Your grasp of US history in pathetic.
The North meddled in Southern affairs for years prior to the attack on Ft Sumter. Slavery was dying thanks to the cotton gin and harvester machines but the abolitionists kept the pot boiling. Also, the North and the Feds used economic sanctions on the South coming up to 1861. Kinda like the Feds do NOW when Obama takes 1.6 MILLION acres of “federal land” off of the drilling table.
How can the Federal government usurp the 10th Amendment, seize the lands of a State, and then prevent the State from developing the resources to the benefit of its citizens.
THAT is just one reason why I support secession.
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No Gunny G. you are the one whose grasp of US history is pathetic.
The cotton gin had been around for more than sixty years (since 1794) before the civil war started. Its use led to an increased demand for slaves in the South because more and more cotton needed to be planted, tended, and harvested to "feed the Gins."
The first successful commercial cotton picker was made by international harvester in 1943. Before and during the civil war there was no such thing as cotton "harvester machines," (although a patent was granted for one design in 1850 the machine was never put into production). In fact until the mid 1920s ALL cotton picking was done by hand without any mechanical aid at all.
Typical Wingnut all mouth and no brains.
Besides the US History failure, this intellectually vacant waste-of-space is upset that Obama doesn't want to destroy the environment for unnecessary drilling?
If these wingnuts had their way, every national park would be replaced with drilling & strip-mining, and to hell with all those endangered species.
It's not often you see such a complete history fail.
Slavery was NOT dying out. The cotton gin sped up the process of removing the seeds from cotton fibers. They still needed slaves to plant, tend and harvest the fields. Of the four million slaves in the southern states, half were involved in cotton production alone.
How can the Federal government usurp the 10th Amendment, seize the lands of a State, and then prevent the State from developing the resources to the benefit of its citizens.
It wasn't the state's land to begin with.
Alexander Stevens, Vice-President of the Confederacy, March 21, 1861:
"Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea [to the equality of races] ; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slaverysubordination to the superior raceis his natural and normal condition."
PS Cracker: Jeff Davis ran away from arrest dressed as a woman.
"Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth."
Alexander Stephens, Vice President of the Confederate States of America.
Do you still think slavery was dying? Are you willing to admit that it is you whose grasp of US history is pathetic?
Edit: Aw, someone beat me to it. By one minute! That's actually amazing.
Actually the cotton gin is what kept slavery from dying a natural death in the first place. Slavery was on the decline until the invention of the cotton gin. It was when cotton could be processed in such quantities that southern plantation owners changed their crops to cotton and used more slaved for the harvesting process.
Your grasp of history is pathetic.
"Keep your cotton picking hands out of my gin!" ~Eli Whitney.
Well yeah Obama has every right to decide that oil companies can't drill on federal land. As President of the United States that's his decision. If it were state land or private land that would be different, but as the leader of the federal government he can decide what happens to land that belongs to said federal government.
You need to retake high school history and government.
Domestic oil drilling has increased 300% under Obama.
Besides that, domestic oil drilling is done by private companies, and the oil goes on the WORLD MARKET to the highest bidder. We don't keep it here for our own use.
Oh, no, heaven forbid we nationalize our oil production rather than pay huge subsidies to private oil companies so they can make obscene profits!! THAT would be communist-socialist-marxist-maoist-fascist, and would make Glen Beck cry, wouldn't it?
" Slavery was dying thanks to the cotton gin and harvester machines"
Did one of your "the south will rise again" buddies tell you this lie in order to minimize the crimes against humanity that the south fought for and deflect the blame onto someone else?
Not only a fail at history, but also current events. Obama has been quite generous with drilling permits on federal land and I'm not aware of any state lands being siezed, at least not to the tune of 1.6 million acres.
Have you supported secession only since about Nov. 7, or since the black guy was first elected in 2008? I'd bet the thought never crossed your little mind in, say, 2004.
You claim slavery was dying, but it still existed. The fact that it existed in the first place was bad enough, but the Southern states still didn't want to give up their slaves by the time the civil war started.
Trying to justify slavery with "it was starting to die out by then" is no justification to keep it going.
"Slavery was dying..."
Yeah, that's why lynchings stopped before the war... Oh, wait... Um, never mind.
"Kinda like the Feds do NOW when Obama takes 1.6 MILLION acres of “federal land” off of the drilling table."
Last I heard there's four times as much drilling now than when Obama took office. But we should never let facts get in the way of a good right-wing talking point, eh?
"Your grasp of US history in pathetic."
I sense impending irony.
"Slavery was dying thanks to the cotton gin and harvester machines but the abolitionists kept the pot boiling."
Bull fucking shit! No wonder you think their grasp of history is wrong, you're from an alternate universe!
"Slavery was dying thanks to the cotton gin and harvester machines but the abolitionists kept the pot boiling."
And that's why you were all so very willing to set the slaves free, since they weren't needed for their labor anymore.....right? Right?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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