Leiter asserted that the “the Great Flood in the time of Noah was triggered by the recognition of same-gender marriages,” adding that there are similar “messages in this particular storm for us.” “The Lord will not bring another flood to destroy the entire world but He could punish particular areas with a flood, and if we look at the same-gender marriage recognition movement that’s occurring, that certainly is a message for us to learn,” he said. “We have to learn that the Lord does watch what we do and if we don’t shape up He will deliver divine justice.” Leiter also suggested that God flooded Lower Manhattan because it is “one of the national centers of homosexuality.”
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"There are so many things that people could point out about the negatives aspects of the homosexual lifestyle that is being touted as being this wonderful idea that the media doesn’t talk about. We’re talking about victimization that goes on under the rubric of protecting people’s rights; they’re not interested in protecting people’s rights, they’re interested in giving people a license to victimize, particularly to victimize children, and we pick up the pieces on some of that. We know how hard this is hitting society. The crisis of child molestation is not independent of the intentional proliferation of unfettered homosexuality, they are definitely connected, it doesn’t meant that every molester is homosexual but many of them are, there is a disproportionate number that are homosexual males. They are in some cases being given a certain degree of diplomatic immunity because of their favored status centered around a common vice. That’s something that no state has a right to do."
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Says a member of the church which performs ritualised fellatio on babies...
Once again, we have a numbskull who doesn't realise that there is a world outside the USA. And here, in countries where we largely couldn't care less what a loving couple get up to, no gods have smitten us with their wrath. I wonder why? Could non-existence be a factor perhaps?
the Great Flood in the time of Noah was triggered by the recognition of same-gender marriages
It was? How come that isn't in Genesis, then? And why is nobody concerned about little girls being molested, eh?
"The crisis of child molestation is not independent of the intentional proliferation of unfettered homosexuality, they are definitely connected..."
Citation required.
How many times can you be told that homosexuality and paedophilia are not the same and still manage to keep your ears (and mind) closed to the evidence? All the research has proven this, plus it has also shown that child abuse is no more or less prevalent in today's society than previous societies. What we do have is more awareness of child abuse; which is a good thing.
"Leiter asserted that the “the Great Flood in the time of Noah was triggered by the recognition of same-gender marriages,”"
Say it with me cheerleaders...
[font=arial]Evidence. Or. It. Didn't. Happen![/font]
"We’re talking about victimization that goes on under the rubric of protecting people’s rights; they’re not interested in protecting people’s rights, they’re interested in giving people a license to victimize, particularly to victimize children"
Say it again with me cheerleaders...
[font=arial]Homosexuality. Does. Not. Equate. To. Child. Molestation![/font]
Maybe you'll want to shape up on your rationality skills so you can stop believing all this superstitious dogma, Mr. Rabbi. If not, society can function just fine if not better without you and your ilk.
“the Great Flood in the time of Noah was triggered by the recognition of same-gender marriages,”
- I know you're supposed to be a rabbi Noson, but have you actually read the bible?
Ah, but I keep forgetting, the actual words of the bible mean nothing to its groupies.
Leiter has obviously not read the Bible. God says in Genesis 6:13 "I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them."
How come the storm hit the US of A and not Europe, if it was all because of gender-neutral marriage laws? Many European countries have same-sex marriage laws, and have not seen any rise in child molestations after they were introduced. Homosexual orientation (not lifestyle) is touted as a naturally occurring trait in most animals, including Homo Sapiens. It's neither negative, nor wonderful, it just is. It probably evolved as a safety valve against over-population. Most child molesters are male heterosexuals, or males with no adult sexuality whatsoever, and most molested children are females. Citation very much needed for homosexual child molesters being given a certain degree of diplomatic immunity.
From Wikipedia:
The global prevalence of child sexual abuse has been estimated at 19.7% for females and 7.9% for males, according to a 2009 study published in Clinical Psychology Review that examined 65 studies from 22 countries. Using the available data, the highest prevalence rate of child sexual abuse geographically was found in Africa (34.4%), primarily because of high rates in South Africa; Europe showed the lowest prevalence rate (9.2%) ; America and Asia had prevalence rates between 10.1% and 23.9%. In the past, other research has concluded similarly that in North America, for example, approximately 15% to 25% of women and 5% to 15% of men were sexually abused when they were children. Most sexual abuse offenders are acquainted with their victims; approximately 30% are relatives of the child, most often brothers, fathers, uncles or cousins; around 60% are other acquaintances such as 'friends' of the family, babysitters, or neighbors; strangers are the offenders in approximately 10% of child sexual abuse cases. Most child sexual abuse is committed by men; studies show that women commit 14% to 40% of offenses reported against boys and 6% of offenses reported against girls.
I was wondering when the "God sent hurricane Sandy to punish the country for allowing gay marriage" comments would start rolling in.
Claiming that the worldwide flood was caused by same-sex marriage is just rewriting the bible to suit your own prejudices, since there's no indication of why everyone on earth was wicked, it just says they were. I could just as easily claim that the global flood was triggered by everyone being greedy, not caring about their fellow man, refusing health care for everyone, and voting Republican, and it would have the same merit as the claim that the flood was sent because of gay marriage.
@Frostythesnowman & Swede:
The reason God sens storms to America for gay marriage is because God's chosen people are the fine, upstanding Christians of the United States, and people in other countries are just godless heathens who are going to get theirs in hell anyway. But the good American Christians need to be chastised with hurricanes so they'll see the true path and bring the country in line with what God wants.
I wish I were kidding about this, but this is what fundies here actually believe.
You know, bible turd worshipers, God normally sent COUNTRIES to punish Isrealites... not storms. Hrm... so maybe if we're attacked by the Neo-Babloyian Empire we should be worried. Until then, get your knickers out of the twist. God sent one storm, because of violence (Which you guys cherish. Maybe that's why red states get all those storms normally by your logic?), but promised not to do it again.
@Frostythesnowman
Or he just doesn't care and he lets humans do their own thing. Cause, you know, free will. Being too big for us. Or the not existing thing, that works too.
"Leiter asserted that the “the Great Flood in the time of Noah was triggered by the recognition of same-gender marriages,” adding that there are similar “messages in this particular storm for us.” “The Lord will not bring another flood to destroy the entire world but He could punish particular areas with a flood, and if we look at the same-gender marriage recognition movement that’s occurring, that certainly is a message for us to learn"
Well, if Hurricane/Storm Sandy is one such message, then if your 'God' is using those parts of the US - which includes ultra-orthodox Jews in their populations - as a 'whipping boy'...:
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...then it seems that Holland didn't get that memo, Rabbi. Nor have they learned this particular 'lesson'. And why hasn't that country been 'punished' similarly, before now...?!
No, according to your Bible, women (Daughters Of Men) started gettin' it on with hot sexy angel dudes (Sons Of God) and started popping out giants (The Children Of Anak/Anakim).
GEEZ! This idiot doesn't even know his own scripture yet he claims to be a Rabbi!
This same bozo also performs circumcisions with his teeth! Gross!
You know, I wish that once, just once, someone who spouts lies like this would come out and admit that they were wrong. How wonderful that would be!
"it doesn’t meant that every molester is homosexual but many of them are, there is a disproportionate number that are homosexual males." If the number of child molesters is higher than average for homosexual males and not for homosexuals over all, maybe being male is the problem, not being homosexual. Oh wait, that would mean radical feminists are right...
There's another quote here that mentions the same thing; apparently this stuff about gay marriage is in the apocrypha or something. Or they're just full of shit as they usually are, I'm not sure. Regardless, if it didn't warrant a mention in the actual book of Genesis how important could it possibly be?
@werewolf
Did Noah post it on Twitter before he got on the ark?
No, of course not. Twitter wasn't invented yet. He used normal email. Like duhh.
;-)
" Leiter also suggested that God flooded Lower Manhattan because it is “one of the national centers of homosexuality.” "
I suggest that God flooded the christian parts of New Orleans because of the excesses of fundies. Perhaps he flooded lower Manhatten bcause it is a center of Hasidics. Or maybe it's just because water tends to go downhill to a lower place.
There has, however, been no global catastrophic flood at anytime in the geologically recent past (on the order of the past 20 million years). You're making the common error of confusing scripture and journalism.
There is just so much wrong with this post that I don't even know where to begin so...
I will just make the point about how indiscriminately god kills straight people and children in order to punish the fags and the people who enable them. It is almost as if it were truly random.
@Sasha:
"Astonishing that if child sexual molestation is such an evil, no mention of it can be found in the Old Testament.
Food for thought."
Actually, (female) child molestation is kinda mentioned in the OT. Just not as a problem .
> The Lord will [...] punish particular areas with a flood, and if we look at the same-gender marriage recognition movement that’s occurring, that certainly is a message for us to learn
I'm in Finland. We have registered partnerships already.
Hurricane Sandy was so dangerous and evil that they had to bring a meteorologist to the news studio to tell everyone that that shit can't happen here. North Atlantic is fucking cold, in case you haven't noticed.
And I'm living in the shores of the Baltic Sea. The sea level has continuously slowly lowered since the last ice age . Good luck with that flooding, guys.
And we have no earthquakes, being so far from the tectonic boundaries. Just in case you were wondering.
@WWWWolf:
Geology and meteorology are the new “iron chariots” and god is powerless against them. He can only strike with natural disasters in areas where these disaster would be happening anyway
So you should be save from him, even though God hates Finland , apparently.
it doesn’t meant that every molester is homosexual but many of them are, there is a disproportionate number that are homosexual males.
... Which is odd, because every reputable source instead suggests they're disproportionately heterosexual males who, when they prey on boys, do so because it's easier for an adult male to gain unfettered access to boys conducive to molestation than it is for the same male to get similar access to girls.
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