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Harris not only forgets that his argument cuts both ways, but also fails to see how logic clearly dictates that the correct solution to the Extinction Equation would be to put an end to science rather than religion. The five major religions, Hinduism, Chinese folk religion, Buddhism, Christianity, and Islam have collectively been around 33 times longer than modern science without ever once threatening the species, whereas in a mere 350 years, science has managed to produce multiple threats to continued human existence.

So the collected religions have been around for a combined 11 600 years and have not managed to even threaten the eradication of mankind, whereas science, as we know it, has been around for a mere 350 years, and since the 6th and 7th August, 1945, the world has been under the constant threat of annihilation.


Tyronehster, News24 40 Comments [11/28/2012 1:45:27 PM]
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Mayhem

Science has always been around, from the time when Neanderthals used birch sap to create glue, to the modern age. The thing is that science has developed and advanced over the centuries, while religions have been stuck in the same train of thought since their beginnings. Science is a river, flowing along, clean and clear. Religion is a stagnant pool, fetid and full of parasites.

11/28/2012 2:01:10 PM

Apatheist

Alright, but I've never seen Religion develop a way to create the kinds of power we use on a daily basis. Science works motherfucker.

11/28/2012 2:04:59 PM

Sheridan

Only 350 years eh...

Yes science has given us the means to kill millions in an instant, but religion has no right to criticize considering all the blood it has spilled over the millennia.

11/28/2012 2:26:55 PM

myheadhurts

okay

you give up your computer first

11/28/2012 2:27:11 PM

Old Viking

All those religions ... all those years ... and they've been a drag on human progress the whole time.

11/28/2012 2:27:28 PM



Yup, Christianity says , dont worry about the fact that you are poor and starving, be happy because God will reward you in heaven, and wheres your tithe ?

Science says , heres a way of making fertilizer to help feed the worlds people, and tv to entertain many of them.

It took longer than 1945 to develop atomic weapons and a delivery system.
It took air travel to make a world wide epidemic possible.

So dump your car, and get trains and planes banned. Go back to horse and wagons with 10-20 miles a day travel.


11/28/2012 2:30:16 PM

Blarghonius

Now try comparing the good both have done.

11/28/2012 2:42:38 PM

anevilmeme

After reading it twice I'm calling Poe on the one.

11/28/2012 3:00:58 PM

Reynardine

In fact, the Inquisition, by killing most of the women in several countries, as well as anyone with actual knowledge, and slaughtering the rat-hunting cats with them, caused the population to implode. That's just *one* instance.

11/28/2012 3:12:19 PM

Mister Spak

"The five major religions, Hinduism, Chinese folk religion, Buddhism, Christianity, and Islam have collectively been around 33 times longer than modern science without ever once threatening the species, whereas in a mere 350 years, science has managed to produce multiple threats to continued human existence. "

Behold the power of science compared to your(and others) superstitious nonsense.

11/28/2012 3:29:57 PM

JSS

[So the collected religions have been around for a combined 11 600 years and have not managed to even threaten the eradication of mankind]







[size=14]What was that?[/size]


[whereas science, as we know it, has been around for a mere 350 years, and since the 6th and 7th August, 1945, the world has been under the constant threat of annihilation.]

So tell me, how's your life been dealing with polio and smallpox?

11/28/2012 3:37:38 PM

Doubting Thomas

It was science which extended the average human lifespan from 30 to 80, not religion.

11/28/2012 3:47:12 PM

Mech610

Is the Chinese folk religion really considered one of the 'five major religions'?

11/28/2012 4:27:06 PM

Wehpudicabok

Science produces tools. It's only stupid humans who turn those tools into weapons. If they didn't do that there would be no threat at all.

By contrast, religion has produced no global weapons, because religion produces no tools at all.

I agree that religion is no real threat to humanity, though. Certain fundamentalists are, but not any one religion or all religions.

11/28/2012 5:18:55 PM

Papabear

The extinction equation doesn't apply to human thought, nor lack of thought. But then, your thoughts seem to have been extinct for some time.

11/28/2012 5:19:31 PM

Frank

God drowned the entire population of the planet except for 6 people. That is considerably closer to the destruction of the human race than "modern science" has ever come.

11/28/2012 6:31:40 PM

New Face of Rev

Er... Technically TECHNOLOGY killed people, now that may come about as the result of science but science never directly killed anyone.

11/28/2012 6:50:59 PM

LAchlan

6th and 9th.

11/28/2012 7:00:48 PM



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I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE ACTUALLY TYPED ALL THAT ON A BLOODY COMPUTER!
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11/28/2012 7:32:27 PM

gracefullyclumsy

@ Mech610

No, it really isn't. Chinese folk religion isn't just one belief. It's like trying to say that Islam, Christianity, and Judaism is the same thing because there's only one male deity involved. Tyronehster might have thought Jewish=communist=China (yes, I know that makes no sense, but neither does he), and even that might be giving him too much credit.

11/28/2012 8:17:36 PM

Sharon Young

Science is not evil, nor are people. The battle is over control: who holds onto technology, who defines what is done in the name of God. It's a matter of responsibility, and ending science and / or religion will do no good.

11/28/2012 9:58:58 PM

Raised by Horses

Bill, you can take this one for me.

11/28/2012 10:25:39 PM

Journeyer

So what about viruses then? Arguably they pose a much larger threat to the continuation of human civilization than even nuclear war. Who, in your mind, created the viruses?

11/29/2012 1:08:03 AM

Frostythesnowman

The application of scientific research can provide the means of mass killing. Religion us usually the reason for it.

11/29/2012 2:10:13 AM

farpadokly

But that isn't the fault of "science", which is just a method for finding out facts about the world. It's the fault of misuse of the technology resulting from scientfic achievements.
Why is this technology and scientific knowledge misused? Channelled into weaponry or used for personal enrichment? For economic or political reasons. We have to place the blame, then, squarely on economic and political systems.
And it is a fact that these economic and political systems also misuse religion and religious ideology in exactly the same way.
Some of the religions you mention bolster up such destructive systems by teaching that the world is evil and must be transcended, and that an apocalypse is inevitable and even desirable. So what you're saying doesn't quite add up.

11/29/2012 5:34:27 AM
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