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Many early Christians practiced sungazing. It's a form of breatharianism or inedia (extreme fasting), where you fully abstain from eating or drinking. There are many Christians who believe Adam and Eve were originally breathatarians and sungazers (there was no meat before the fall).

Ratan Manek achieved no eating or drinking for 211 days via sungazing. Nicholas of Flue, the patron saint of Switzerland achieved fasting for 19 years. There are other accounts of where people have survived for very long periods without eating or drinking because of sungazing. Sungazing is not only apart of eastern teaching, but is something everyone was originally doing. How it was done however became lost like most other ancient knowledge. If you look up the accounts of Christian mystics who lived for tens of years without eating or drinking. How did they do it? They did it through the sun.

Cassiterides, Evolution Fairytale Forum 63 Comments [11/20/2012 5:12:31 PM]
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Deadly Vomit

Eyebeam Boy is back! So tell me Cassie, wouldn't your theory that one can draw sustenance from looking at the sun contradict your theory that our eyes are actually the source of the light by which we see?

11/20/2012 5:36:41 PM

Snarker

Or like most religious fundies, they lie to you to further promote their religion.

11/20/2012 5:38:46 PM

Reynardine

I suppose if you have green leaves, you can live like that.

11/20/2012 5:40:10 PM

I am the one who knocks.

I'm pretty sure you would be dead if you didn't eat or drink for 211 days, I don't care if you're some sort of superhuman, you wouldn't last that long. The human body can go 1-1.5 weeks maximum without drinking and about a month or so without eating. So yeah I'm calling bullshit on all of this.

11/20/2012 5:51:09 PM

Felix Wilde

Actually, for some reason, the people who lead fasting cults always seem to eat in private. But go ahead, Cassiterides. Prove us wrong.

Edit @ the one who knocks: This is a popular cult format actually, outside of Christianity too. I know it's hard to believe people can believe such stupidity, especially when their children die as a result... My father-in-law (a hippie) knew some members, and the leader, of one such cult, and saw her gobble down chocolates or bread when no one else seemed to be looking a few times. So New Age woo types fall for it too. I believe she was put away for something in the end anyway, thankfully.

11/20/2012 5:56:19 PM

solomongrundy

Wasn't Cassiterides ban-hammered over at EFF for posting stuff so bat-shit insane even creationists wouldn't buy into it?

11/20/2012 6:05:02 PM



maybe the christian mystics were just full of chlorophyl

11/20/2012 6:12:23 PM

LAchlan

That Australian woman "Jasmuheen" or whatever she calls herself springs to mind. James Randi offered her a million dollars to prove it. I'm sure I read that her hotel room was stocked with biscuits and cakes and stuff.

11/20/2012 6:15:04 PM

Papabear

"There are many Christians who believe Adam and Eve were originally breathatarians and sungazers (there was no meat before the fall)."

There are many people who believe all manner of ridiculous things. You folks can't even show Adam and Eve even existed much less that they were "sungazing."

"Ratan Manek achieved no eating or drinking for 211 days via sungazing. Nicholas of Flue, the patron saint of Switzerland achieved fasting for 19 years. There are other accounts of where people have survived for very long periods without eating or drinking because of sungazing."

Hogwash. "There are accounts" you say, but I say there are no credible accounts. I am interested in a strictly controlled experiment in which YOU fast for 19 years, though.

"Sungazing is not only apart of eastern teaching, but is something everyone was originally doing."

You proclaim so, but you offer no credible evidence. You might as well claim all saints brushed with Crest and Jesus wore Nike sandals.


I recommend you go though the sun.



11/20/2012 6:15:10 PM

LAchlan

"There are many Christians who believe Adam and Eve were originally breathatarians and sungazers (there was no meat before the fall)"
Yeah and they believe that dinosaurs were put there to test our faith. I wouldn't put any money on being able to not eat.

11/20/2012 6:22:16 PM

RTT

Sweet FSM, that boy is full of gold. Later in the same thread ...

"Regarding some scientific evidence against the speed of light, from what i remember when i studied science a while back i was told that light can not travel through a vaccum (as sound cant). Therefore i have no idea why people believe starlight travels through space. Astronomers knew this for many years which is why they were searching for some kind of aether."

Edit: I'm still sitting here trying to envision how an emergent universe would appear if his assertions were correct. Holy baffling BS Batman.

11/20/2012 6:27:54 PM

Rabbit of Caerbannog

@solomongrundy

Yes, he was too stupid for a web site called "Evolution Fairytale Forum".

11/20/2012 6:47:00 PM

farpadokly

"There was no meat before the fall". What about all the animals?
"the accounts of Christian mystics". Those accounts are most likely exaggerated.
Stare at sun= go blind. Don't eat and drink= die. Great advice.

11/20/2012 7:06:19 PM

Beltaine

At a certain level, I have no problem with him engaging in this practice.

11/20/2012 7:28:08 PM



@ LAchlan

Right. Like the I Love Lucy episode in which lucy staged a hunger strike, but had cold cuts and cheese hidden in between the pages of books ("page 23....bologna"), and a baguette stuffed inside the clock. :D



@ farpadokly

Supposedly there was no death before the fall, so Adam and Eve couldn't eat the animals.


11/20/2012 7:40:10 PM

myheadhurts

were these gazers green?

Swamp Thing is not real.

11/20/2012 7:42:02 PM

Esquilax

@Deadly Vomit Yes, it probably does contradict his previous statement, but let's be clear: this is a man to whom the idea of actually backing up his statements with facts, let alone keeping them consistent, has never even occurred.

Also... am I the only one who thinks 'breathatarian' should never be a word?

11/20/2012 8:11:31 PM

anti-nonsense

Please demonstrate this phenomenon experimentally using yourself as a subject.

11/20/2012 8:17:17 PM

Old Viking

Are the sun gazers the people who keep bumping into things when they move around?

11/20/2012 8:24:22 PM

Mike Litoris

211 days? I would have lied and said I did 212.

11/20/2012 9:34:48 PM

Raised by Horses

@Rabbit of Caerbannog

So he's either trolling, or he needs a jacket with longer sleeves.

11/20/2012 9:38:47 PM

Frostythesnowman

Yay, the village idiot returns! For those new to this site, take a look at some of the quality contributions that Cassiterides has made to the top 100.

As for this post, I think he may be confusing people with geraniums which, in his case is understandable.

11/20/2012 9:44:09 PM

Tempus

Hey, it's Mister Eyelazors!

Questions that will never be answered:

1) If we can see the world around us because our eyes generate beams of light, then why would staring at the sun in particular be any better for us than, say, staring at a baseball or a piece of driveway gravel? One would think that we would derive exactly the same benefits from staring at anything.

2) Conversely, given (1), why would staring at the Moon be any worse than staring at a bag of french fries or the Sun? Does the Moon automagically turn our eyebeams into something toxic somehow? Are you saying both the Sun and the Moon are fucking magic?

3) If we see by light emitted by our eyes and staring at the sun is actually *healthy,* why then does staring at the sun or the light (apparently) from an arc-welding machine fry our retinas? For that matter, why does standing outside on a hot summer day without a shirt or sunscreen result in our skin turning into so much blistered pepperoni? Do our magic eyebeams get that intense or what? Can we weaponize this effect?

4) If we see by light emitted by our eyes, what the hell is it that powers plants? Is there something staring at each and every plant to give it the light it needs? Why is it that plants placed in a dimly lit room eventually yellow and die, even if we stare at them on a regular basis?

PEW PEW PEW!

11/20/2012 9:47:03 PM

Bob J.

He was banned - this is a 2 year old post

11/20/2012 9:55:08 PM

Seeker Lancer

There was no meat before the fall yet god created predators and even gave us canine teeth.

I guess he was planning ahead, meaning he knew what was going to happen, meaning he would be a dick!

11/20/2012 9:57:26 PM
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