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Why do left wingers pretend that Sweden is so good?
Ok fine, maybe they like their socialist policies, but what left wingers refuse to talk about is how bad their country is failing on their moral level.

Sweden is a country full of people who support the homosexual agenda. Because of this, they have gay marriage which hurts their country. Not only that, but not only are abortions legal, but they are covered under their communist health care.

Sweden is a failed state. FACT.

Christian Conservative Patriet, yahoo answers 92 Comments [11/16/2012 4:56:11 AM]
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Sweden, right? That country thats top 5 in income equality, satisfaction with life, HDI, lowest corruption, and much, much, more? Try again.

And who gave you any right to judge people's morals?

11/16/2012 5:03:48 AM


One of the most important rules in any civil debate, is to provide concrete examples that support your thesis. So you think Sweden is a failed state. I get it. How about providing something that supports this position?

Also, I can't wait to see how Swede responds to this one...

11/16/2012 5:11:19 AM


Sweden is a successful country in terms of social stability because it doesn't have many people like you in it.

There is no homomsexual agenda. People don't feel the need to judge others on their sex lives. Clearly this does not hurt the country at all.

As usual, you have no idea what communism actually is , but it has nothing to do with Sweden's health care provisions.

Sweden 'fails' in your terms because the population are educated enough to see religion for the nonsense it really is. And what should really scare you is that fact that they're not the only ones...

11/16/2012 5:12:08 AM


'Sweden is a country full of people who support the homosexual agenda. Because of this, they have gay marriage which hurts their country. Not only that, but not only are abortions legal, but they are covered under their communist health care.'

That's why they are a successful country and not a failed state. Sort out your own country's failings before judging other peoples.

11/16/2012 5:13:00 AM


Only by your cretinous standards.

11/16/2012 5:16:42 AM


Simply stating what you don't like doesn't explain exactly how it hurts a country. From what I've seen, Sweden appears to be a peaceful, prosperous country that has historically managed to keep it's distance from the squabbles and crises that seemed to plague the rest of the world.

11/16/2012 5:20:07 AM


I think your standards would make northern Mali look like a model nation...

11/16/2012 5:23:26 AM


Sweden is an awesome place, and this is coming from a person who is biased AGAINST the country (it's a Finnish thing... also I'm jealous we don't have gender neutral marriage yet)

11/16/2012 5:24:39 AM


This guy can't even spell his own screen name right ('Patriet'?).

Oh, and by the way, my so-called "Christian Conservative PATRIOT" (you're really none of these, 'Puritan Wingnut Nationalist'), how, pray tell, is Sweden a failed state? It's prosperous, peaceful, with a very high standard of living, clean environment, happy people, freedom, peace, low crime rate, etc. Sounds pretty darn successful to me. Same goes for Norway. Heck, all of the Scandinavian countries are top banana in varying degrees compared to all the other nations of the world. So, my "Patriet", how is this a failed state? Give me REAL examples!

11/16/2012 5:29:21 AM


It's called economics, not moralitics.

11/16/2012 5:29:26 AM


Most American "patriets" don't know spit about the world outside their own borders and roughly as much about the political spectrum in general.


Because saying fact makes it so much more legit.

11/16/2012 5:31:23 AM


You might wanna check what failed means.

My swedish brothers do as well as us Norwegians.

11/16/2012 5:37:34 AM


You have not given any actual reasons why Sweden is a "failed state", all you have said is that you disagree with Swedish policies.

11/16/2012 5:38:07 AM


So, your “argument” boils down to: „Legalizing gay marriage and abortion is bad because it allows gays to marry and women to have abortions.” and every state that does it is automatically “failed”? Very convincing…

PS: In my last job I had to visit Sweden twice, once in the summer and once in the winter, and would go again in a heartbeat. Also, the Swedes I met were the nicest person you could imagine.

If only the alcohol wasn't so damn expensive. :-(

11/16/2012 5:38:40 AM


Mudak, here I come. :-)

If Sweden is failing, it's due to the RIGHT-WING parties that have been ruling Sweden for several years now; selling out public property to their buddies at laughingly low prices, destroying our "communist health care" so that people now have to wait much longer and pay more for less medical care, dismantling our top-of-the-world education so that we are now barely in the middle.

Sure, Sweden is a country full of people who support human rights, and we have gender-neutral marriage laws, which have NOT hurt our country in any way. We have had registered partnership and then gay marriage for almost 15 years now, and the only difference is that gay people can formalize their relationships. Having a gay pride parade here is sort of pointless; most people say "So what?" or "Good for you" if they find out a friend is gay. But still, as we are this open and free, there is still a point to have a gay pride parade, for those countries where you will probably be killed if anyone finds out you're gay. Most of us like to be empathic like that; all for one and one for all.

Abortions are legal in the US too. All kinds of medical care are covered by our "communist" healt care, including help for childless couples to become pregnant. Teenagers have extra cheap contraceptives, and all kids receive extensive sexual education in school. I bet we have fewer abortions per capita than the US has*.

Sweden is a fairly well-functioning country. We're not as rich as Norway, sure, but more stable than Greece, Spain or Italy, at least.

* Actually no, I was wrong, we have about the same rate of abortions; a bit higher in some studies, a bit lower in others. If religion and morality had any impact, the US ought to have MUCH lower rates. If availability and acceptance had any impact, we ought to have much higher rates.

11/16/2012 5:46:51 AM


Denying people their rights based on your own religious hang-ups is failing on a moral level.

but not only are abortions legal, but they are covered under their communist health care.

This coming from someone who, no doubt, thinks Obamacare is communistic. Your own God has no qualms about slaughtering babies, and the Bible says nothing about abortion, so you can't argue that Sweden is a failed state based on biblical morals.

11/16/2012 6:02:56 AM


They're a failed state...because they recognize the rights of homosexuals.

Christian Conservative Patreit is a failed human being. FACT.

11/16/2012 6:04:48 AM


"communist health care" My brain is bleeding. I can't take the stupid.
People being healthy? That's commie talk! I wanna live in a country where only the rich are healthy!

11/16/2012 6:07:55 AM

Doubting Thomas

So, they have a really good standard of living, very little crime, are fighting no wars, and have a high satisfaction with life, yet their country has totally failed because they allow gay marriage and abortion? They've failed a lot better than the US is failing.


Most American "patriets" don't know spit about the world outside their own borders

I'll amend that to say that most American "patriets" don't know spit about the world outside the borders of their own state or county.

11/16/2012 6:24:16 AM


So despite it having extremely high marks in many quality of life criteria Sweden is still a failed state? What evidence do you have of that? Oh, because you said so. Well that certainly proves it.

11/16/2012 6:38:10 AM


I must say it's very nice to read all the good things you write about Sweden, and I feel proud of living here. Rather stupid, as my only "accomplishment" is to manage to be born here...

11/16/2012 6:42:22 AM


Just because Sweden supports many things that you disapprove of hardly makes it a "failed state."

All it proves, indeed, is that it is your values that would more likely cause a state to fail, because they are hopelessly outdated. It speaks for itself that a country can do the exact opposite of what you'd like to see and be a great success as a nation.

11/16/2012 6:43:00 AM

Mister Spak

"Sweden is a failed state. FACT."

The roads are paved, the schools are open, the elecrical grid is reliable, there is no starvation or plagues, but Sweden is a failed state. Somalia has no government intervetion, everyone has guns, all chairities are private, it's much better than Sweden.

11/16/2012 6:44:43 AM

D Laurier

How is Sweden failing on their "moral level"?

What is "the homosexual agenda"?

How does gay marriage hurt Sweden?

When did Sweden's healthcare become "communist"?

How is Sweden a "failed state"?

Seriously. A stable economy, a high standard of living, and a narrow wealth gap.
Show me the problem.

11/16/2012 7:19:02 AM


"Sweden is a failed state."

Last I checked, Sweden is doing quite well. In fact, it appears to be one of the more successful nations.

If anything, Sweden is a blueprint that other countries, particularly the U.S., should take a very close look at and emulate what has already been shown to work successfully.

11/16/2012 7:24:25 AM

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