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Stalin was a major mass murderer. So was his fellow atheist, Mao. Th worst mass murderers in history were atheists. Moreover, a disproportionate number of mass murderers were atheists and vise-versa. And every time atheists run a country, they wind up committing mass murder. IF you are successful in your quest of making the world atheistic we can expect to see a marked increase in mass murder.

laugh out loud, Torah Philosophy 44 Comments [11/3/2012 9:53:57 AM]
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Ahlberg

Even if it were true that the "worst mass murderers in history" were all atheists, and it isn't, who gives a shit? It doesn't logically follow in any way that all or even most atheists are inherently dangerous.

The majority of jailed criminals in the United States identify as Christian. Does this mean Christians are dangerous folk who should be gotten rid of? No, of course not. That would be absurd.

11/3/2012 10:16:10 AM

Justanotheratheist

This shit is so stale there's even mould growing on the mould.

11/3/2012 10:23:58 AM

Filin De Blanc

Isn't Jewish Philosopher himself always talking about how we need to commit mass murder of basically everyone who does stuff he doesn't like?

11/3/2012 10:25:52 AM

Wehpudicabok

Correlation does not equal causation.

11/3/2012 10:28:03 AM

Papabear

What the morons who spew this agrument always fail to recognize is that while religious zealots often murder in the name of their religion, atheists never murder in the name of atheism.

11/3/2012 10:35:59 AM

myheadhurts

It was my understanding that Mao was Buddhist. Also, mass murderers tend to follow an ideology of some sort. In written history, very few atheists have ever run a country -Stalin, if he actually was atheist, may be the only one. Making conclusions based on one is poor form.

11/3/2012 10:42:02 AM

Frostythesnowman

No mention of Hitler who was a Catholic this time? Or the fact that Stalin was enrolled in a Russion Orthodox seminary? Or the theocracy of Iran? Or the genocidal slaughter of the Amalekites which Yaweh gleefully prompted? Or the fact that Mao utilsed the example of Hirohito to manipulate his image into one of divine infallability? It doesn't sound too atheist does it?

Does anyone seriously think that this blatantly false and idiotic argument is going to fool anyone?

11/3/2012 10:52:45 AM

Kulgur

"And every time atheists run a country, they wind up committing mass murder."

Someone should tell Norway, Iceland and Australia that there are secret mass murder sprees that no one except "laugh out loud" knows about, going on.

11/3/2012 11:12:48 AM

Often Partisan

Stalin, Mao, blah blah blah...

"And every time atheists run a country, they wind up committing mass murder."

What?! (Does Nick Clegg count as "running" Britain? he's an atheist).

11/3/2012 11:25:13 AM

Meeeh

None of your fantasy atheists killed in the name of atheism.

Heck, Stalin wasn't even an atheist.

11/3/2012 11:38:32 AM

QuasiRodent

someone please drill into these numbnuts' brains that Atheism != not worshiping the Abrahamic god. People who believe in other gods are not Atheists.

11/3/2012 11:52:48 AM

JSS

Yet again...


11/3/2012 12:01:49 PM

Aquarians Love To Fuck

"......IF you are successful in your quest of making the world atheistic we can expect to see a marked increase in mass murder......"

And this is a bad thing?

11/3/2012 12:10:49 PM

fishtank

Citation needed.

Also, go away.

11/3/2012 12:28:09 PM

Old Viking

Not even close to historical accuracy, and very condemnatory. Mass murderers have feelings too.

11/3/2012 12:34:33 PM

J. James

Aren't there plenty of European and Australian atheist leaders? And besides, the evil philosophy of Communism undoubtably influenced Mao and Stalin more than the morally neutral belief of Atheism.

11/3/2012 1:25:08 PM

D Laurier

Piere Elliot Trudeau was prime minister of Canada for 13 years.
Never commited mass murder.
He (Trudeau) ran a country (Canada) for 13 years without commiting mass murder.


He was an atheist.


11/3/2012 1:31:21 PM

UHM

"Moreover, a disproportionate number of mass murderers were atheists and vise-versa."
Yeah, erm "fucking up the economy"!="killing people"

"And every time atheists run a country, they wind up committing mass murder."
Australia and Iceland, you are both fucked. (And I belief a rather large percentage of other European nations too - what? We're not even asking our leaders what religion they have...)

11/3/2012 1:32:07 PM

Hertzyscowicz

There have been mass murderers on both sides. If there's anything to be inferred from atheism's greater kill count, it is that atheists are inherently more competent than theists.

@UHM: Scandinavia is also little more than a massive extermination camp.

11/3/2012 3:14:06 PM

Swede

Stalin was, in effect, a deity. So, no atheism in his Russia, really.

Yeah, the country of Sweden is a really violent country! We have, what, about 100 people dying of lethal violence per year. No, not per 100 000 people; per 9 million people. The most common weapon is a knife.

We have constantly refused to get involve in any and all wars in the latest century, until we got the most right-wing, conservative government we've had for, well, a century. Now we are involved in several wars, far, far from our borders.

11/3/2012 3:27:43 PM

Berny

Stalin and Mao were both totalitarian dictators who ran their countries with an iron fist. Had you said, anytime you have a totalitarian dictator running a country you wind up with mass murders, you would have been very close to the truth.
Instead, you missed the mark completely.

11/3/2012 4:19:56 PM



Neither Stalin , or Mao were atheists.


11/3/2012 5:24:35 PM

Pule Thamex

An atheist who murders doesn't pretend that he or she murdered at the behest of a supernatural being.

11/3/2012 5:43:54 PM

Sasha

I also want to point out that Stalin and Mao lived during the 20th century of huge populations and had modern methods to murder those huge populations.

And while we're discussing mass murder, what about the murder of Native Americans by supposed Christians?

11/3/2012 5:59:44 PM

Hoplite

As someone said earlier, correlation != causation. Mass murderers can just as easily be religious, agnostic or atheistic, and this has been borne out by history. It is rather the possession of power and an adherence to psycho/sociopathic beliefs or tendencies that produce mass murder.

11/3/2012 6:50:53 PM
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