyone who can link Gnostics, transhumanism, alchemy, satanism, Rousseau, HG Wells and the Manson Family is in the same rarified level of crazy as Time Cube and David Icke.

10/27/2012 4:06:12 AM


We're in big trouble, American Stinker. This isn't sanity.

10/27/2012 4:23:16 AM


Is this really what passes for "thinking" in the US?
Is the sign;
"Abandon all hope those who enter here." displayed at all ports and airports?

I also hope the the username doesn't refer to G.K.

10/27/2012 4:55:38 AM


Oh wow. Conflating LaVeyan Satanism with Luciferianism. I mean, this is common, but its rare that people use the actual word 'Luciferianism' instead of 'Satanism.' Bravo, OP: you saw a word and didn't do your research. Bravo.

10/27/2012 5:05:46 AM


The whole "All-non Christians are really just Satanists in disguise for PR reasons" meme has been around for a very long time. Still batshit insane, but old.

10/27/2012 5:12:20 AM

Mr. Bigglesworth

Just when I thought fundies couldn't get any more crazy...

10/27/2012 5:26:19 AM


Oh shut the fuck up.

You name a dozen things and don't understand even one.

Be afraid. The world is complicated! Oh dear!

10/27/2012 5:32:19 AM

Felix Wilde

The Christian Right is more supportive of individualism than the progressive left? I must have missed the meeting where the rights to sexual freedom, education, free thought and speech, freedom of religion and self-ownership were declared anti-individualist. Perhaps those libertarians are anti-liberty and those socialists are anti-equality too?

Secularism wouldn't be a great tactic to get people to adopt Gnosticism. Can you figure out why, or are you too confused by people who disagree with you also disagreeing with each other? You'll run out of false dichotomies if you keep applying them to everything.

The left also tend to oppose fascists, not idolise them. Just FYI. Antifa!

10/27/2012 5:36:36 AM


Dude, I actually AM a gnostic, and even I think this is bullshit.

10/27/2012 5:45:06 AM

How exactly does science lead to ritual sacrifices? We've hit new heights here. "The Bible says its all against the judeo-christian god so it's all the same and evil!"

And Hitler? What? The only people who adore Hitler anymore are the far right. Oh that's right, people like you.

And y'know, this socialist hates Stalin as much as the next guy.

10/27/2012 5:48:29 AM

Leighton Buzzard

Let's add Gnostic to the list of words you don't know the meaning of.

10/27/2012 6:23:02 AM

Doubting Thomas

tl;dr, but what I did read I thought that you are a fucking idiot. Reading about how the left loves Hitler confirmed it.

10/27/2012 7:30:20 AM


G.K. Chesterton is rolling in his grave.

10/27/2012 7:57:36 AM


Um, H. G. Wells is... was a very big believer. Like War of the Worlds literally ended with God using diseases to wipe out the Martians. When I saw the 50s movie as the ending, as a believer at the time, I was appalled. That is so heavy handed and an insane violation of the "Humans have Free Will" clause that it made no fucking sense to me.

The rest of it seems like conflating and putting together random things. Also, Hitler was a religious fascist. Guess what YOU are?

10/27/2012 8:12:31 AM


A mountain of word salad cannot hide that this is yet another fundie who lumps Hitler and Mussolini into the same end of the spectrum as Lenin and Stalin. They just don't get the fact that not all dictators are left wing "commies", just as they cannot comprehend that not all dictators are atheists.

That, of course, is simply because fundies are too stupid to tell the difference between up and down, or between night and day, however grandiose the language in which they deliver their moronic messages.

10/27/2012 8:20:43 AM


Speaking of a hodgepodge of mythos...

This guy drop more names in an incoherent babble than the Golden Bough.

10/27/2012 8:29:06 AM


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10/27/2012 8:47:47 AM


Okay, guys, the jig is up. We might as well just put on our black hoods and start sacrificing cats to our pharaoh.

Still, it was a good run while it lasted. I hope to see you all at our next mass-orgy, re-invigorated by no longer having to worry about the charade.

10/27/2012 9:03:39 AM


How vain must you be to look at someone who disagrees wi you and go, "They must just be doing it to fuck with me?"

10/27/2012 9:08:56 AM


Rousseau, Stalin, and Hitler.

Did you just pull names out of a hat?

Also, why are most of the names broken up with semicolons?

10/27/2012 10:08:06 AM

Mister Spak

"Science is magic and miracle in this system."

You used a magic computer to post your drivel in the magic internet created by this system.

What has your giant magic man accomplished?

10/27/2012 10:08:51 AM

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