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Anthony Kennedy wrote the infamous Lawrence v. Texas decision that made laws against sodomy unenforceable in America. The Court issued this egregious display of arrogant and immoral judicial activism despite the fact that sodomy had been a criminal offense in all 50 States until 1961 and was still against the law in 24 States and the District of Columbia when the Lawrence decision was issued.

So in one fell swoop the Court deprived almost half the Union of the right to self-governance through their elected representatives, the essence of a republican form of government, and imposed its own twisted version of morality on the entire country. And here we thought imposing your values on others was supposed to be bad! Silly us for believing that swill.

Bryan Fischer, Rightly Concerned 62 Comments [11/5/2012 4:54:42 AM]
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breakerslion

"The essence of a republican fundamentalist puritanical form of government tyranny has imposed its own twisted version of morality on the entire country for over two centuries. You don't complain about that because you're part of the problem, Bryan.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/04/22/jack.johnson.pardon/


11/5/2012 11:25:09 AM

UHM

Keeping you from imposing your values on others is not imposing our values on you. By the same logic the death sentence is conspiracy to murder and believing that society should be ordered how the Bible say would be treason to the Constitution.

And fucking stop using the term "judicial activism", it's annoying when a prejorative term becomes synonomous with "I don't like that".

By the way, 24 states of 50 is still the minority and the federal government is sovereign on civil rights - the states may only expand them, not take some away "'cause that's the way we like it down here".

11/5/2012 11:30:07 AM

freako104

You're supposed to be for small gov't. As in not in the fucking bedroom.

11/5/2012 11:37:41 AM

Canuovea

Con-sti-tu-tion

11/5/2012 11:53:13 AM

JSS

And here we thought imposing your values on others was supposed to be bad!

Oh it is. We believe that forcing values upon others through a bedroom nanny state is to be prohibited, and that the government shouldn't impose on sexual acts that involve adults that consent and have full capacity to do so. This is unlike the fascist religious movements that seek to legislate private bedroom conduct oh-so-dishonestly in the name of religious freedom. The Supreme Court has every right to strike down state legislation that infringes upon the individual freedoms of it's citizens.

Of course, this kind of thinking would be lost on you, which is again why your ideas are unworthy of consideration or respect.

11/5/2012 12:10:05 PM

thatotherguy

Sodomy laws were essentially unenforceable and generally went unenforced well before Lawrence v. Texas. I mean come on, we're talking about finding out when someone is having sex and then having to check to see what gender the person they're having sex with is. Most people, even people who didn't support gay marriage weren't willing to go through all that, just to bring a court case to justice. And if they were...

It was decided in Lawrence v. Texas that that any court case that resulted from a sodomy law would necessarily result from a major invasion of privacy. The court wasn't deciding that gay relationships were to be considered socially acceptable or legitimate (not that they're not) just that sodomy laws were unenforceable.

So there.

11/5/2012 12:14:16 PM

appletaz

My doublethink alarm is sounding off again. Fuck. How the flying fuck do these people get to the conclusion that invasion of privacy and government, whether local, state, or federal, policing morality and private behavior is somehow "freedom" and that its against their freedums to prohibit this?

11/5/2012 2:29:32 PM



It was also illegal for blacks to go to the same schools or use the same toilets as whites once upon a time before a controversial court ruling.

11/5/2012 2:45:52 PM

Papabear

Why is sodomy any more of a state issue than a federal issue? Silly us for reading your swill.

11/5/2012 2:59:06 PM

Old Viking

The distinction between legislating and judging eludes him completely.

11/5/2012 4:12:11 PM

Wehpudicabok

"And here we thought imposing your values on others was supposed to be bad!"

Imposing one's values on citizens is bad, because citizens have a right to live their own lives. Lawrence v. Texas was SCOTUS imposing values on another branch of government, which is the entire point of having a system of checks and balances as we do. Well, that and to prevent tyranny.

I love how the same people who constantly go on about how much liberals abuse the Constitution always rail against "judicial activism" that violates the "essence of a republican form of government," apparently without the understanding that the courts (yes, including the Supreme Court) were created by the Constitution.

Admittedly, the Constitution did not specifically enumerate the power of judicial review (this was a result of Marbury v. Madison), so technically this goes beyond the Constitution as it is strictly written. But I'll give twenty bucks to anyone who can find me either (a) a conservative who actually knew that or (b) any scholar of constitutional law who believes that judicial review is not the proper role of the modern Supreme Court. I doubt this will cost me a dime.

11/5/2012 4:18:31 PM



"And here we thought imposing your values on others was supposed to be bad!"

Yes! That's the point.

11/5/2012 5:30:49 PM

myheadhurts

don't like oral or anal sex, don't participate

otherwise, shet ep

11/5/2012 5:33:01 PM

Kevin Klawitter

"My doublethink alarm is sounding off again. Fuck. How the flying fuck do these people get to the conclusion that invasion of privacy and government, whether local, state, or federal, policing morality and private behavior is somehow "freedom" and that its against their freedums to prohibit this?"

Because lots of people (particularly those raised in the South) judge their own freedom based on how much they're able to compromise the freedom of others. If they aren't allowed to persecute others, then their own rights have been violated.

It's the same reason why they're all for business deregulation and all that jazz. The ruling class shouldn't be told what not to do... that's what THEY are supposed to do to the rest of us!

11/5/2012 6:36:16 PM

M

Spoiler alert:

Bryan Fischer will sooner or later turn out to actually be really into sodomy behind closed doors!

11/5/2012 6:46:54 PM

Phloom

In a few years, I would not be surprised if Bryan Fisher is caught with his pecker buried in some young boy's rectum. The louder the anti-gay fundies yells, the more in the closet they are,

11/5/2012 11:33:03 PM

Dyz

Right wing nut jobs always want everyone to be free to be right wing nut job and nothing else? Is diversity really that scary to them?

11/6/2012 5:47:22 AM

His4Life

Why is there so much controversy about anti-sodomy legislation, but none about pro-sodomy legislation? Why is that not forcing one group of peope's will unethically against everyone else? I do not remember giving consent for my kids to study homosexual practices in school.

11/6/2012 6:10:49 AM

His4Life

It's interesting because Jesus taught "on earth, as it is heaven." I see atheists and others trying to make it "on earth, as it is in hell." As I've pointed out before, sodomy is a daily practice in hell. It's not surprising that atheists, etc., want to make it a daily practice in America too as they transform this country into the likeness of their father the devil's kingdom.

11/6/2012 6:13:47 AM

Mister Spak

@His4Life:

"I do not remember giving consent for my kids to study homosexual practices in school. "

I do not remember giving consent for my kids to study a bronze age superstition in school.

Nor do I remember giing permission for me to live under a tyranny based on tht superstition.

"As I've pointed out before, sodomy is a daily practice in hell."

Provide evidence that hell even exists, then we'll talk. Until then, STFU.

Also, did you mean the christian hell or the muslim hell?

11/6/2012 6:22:38 AM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

Guess what, His4Life, sodomy already IS a daily practice in America. Most of its practitioners are heterosexual couples.

And there ain't a damn thing your preaching can do about it.

11/6/2012 6:49:22 AM

His4Life

What couples do in their bedrooms is their own business, but why do you gays have to literally parade it in front of us and our children?

11/6/2012 6:51:49 AM

Filin De Blanc

"What couples do in their bedrooms is their own business, but why do you gays have to literally parade it in front of us and our children?"

Why do you have to parade your religion in front of us and our children?

11/6/2012 8:30:23 AM

thatotherguy

'What couples do in their bedrooms is their own business"

Then you agree that anti-sodomy or anti-homosexual legislation can never work. I happen to disagree with the sentiment of the second half of your sentence, but we'll stick to the first. Again, how are you going to enforce an anti-sodomy law without invading a couple's bedroom, literally according to you, invading their own business.

11/6/2012 11:18:34 AM

mellenORL

His4Life,

I don't understand what you mean by "you gays have to parade it in front of us, etc".

Where do you live? In an apartment above a drag show bar?

11/6/2012 11:38:33 AM
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