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[Story time with aCultureWarrior]

So I'm at the fillin station and see this woman acquaintance and strike up a conversation with her saying how the gas prices have dropped as I speculated that they would so close to the election (are the American people really that stupid that they'd vote for the Marxist again because they're saving a few pennies on gasoline?). She starts talking about watching the debates and how both candidates pretty much said what they thought the people wanted to hear. Her wisdom rapidly went downhill after that.

I told her I was involved in the REJECT R-74 campaign and hundreds and hundreds of signs have been stolen across the state. She wasn't familiar with R-74, so I told her that it was to repeal the current legislation that would allow homosexuals to "marry". She gives me this odd look and talks about how she's in "the THEA-A-TAR" and "has many gay friends and also had two uncles that were gay". She continues to tell me how she hopes her boys grow up open minded and how she would approve of them if one "came out". I told her that marriage is the foundation of society and that it is founded upon Biblical principles. She stated (even though she and her family attend church) that she "didn't agree with everything in the Bible".

Not wanting to be doused by gasoline and set on fire, I held off on comments like "If Uncle Bruce and Uncle Bruce were both adulterers, into incest or bestiality, would you approve of those lifestyles as well?"

Nor did I comment on how she should be careful about allowing her two young boys to be around homosexuals, as they're notorious child molesters.

As far as her views on the Bible go, I would have loved to share this article on "ala carte Christianity" with her, perhaps I'll email it to her.

"We live in a time what could be called “ala carte” Christianity. That is, sometimes you go to a fancier restaurant and the menu will say “ala carte.” You pick and chose those parts of the menu that seem the best for you, those parts that you think you can afford. And so you chose this and this. Well, that is the way that some people feel about the Ten Commandments. They pick and chose those parts of the Ten Commandments that they want to obey. For example, I may like commandments two, three and four but commandments five, six and seven are not so attractive to me. So Christians chose which commandments are important to them..."

aCultureWarrior, Theology Online 44 Comments [11/4/2012 4:12:05 AM]
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"We live in a time what could be called “ala carte” Christianity."

No, we live in a time when it is no longer accepted that one church or religion has access to a universal truth and that those who disagree with you, do so because they have arrived at their own conclusions though independent thought.

You no longer have the right to force others to accept your own decisions, that your thoughts and Gods thoughts are the one and the same, or to oppress any other person(s) who do not agree with you. In the past, churches considered this to be their right and are having a difficult time changing their stance to a new, multi faith and and more secular basis to society.

11/4/2012 4:20:19 AM


Why the fuck do these people bring up *bestiality* when talking about gay people? The "logic" has something to do with "people shouldn't perform bestiality, therefore we should block gays from getting married to prevent that".

If you're concerned about bestiality and incest, work on passing laws against those. Otherwise, just admit that you hate gay people.

11/4/2012 4:20:30 AM


That 'love thy neighbour' thing not on your plate I see.

11/4/2012 4:22:51 AM


Clearly the commandment about not bearing false witness is not on today's menu then? Or is Mr Obama really a Marxist? Are homosexual people really 'notorious child molesters? Are you really full of shit?

Clue: No, No, Yes.

11/4/2012 4:23:59 AM


I'd love to ask aCulture Warrior if he eats shellfish or wears mixed fibres. Then we can talk about a la carte-ism.

11/4/2012 4:27:01 AM

Filin De Blanc

These people can never actually argue against homosexuality; they always have to bring up something else like bestiality and hope you won't notice that they aren't the same thing.

11/4/2012 4:27:59 AM

Leighton Buzzard

Which of the 'ten commandments' is about gay people, again?

11/4/2012 4:47:23 AM


Wow. You're certainly a brave warrior.

11/4/2012 5:27:49 AM


Please explain how Obama lowered gas prices and why he didn't do it sooner and take credit for it. I'll wait.

11/4/2012 5:50:45 AM


Perhaps you should read the entire Bible and not just the select verses that you use to justify your hate and ignorance. I highly doubt you would agree with EVERYTHING in the Bible, unless of course you are as backward as you sound.

11/4/2012 6:55:23 AM


You ay call yourself a warrior, but running out on a discussion and bragging about how you would have verbally beaten this woman into submission is the height of cowardice.

You are nothing but a poseur!

11/4/2012 7:31:08 AM


But Cult, that is exactly what evangelical "christians" do. They pick and choose which scriptures they believe. You know there are all those scriptures about what to eat and what NOT to eat. "christians" don't follow THOSE rules. The Bible talks about what fabrics should and should not be worn. "christians" don't follow those rules. The Bible repeatedly talks about who should be slayed and for what. "christians" don't slaying all those people. Now, the problem, cult, is that evangelicals pick and choose from the OLD Testament.

11/4/2012 7:36:12 AM


sometimes you go to a fancier restaurant and the menu will say “ala carte.”

What? You mean fancier than McDonald's or Bob's Tavern & Grill?

You fucking elitist snob! Think you're better or something? Goin' to them uptown places?

Jesus never ate "à la carte"! (That's the way it's spelled, btw.)

I bet that one time you were at a place like that, you were upset when they didn't ask you "want fries with that?".


11/4/2012 7:52:47 AM

The Watcher

Cool story, bro.

11/4/2012 8:40:53 AM


Why for all that is unholly, do Americans constantly have to attack everybody with differing opinion? What is it about America that makes people do this? It's as if you people are having constant with-hunts without burning people.

But ya know what, with all the "á la carte" stuff I agree, It's not really that religion anymore once you start cherry-picking what you belief in. Either you belief all the lies, bullshit and fantasies or your not really a Christian (or Jewish, or Muslim).

11/4/2012 9:10:36 AM


As much as & loathe unCulturedWeirdo, I do understand the "à la carte" argument. However, both fundies & non-fundies cherry-pick their scriptures. The difference is, fundies tend to cherry-pick the dogmatic death-dealing verses of doom while non-fundies tend to go for nice humanitarian verses of kindness, charity & love.

Non-fundies cherry-pick the right stuff while fundies cherry-pick the wrong stuff.

11/4/2012 9:33:49 AM

Doubting Thomas

"We live in a time what could be called “ala carte” Christianity. That is, sometimes you go to a fancier restaurant and the menu will say “ala carte.” You pick and chose those parts of the menu that seem the best for you

Christians have been doing this for centuries. When's the last time Culture Warrior sold all his possessions and gave all that money to the poor? Or when did he ever give money to someone who asked for it without demanding it back? Or, since he seems focused on the anti-gay passage of Leviticus, when's the last time he ate shellfish, did any work on the Sabbath, wore clothes of mixed fibers, ate meat and dairy products together, or touched a menstruating woman?

11/4/2012 9:51:10 AM


Christian Inquisition! By Protestants! On Protestants!

Yet Protestants can hold any belief they want! MADNESS!

11/4/2012 10:21:05 AM


The Inquisition of double posts.

11/4/2012 10:48:46 AM

Often Partisan

Obama. is. not. a. Marxist.
If you met a real Marxist you would shit yourself.

11/4/2012 11:38:23 AM

He Who Doubts

So then this begs the question, which of the Ten Commandments has anything to do with marriage? The answer is none. None of them have anything to do with it.

Additionally, it's disappointing to learn that aCultureWarrior is a Washington State resident like me. This guy is undoubtedly a stupid fuck that makes doing the right thing for gay people more difficult. I plan to cast my ballot today ahead of the voting deadline, and I promise that R74 will get my approval and gays will marry. aCultureWarrior can go fuck himself with his self righteousness.

11/4/2012 12:03:42 PM


@UHM: From what I've read (I only *wish* I could remember the title of the book in question), the legacy of Calvinism has something to do with it. You had to have, or at least be actively seeking to have, an absolute, unalloyed, perfect lifestyle and philosophy/religion. Otherwise, it might mean you were actually one of the reprobate, not one of the elect. Result: Many people CONSTANTLY hectoring themselves (without the impetus of congenital depression) over the smallest things, at least until they think they've got everything hunky-dory. But when someone speaks otherwise, it looks like an attack on one's virtue, an unalloyed condemnation. And...well...there's no way BOTH of you can be elect, if you differ THAT much. And what fellowship hath light with darkness?

11/4/2012 12:17:12 PM


Working on a Saturday. Wearing mixed-fibre clothing. Eating shellfish. Piercings/tattoos.

Condemning homosexuality.

A La Carte Christianity.

And after one's main course of roast Pork with Hypocrisy Au Jus, would sir care to pick his dessert...? Cherries, served on a Bible...?! But I'm afraid that 'Wedding Soup' is off, as 'Marriage' isn't mentioned in the menu - nor even the legal document that is the US Constitution.

...and after your feast of Double Standards Gastronomique, a waffer-thin Mint! Bon Appetit!

(*Quickly ducks behind potted plant to avoid the beyond-overloaded Mr. Creosote-esque a(n Un)Culture(d)Warrior's Mount St. Helens-like eruption*)

[/"Monty Python's The Meaning of Life"] X3

11/4/2012 12:27:49 PM

Mr. Bigglesworth

The ninth commandment certainly isn't attractive to you, no cherry picking here, you ignore it altogether.

11/4/2012 12:32:39 PM


I like how aCultureWarrior was too afraid of the woman's reaction to share his more bigoted comments with her. What a hero.

11/4/2012 1:14:00 PM

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