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(Regarding the woman in Ireland who died when a hospital refused to provide her with an emergency abortion)

We need a special law for this - after all one person out of 7 billion died that certainly is a justification for 50 million abortions. Since she was Indian, if the baby was a girl it should have been aborted just like in India where girl babies are murdered by the 10's of millions.

What is 10 million murdered babies compared with one woman's life? There are only 7 billion people on earth, we need to make a huge deal out of one death. Because we are stupid liberals unable to understand mathematics, or to compare things of different scales. We can't distinguish between 50 million babies murdered, many of them for the "crime" of being female, and one person dying in a hospital when sick. We liberals pride ourselves on ignoring mathematics, rational thinking, and science. We make decisions by emotions and hysteria.

SharnCedar, TheDailyBeast 59 Comments [11/21/2012 3:03:42 AM]
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ScrappyB

1.) The woman was having a miscarriage. The fetus was going to die anyway. The woman died a needless death because the doctors refused to speed up what was already inevitable.

2.) Babies don't become babies until after they're born, so it's not possible to abort a baby.

3.) You're a fucking douchenozzle for thinking clumps of cells are more important than a real person.

11/21/2012 3:52:19 AM

Wehpudicabok

Was there a point hidden under all of that bullshit?

11/21/2012 3:57:52 AM

LAchlan

"We make decisions by emotions and hysteria."
Yes, yes you do....

11/21/2012 4:03:26 AM

Danarth

No, cretin, 'liberals' pride ourselves on giving women a choice.

Do learn the difference.

11/21/2012 4:10:07 AM

fishtank

Nobody cares.

11/21/2012 4:13:05 AM

Filin De Blanc

Damn those hysterical liberals, being upset that a woman was allowed to die because a hospital didn't want to help her.

11/21/2012 4:20:42 AM

Leighton Buzzard

I'd bet you'd make a huge deal about one death if that one death was yours. Nobody else would, though.

11/21/2012 4:23:59 AM

Tempus

The fetus was a hypothetical baby. It was never going to become an infant, since it was already dead. It was not possible to save it.

The woman was an actual, real woman. She died very slowly and horribly, while doctors who could have saved her life essentially stood around and watched.

You are an imbecile if you cannot understand the difference, and a callous monster if you do and still conflate them. In neither case should you be allowed to dictate what kind of medical care someone else is allowed.

11/21/2012 4:25:15 AM

louislois

"We liberals pride ourselves on ignoring mathematics, rational thinking, and science. We make decisions by emotions and hysteria."

Projecting much?

11/21/2012 4:54:43 AM

michael3ov

" We liberals pride ourselves on ignoring mathematics, rational thinking, and science. We make decisions by emotions and hysteria."

Would you care to ask most scientists who they most closely align with politically? I dare you to go to the National Academy of Sciences.

This coming from a likely Fox News viewer. The world's leading innovator in the politics of fear.

11/21/2012 5:17:14 AM

Frostythesnowman

It's not a case of 'either, or'. This poor lady died needlessly because of the callous ignorance of people who worship a non-existent deity. One which she didn't.

The foetus wad already non-viable, it was not, in the sense that an ignorant god-botherer would understand it, an abortion.

But well done for slipping in a bit of racism with the rest of the misogynistic bullshit.

11/21/2012 5:18:54 AM

UHM

No... no... have to control myself... no - ah fuck it

SHE HAD A FUCKING MISCARRIAGE! THE BABY WAS GOING TO DIE ANYWAY, YOU GOD-DAMN FUCKING INHUMANE LUNATIC!

Ah, I feel better now...

11/21/2012 5:33:06 AM

Doubting Thomas

Such compassion. I bet SharnCedar would change their mind immediately if they or someone very close to them needed an abortion to save their life.

This totally reminds me of the tale of the man walking along the beach picking up starfish and throwing them back into the ocean. A man saw him and said, "What are you doing?"

"I'm saving these starfish. It's low tide and if I don't throw them back into the water, they'll die."

"But," said the second man, "there are thousands of starfish on the beach. You can't possibly save them all. What does it matter if you save a few of them?"

The man replied, "It matters to this one," and threw another starfish back into the ocean.

It all comes down to perspective.

11/21/2012 5:57:06 AM

Seeker Lancer

Fuck you SharnCedar.

11/21/2012 6:01:39 AM

Sheridan

And these people call themselves pro-life.

11/21/2012 6:03:05 AM

SpukiKitty

Ah...psychopathy, ethnic bigotry, misogyny, fetus-fetish, anti-Hinduism, self-projection/"mirror...shiny" & all-around douchebaggery all in one repulsive package!

Screw you, Cedar-Wood-For-Brains and find a nice huge inferno and take a nice dive into it!

11/21/2012 6:09:53 AM

Swede

She is hardly the only one; she's just a very public and recent case, where it was fairly clear that had the doctors hurried up the miscarriage, she would probably have lived to have many children in future. The fetus was already dying, nothing could save it.

If this is a rare case, it's because few countries have as strict abortion laws as Ireland does. In almost all other European countries they would just have hurried on the miscarriage and restored her to health, and that would have been it. She wasn't really sick to begin with; her body was just expelling a dying fetus; a thing that happens to thousands of women every day. When the miscarriage didn't proceed as it should, she became sick from the sepsis that the dying fetus caused.

There is nothing "only" about the 7 billion people on Earth; the Earth is dangerously overpopulated and we need to reduce the population (through natural causes), not increase it.

"We pro-life people pride ourselves on ignoring human suffering and promoting death penalties and wars. We make decisions by emotions and hysteria."
Actually, that is too much fixing, one word would be enough to remove.
"We pro-life people pride ourselves on ignoring mathematics, rational thinking, and science. We make decisions by emotions and hysteria."
There, now it's much more complying with reality.

11/21/2012 6:25:30 AM

Reynardine

I take issue with"liberals" and I take issue with "we". You got a mouse in your pocket?

11/21/2012 6:32:32 AM

The Crimson Ghost

I was waiting for this show up.

Don't you dare call yourself a liberal & then use that as an excuse.

This was horrible & unnecessary. If I were one of those doctors or nurses I would have tried to save her anyway. I would not be able to live with myself if I stood there & watched someone die like that.

You miserable bag of shit.

11/21/2012 6:56:51 AM

Mister Spak

There are only 7 billion people on earth, we need to make a huge deal out of one baby. Because we are stupid conservatives unable to understand mathematics, or to compare things of different scales. We can't distinguish between 50 million babies starving, many of them for the "crime" of being muslim, and one embryo dying in a hospital and taking an adult person with it. We conservatives pride ourselves on ignoring mathematics, rational thinking, and science. We make decisions by emotions, hysteria and the fear of making the giant man with a long white beard who lives on clouds angry.


11/21/2012 7:11:17 AM



Frankly, I don't give a shit if the fetus was going to die anyway or not. If the pregnancy was killing the mother and it was one or the other, the mother wins, period.


11/21/2012 7:13:22 AM

Reynardine

And congratulations, SharnCedar. You and that mouse in your pocket have just endorsed the death penalty for women who have sex with their husbands.

11/21/2012 7:16:48 AM

TheLastCenturion

scale? SCALE?!?! you wanna talk about scale?? hows this for math and scale

currently, it takes, on average, 1.8 hectares of productive land to feed 1 person for a year. there are 13.4 billion hectares of productive land on earth, and that number is decreasing

13,400,000,000 / 7,000,000,000 = 1.914 hectares per person

now:

13,400,000,000 / 1.8 = 7,444,444,444 people

What is an aditional 50 million babies people are unwilling/unable to care for? its about 10% of the theoretical maximum number of people the world can even SUPPORT. but then, you dont seem to understand scale very well so i dont expect you to completely understand.

11/21/2012 7:21:32 AM




Okay. Since you don't think one person is very important in the big scheme of things, step right over here, and let's put you on a table, bleeding out and dying for lack of a blood trasnfusion, with a doctor who's a Jehovah's Witness, who refuses your blood transfusion because his cult forbids it. He tells you you're just one out of 7 billion, so you should get over it.
Since that philosophy doesn't other you, I'm sure you won't mind.


"Emotions and hysteria" is when you assign the title of "baby" to a clump of cells and advocate for the death of a human being to save the clump. Plus, you people pulled that 50 million figure out of your asses, and you know it.



11/21/2012 7:23:32 AM

Noneofyourbusiness

Right. Because there's no way a law could exist that was specifically defined so that medically necessary abortions were legal and others weren't.

11/21/2012 7:38:00 AM
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