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#1468390
Doubting Thomas
their religion grinds on and has achieved a MAJOR victory tonight.
Assuming you're talking about the election, I thought Obama was a Muslim, not an atheist? Oh right, he's one of those atheist Muslims.
11/12/2012 5:46:40 AM
#1468393
Filin De Blanc
Are you sure it doesn't have anything to do with Romney insulting half of the country and lying through his teeth repeatedly?
11/12/2012 5:49:20 AM
#1468397
farpadokly
If Stalin, Kruschev, Mao, etc, were alive, they would look at Obama and see him for exactly what he is; a bourgeois centrist politician, whose electoral campaign was supported by some of the wealthiest people in the world.
And as for the 60s, etc, what that represented was much-needed change in America. If not for that, then you'd still be living in a segregated, sexually repressed, hypocritical, conformist society in which large swathes of people felt oppressed and miserable.
11/12/2012 5:54:08 AM
#1468416
Remind me of those long-term benefits to mankind, again?
11/12/2012 6:09:53 AM
#1468433
Mister Spak
"We are now seeing the US Society being controlled by the first generation that has been indoctrinated by those guys and it will only get worse from here on out. "
It's true, an entire generation has grown up hearing hard right historical revisionism since the Reagan years.
11/12/2012 6:20:46 AM
#1468449
Tempus
@Doubting Thomas: they don't think there's a difference.
Authoritarians tend to group all of their enemies into one great inchoate lump.
11/12/2012 6:31:17 AM
#1468473
SpukiKitty
I'm a Liberal and guys like Stalin & Mao make me barf.
Also, America is becoming EVEN MORE American.
You Freepers wouldn't know "American" if it whacked you in the face with a large fish!
Even Jesus thinks you're all a pile of manure!
11/12/2012 6:46:53 AM
#1468483
Reynardine
The country that was America still is, thanks to your defeat.
11/12/2012 6:55:27 AM
#1468489
Doubting Thomas
@Tempus: Yes, that's why I made the "atheist Muslim" reference. Though I probably should have thrown in "socialst Marxist communist fascist" for good measure.
11/12/2012 7:02:58 AM
#1468539
UHM
"Perhaps mankind REALLY is unworthy of the long term benefits of the country that was America."
I'm probably going to piss off a few Libs here too, but with the exception of two World Wars, the first man on the moon and Star Trek, what has your country ever delivered that wouldn't have been achieved otherwise?
The rather benign "spread of democracy" never really seemed to matter in practice, and througout it's history the United States supported horrific dictatorships and still does - the number of which is as high as several dozen. Archievements in sciences and technologies are pretty much what they are and somebody else would have at some point come up with them. Maybe you are talking about funding jihadists when it suited yourself and now acting like that never happend. Maybe it's just your overblown "chosen ones" narrative that all Americans of all political ideologies seem to be spouting from the rooftops at all possible chances, no matter if the sun is shining for all of 5 minutes or if you actually achieved something.
11/12/2012 7:49:19 AM
#1468608
Mattiedef
Well, the socio-economic recovery from WW2 in the form of the marshal plan is probably one of the larger effects America had. By doing what? Dumping money into countries, some former enemies. Why? Because they were practicing demand side economic policy. You know what happened? They bought metric tons of American Goods and helped spur the globalized economy, as well as push America into being the largest economy in the industrialized world. I'd say what America did after WW2 was far more noble than anything during the war. It turned around and dumped a bunch of money into both allies and former foes (Japan and Germany received quite a bit of money).
Wait a second, handouts and demand side economics helped America in the long run? Without turning into Socialism? In fact helped COMBAT communism? What is this? It's called history, darlings.
Until America remembers its demand side economics works and supply side don't, we (As in myself and other Americans) aren't providing benefits to anyone and just cutting our own wrists.
11/12/2012 9:36:46 AM
#1468625
Rabbit of Caerbannog
11/12/2012 10:16:03 AM
#1468704
fishtank
Why don't these people know ANYTHING.
11/12/2012 11:49:54 AM
#1468710
Sasha
@fishtank, because that would burst the fantasy bubble they live in.
11/12/2012 12:00:29 PM
#1468713
Skyknight
@Mattiedef: And I'm willing to bet that the reactionaries got entranced by the halo America gained from revitalizing the world economy. Going so far as to believe that THIS proved the nature of the "natural aristocracy" of nations--America at the top, then and forever.
I don't think they're opposed to the concept of elites per se, but rather to how the elites are currently defined--an artificial aristocracy, rather than a natural aristocracy. If people like Murray Rothbard (q.v. his Iron Law of Oligarchy) are anything to go by, they think egalitarianism and its ilk are impossible. There will always be a divide between barons and peasants; the important thing, to the reactionaries, is to ensure they never get swapped, whether by mistake or by design.
11/12/2012 12:06:29 PM
#1468807
Old Viking
Damned communists. Senator Joe McCarthy said they had infiltrated the highest levels of government and commerce, and were exceedingly difficult to identify. In fact, he never did find one.
11/12/2012 2:57:57 PM
#1468816
checkmate
sophisticated underground war in the 60s
Oh boy, just wait until this clown finds out that his favorite song, Moon River, is from the indocrinated communist movie Breakfast at Tiffany's and not from Perry Como.
11/12/2012 3:16:33 PM
#1468822
Papabear
I dare say the little you know of communism is what you learned in the 50s or 60s, that you should be afraid of it. Wake up and smell today's coffee. Communism as a political system is all but dead. While there are countries which call themselves communist, most of them are a far cry from those of the 60s. China is kicking our butts in capitalism, not communism.
Perhaps you are unworthy of America. I recommend you jump off a tall bridge.
11/12/2012 3:28:57 PM
#1468839
NonProphet
@farpadokly:
"And as for the 60s, etc, what that represented was much-needed change in America. If not for that, then you'd still be living in a segregated, sexually repressed, hypocritical, conformist society in which large swathes of people felt oppressed and miserable."
To be fair, that scenario is exactly what Freepers want.
11/12/2012 3:56:02 PM
#1468853
tracer
Yes, yes! The evil religion of Communism has clearly infiltrated every aspect of American society.
This is no relation at all to the religion of Christianity, which is totally different in the way it's infiltrated every aspect of American society....
11/12/2012 4:19:10 PM
#1468857
Often Partisan
It's spelt "Khrushchev".
11/12/2012 4:22:01 PM
#1468894
Actually, what we're now seeing, in our economy and the state of the middle class, wages, home prices, etc., etc., is the outcome of thirty-plus years of so-called "conservative" policy--the 'Reagan Revolution".
Middle class wages have been stagnant since 1978. Union membership has gone from 30% to 6%. Health care and health insurance is unaffordable for millions. All while income for the top fraction of one percent continues to grow exponentially. You're right. Unless we can stop it by taking Republicans out of power, it will only get worse from here on out.
11/12/2012 5:28:19 PM
#1468973
Fawful has seen God has a vagina on top of his penis
This post just refrains my beliefs. This guy was right:
11/12/2012 10:46:05 PM
#1469067
Grimsoncrow
What fucking long term benefits? Don't get me wrong, I think U.S is pretty Ok, apart from bombing defenseless countries to ashes every couple of years, but "Mankind is unworthy of us"? I mean REALLY??
Actually, UHM said it better.I'm not blind to the great things your country has achieved, but sometimes you guys really do get high on the smell of your own piss.
11/13/2012 5:43:53 AM
#1469144
Ebon
Perhaps mankind REALLY is unworthy of the long term benefits of the country that was America
No, that's just you.
11/13/2012 7:39:45 AM
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