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Simply put: This is what happens when Britain sells out her nation to humanists, atheists and MUSLIMS, and persecutes JEWS and Christians.Britain's social and economic decline started back in the 80s.

Norman Hill, RT 34 Comments [11/18/2012 4:52:08 AM]
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Leighton Buzzard

What is what happens?

11/18/2012 5:12:28 AM



Translation: "My childhood was the golden age, then everything went to hell."

In America, I've actually heard a conservative pine for the 70s. Yes, the nineteen seventies.

11/18/2012 5:28:35 AM

UHM

And I can tell you with whom it started:

11/18/2012 6:07:52 AM



@ UHM

Beat me to it.

11/18/2012 6:12:02 AM

Raised by Horses

Number of Christian presidents in US history: 43.
Number of (avoved) atheist presidents in US history: Nil. Nada. Zippo. Zilch.

Tell us more about how religious people are the poor, persecuted miniority in America.

11/18/2012 6:45:47 AM

breakerslion

History fail, and I'll take the Marshall Plan for the win, Alex!

Edit: @UHM: "Only Nixon could go to China."

11/18/2012 7:20:55 AM

Gloria

@ Raised by Horses

Commenting on autopilot, are we? The post has nothing to do with the US...

11/18/2012 8:56:56 AM

rubber chicken

Utter rubbish, Britain's economic decline began around the end of World War 1.
I can possibly agree with the idea of a social decline beginning during the Thatcher years, but i'd like to see some sort of definition of social decline first.
Jews have not been persecuted since medieval times.
Christians have NEVER been persecuted.

11/18/2012 9:29:01 AM

fishtank

You ain't living under the first Lizzy, one kind of christianity isn't punishable by death anymore.

So shut up.

11/18/2012 9:42:10 AM

Frostythesnowman

'There is no such thing as society' according to Thatcher, but she did her best to ruin it for many people anyway. So partially correct, although the economic decline can be traced back much further.

As for the Christian persecution bullshit, one or two examples might be useful.

11/18/2012 9:42:49 AM

Deep Search

(looking at the actual article) Wait. Really? That many Brits want to emigrate?

Can I immigrate, then? I'd still kill for their healthcare system. And I'd be surrounded by people with fancy accents. I call it a win-win.

11/18/2012 10:09:10 AM

lofgren

Actually I think it began a little earlier than that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_independence_movement

11/18/2012 10:11:54 AM

nazani14

Um, hasn't Britain always persecuted Jews to varying degrees? Burned up a bunch of them in York, always had an thriving anti-Semitic subculture?

11/18/2012 10:22:54 AM

Creedence Leonore Gielgud



Doo dah, doo dah.

11/18/2012 10:52:36 AM

Splinge

The sudden capitalisation reminds me of Mr. Crocker from the Fairly Odd Parents.

11/18/2012 11:30:20 AM

speccy4i

@ Gloria

Makes a similar point though. To my mind, there hasn't been a Prime Minister of the UK that has pronounced themselves as anything other than a Christian.

As for poor old Norman Hill, tough shit. Christianity has been coasting by on being the state religion for too damn long, and ever since other religions have been trying to claim their rightful slice of the pie, you're pitching a fit that there's not as much pie for you as their used to be.
Maybe I'm being a bastard but I long for the day when members of the Church of England dwindle to such a point that the idea of it being the state religion becomes hilariously outdated. And since they're about to split (again) over gay marriage and female bishops, that day is coming sooner.

11/18/2012 11:45:03 AM

Anon-e-moose

"Britain's social and economic decline started back in the 80s."

...when white, Christian right-wingers voted in Maggie Thatcher (*spit*), who - via her policies - ushered in the 2nd Dark Ages. Therefore not for nothing do I refer to her as the real Antichrist.

I have a bottle of champagne in the fridge, which I won in a charity raffle several years ago. I shall open it to celebrate one of two events:

1- When Fred Phelps finally carks it, removing his vile, inferior suhuman waste of DNA, oxygen-stealing presence from our clean, sacred, Atheist world, putting himself out of our misery.

2- When it's announced that - similarly - the real Antichrist Maggie Thatcher (*spit*) finally carks it, removing her vile, inferior suhuman waste of DNA, oxygen-stealing right-wing senile & loony presence from our clean, sacred, Atheist left-wing country, putting herself out of our misery. She is the main reason why I have a more than infinite hatred of everything - and everyone - right-wing.

Whenever either happy & celebratory event occurs? Place your bets...! >:D

11/18/2012 11:51:00 AM

Often Partisan

"Britain's social and economic decline started back in the 80s."

So long as you mean the EIGHTEEN Eighties, not too far away from the truth...(we used to be the best but then the Germans and the US caught up :( lol)

11/18/2012 11:59:29 AM

Bleep

Goddamned humanists!

How dare they respect the value of each person on an individual basis!

Its EVIL I TELL YOU!!!!1111!!!!111

11/18/2012 12:55:09 PM

Feral Dog

@ 1471121:
Most of my family tree is fundie Catholic or fundie conservative (sometimes both). They'd call 1970's guy a commie.

11/18/2012 1:13:02 PM

Old Viking

Norman's been persecuted for 30 years now. No wonder he's cranky.

11/18/2012 2:35:24 PM

UHM

Actually, I'd like to differ here. I see the end of the UK as a superpower ("The Fall of London" so to speak) with the American Revolution. Sure there were decisive victories afterwards, but more and more colonies became more and more independent, making the loss of power clearer and clearer.
As a good example of this would be Britain and France not being able to beat the unified German both times they tried, each time only after the US entered the war, the victories were accomplished.
The loss of the Indian subcontinent was a milestone in this, also because after that Brits simply gave up on having an Empire - and the math agrees to this day.
I think we can call it for the UK when Scotland secedes/becomes independent, also because than it's just K.

Now I put in the picture of Thatcher and Reagan as hyperbole, but in both the US and the UK the spirit of these neolibertarian Friedmannian economics wrecked the country, even though it was a short term success if you trust traditional methods of economic meassuring (GDP etc.), it still was a short time success. But in the long run it poisened the well of political ideas and radicalized conservatives in both countries on economic terms. Surely, the red scare is less pure in the UK - since having a long standing socialist and poor lower class makes it harder for it to be eradicated (relatively to Europe, the United States are agrarian) - but it is much more widespread than even Germany, and after all, "half" of that was ruled by communists for 40 years.
The main reason why they fucked up their countries is because the entirty of economic ideas was focused into a single ideology. It's the reason why no contemporary British politician has a good solution to the crisis - there simply is only one dogma - which fucked it up in the first place. The same has happend as in Germany, were both major parties have essentially the same economic ideas, the only difference being their social policies.

I have no idea what Norman means with social decline, but as he is crazy, I'm saying social decline means people he doesn't like are happier than before.

11/18/2012 2:40:10 PM

Meeeh

Oh Britain...

You are so funny...

11/18/2012 3:06:26 PM

Firthy2002

Have you just woken up from a 30 year coma?!

11/18/2012 4:35:18 PM

Raised by Horses

"Christians have NEVER been persecuted."

Actually, they were pretty much persecuted throughout the history of the Roman empire, until Christianity finally became the state religion. (At which point Christians, finally in power and free from oppression, could turn to the important matter of persecuting the wrong kind of Christian).

@Gloria

I got lazy, I admit. I glanced over the post, thinking it was yet another one of those diatribes we've been deluged with about moving to another country after Obama's re-election. But my point still holds. How many avowed atheists can be said to hold high office today, as opposed to avowedly religious people? Pick any country or government you like. I think you'll find the results to be fairly uniform.

11/18/2012 4:46:27 PM
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