Home Archives Random Quotes Latest Comments Top 100 Submit Quote Search Log In

Quote# 90528

[Part of a lecture on world history]
Ethnic conflict was even worse in Bosnia-Herzegovina, which consists of Muslims, Croats and Serbs, who are Christian. Bosnia-Herzegovina first declared its independence from Serbia, but the Christian Bosnian Serbs did not want to live under Muslim rule and a civil war began in March 1992 over whether Bosnia would split from Serbia. Anti-Christian press accused the Serbs of “ethnic cleansing,” or racially motivated mass murders, as the Serbs were allegedly killing off Bosnian Muslims.

andy Schlafly, Conservapedia 58 Comments [11/6/2012 4:00:12 AM]
Fundie Index: 83
Submitted By: Hamza
WTF?! || meh
Username:
Comment:



1 2 3
Berny

"Allegedly"?
Shitfly, you take the fucking cake this time. These events are a matter of public record now, to deny they happened is on a par with denying the Holocaust, although I wouldn't put that past you either.

11/7/2012 8:29:32 PM

Tolpuddle Martyr

Fucking hell Assfly...Even bloody Faux News acknowledges that there was ethnic cleansing by Serbia in the bloody Balkans!

11/7/2012 10:29:02 PM

Kuno

@JoeMama & Berny:

Holocaust deniers at least have the excuse that they most likely weren’t alive when the Shoa happened.

But this happened in our lifetime! That’s not even rewriting history anymore, it is rewriting the present.

11/8/2012 1:55:44 AM

Delirium

Translation: "The Bosnian Genocide doesn't fit into my simplistic 'evil Muslims are killing the poor innocent Christians!!!!1111' narrative and actually makes the Christians look really awful, therefore it didn't happen."

Ugh. The sad part is that a lot of Islamophobes actually believe this shit.

11/9/2012 3:44:20 PM

Hasan Prishtina

1."Ethnic conflict was even worse in Bosnia-Herzegovina, which consists of Muslims, Croats and Serbs, who are Christian."

Wrong. Not only are the Croats are also Christian, but "Muslim" in the Bosnian context is an ethnic description, not a religious one; it just means someone of from a Muslim background. So a "Muslim" can be atheist, Christian, Buddhist, whatever.

2."Bosnia-Herzegovina first declared its independence from Serbia"

Wrong. Bosnia-Hercegovina declared its independence from Yugoslavia, just like Christian Croatia, Macedonia and Slovenia. In fact, Bosnia-Hercegovina has never been part of Serbia.

3. "but the Christian Bosnian Serbs did not want to live under Muslim rule and a civil war began in March 1992 over whether Bosnia would split from Serbia."

Wrong. While debating the independence referendum in the parliament in Sarajevo, Radovan Karadžic said "You want to take Bosnia and Herzegovina down the same highway to hell and suffering that Slovenia and Croatia are travelling. Do not think that you will not lead Bosnia and Herzegovina into hell, and do not think that you will not perhaps lead the Muslim people into annihilation, because the Muslims cannot defend themselves if there is war – How will you prevent everyone from being killed in Bosnia and Herzegovina?"

Nothing there about not wanting to live under Muslim rule. And Bosnia-Herzegovina still wasn't part of Serbia.

4.Anti-Christian press accused the Serbs of “ethnic cleansing,” or racially motivated mass murders, as the Serbs were allegedly killing off Bosnian Muslims.

So did most of the Christian Press. And most of the press that was neither Christian nor anti-Christian. And the International Court of Justice and the Hague Tribunal. Many times over.

Denial of genocide in Bosnia, as with Holocaust denial, or denial of any other genocide, relies on exactly the same methods of dissimulation and chicanery. And it deserves no better.

I passed the statue of Bill Clinton on Bill Clinton Boulevard in Prishtina this afternoon. It made me very happy.

11/14/2012 2:31:05 PM

Vman

@ Hasan Prishtina:
"I passed the statue of Bill Clinton on Bill Clinton Boulevard in Prishtina this afternoon. It made me very happy. "

-> lol :D
Don't crush the fundies' dreams, it makes the poor guys sad ;P

I don't have much to add to what Hasan said, that's generally it.
But while it's true that 'Muslim' was above all an ethnic term rather than a religious one in Bosnia & Herzegovina, it's mostly fallen out of use since then. Now the term 'Bosniak' is primarily used instead to describe the ethnic group, while 'muslim' is just a religious term.

Also, unlike what Hasan says, I'm quite sure that not wanting to live under Muslim rule, as well as the desire to join the other Serbs from (ex-)Yugoslavia, was a motivation of many Bosnian Serbs.

Btw. Hasane, pozdrav iz Hrvatske :)

11/20/2012 11:33:48 AM

Anon-e-moose

@Tolpuddle Martyr

And now you know why Andy Schaftafly considers Faux News to be 'Liberal'. Anything - even the previously rigidly Repubican 'Indoctrination Central' that was FN (now, like Rush Limburger, dropped by the Repubicans as one would a towel with a skidmark on it) - that doesn't move in lockstep with Andy's warped thinking, isn't conservative.

But then, when all Conservative commentators/journalists/bloggers etc say he & his Conservapoodia doesn't represent them & their politics - and ALL higher echelons of fundamentalist Christianity in the US have universally panned Schaftafly's Bible Raping Project, certainly considering such as nothing less than heretical - then as Andy is completely detached from even Conservative Christian reality, you know how things are THAT bad for the Religious Reich.

Meanwhile, Andy keeps on a-keepin' on in Schaftaflyville, population: HIM. Must be quite an echo-chamber you have - in HTML form - there, m'boy. I wonder if he can say 'Vanity Project'...?!

2/17/2014 8:54:35 AM

Swede

Allegedly? The remains of many of the murdered Bosnian Muslims have been found, asshole!

If you want to rewrite history, focus on things that happened so long ago that no-one involved (nor their immediate relatives) is alive, like Biblical times. Stay away from things that most adults can vividly remember, and stay away from Europe; we Europeans know our recent history pretty well, on average. (With "recent history", I mean the latest 300 years or so.)

2/18/2014 7:34:19 AM
1 2 3