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[Concerning God's order to exterminate the Amalekites.]

Their descendants were just as bad Wayne. They were as corrupted as their ancestors.

"Even the little babies? Do you really subscribe to the idea that sin is inherited by generations of people?"

I have never said babies are evil, but they certainly are sliding down the side of the hill that has "sinner" on it.

What do babies do when they are young? They take everything and think it belongs to them. They scream to get their way, they cry for attention etc etc etc.

When a child is taught about God, then they settle down and stop doing bad things. So, children are not perfect angels right out of the womb.

This is EXACTLY what we would expect to see if sin is inherited and passed down from Adam & Eve.

Self-Mutation, Freethought & Rationalism Discussion Board 56 Comments [11/22/2012 4:28:49 AM]
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Diatryma

Please, please do not have any kids.

11/22/2012 4:36:55 AM

Leighton Buzzard

All religion is wrong, but some religion is more evil than others. You are definitely on the more evil side.

11/22/2012 4:47:46 AM

ScrappyB

They're not angels or sinners. They're BABIES. They take things because they don't know any better. They scream and cry for attention because they can't talk.

Go join Ronald Williams in the asshole corner.

11/22/2012 4:51:21 AM

dylanstrategie

So... killing babies is fine because they are "natural sinners"

But aborting fetuses is wrong because they have a right to live that is sometimes even stronger than the mother herself ?

I like your logic buddy...

11/22/2012 5:00:07 AM

Iczer-four


Do not breed! better yet. stop breathing!

11/22/2012 5:05:59 AM

C_V


freethought and rationalism? is it opposite day?


11/22/2012 5:17:10 AM

Esquilax

Wow, a fundie that has no empathy for anyone, to the point that he's unable to understand the simple motivation even of infants.

... Why am I not surprised?

11/22/2012 5:20:28 AM

gravematter

So are you saying that, say, autistic people are evil? They certainly have a hard time with the world outside their own existence. What about severely mentally impaired people? You're never going to be able to teach them about god, so are they also destined to be eternally sliding down the evil slope?

11/22/2012 5:31:40 AM

UHM

Not liking children because loud children make you go crazy is one thing - it's a whole 'nother dimension of anti-social behaviour that not liking them is because they are mooching of their parents.

11/22/2012 6:02:18 AM

Mike Litoris


11/22/2012 7:02:28 AM

Horsefeathers

"What do babies do when they are young? They take everything and think it belongs to them. They scream to get their way, they cry for attention etc etc etc."

That's what babies and small children do, you idiot.

"When a child is taught about God, then they settle down and stop doing bad things."

Obviously you're not a parent.

"This is EXACTLY what we would expect to see if sin is inherited and passed down from Adam & Eve."

People like you scare me.

11/22/2012 7:15:59 AM

KittyKaboom

"We're all born innocent - abortion must be outlawed!"

"We're all born evil and immersed in sin - that's why babies cry!"

Which is it; innocent and deserving of preservation (even at the expense of the mother) or sinning and doomed?

11/22/2012 7:16:14 AM

LAchlan

Go and hit yourself in the face with a hammer.

11/22/2012 7:21:25 AM

Rabbit of Caerbannog

Self-Mutation is a graduate of the Ronald E. Williams school of fatherhood.

11/22/2012 7:24:39 AM

Dr.Shrinker

I still think that Self-Mutation is a Poe, but this line of thought comes up enough to deserve a response.

According to Christian dogma, ALL people are corrupt from birth. To respond to the various genocides in the bible by saying, "it's okay, they were bad," ignores that fundamental point. The biblical god's decision to wipe out, or to order the wiping out, of entire populations because they were evil, ignores the dogma that the survivors/perpetrators were just as evil as the victims. Therefore, god's decision to slaughter certain populations and not other is, by definition, arbitrary.

So why does a casual, arbitrary murderer deserve praise?

11/22/2012 7:58:17 AM

Reynardine

No contradiction at all. Women were inherently evil because their vulvas were sin-magnets. Pregnancy and childbearing were the Lard's punishment for having these sin-magnets, and they weren't to be allowed to escape their punishment of occupation by this devilish spawn. But because the spawn was so devilish, neither should one be deceived by its appearance of innocence into treating it tenderly, nor honoring the mother for bringing it into the world. The ancient church fathers justified cruelty to both women and children through exactly this argument, and the modern ones are getting more and more forthcoming about it.

11/22/2012 8:20:51 AM

Darwin

Eat a grenade

11/22/2012 8:46:15 AM

SpukiKitty

SOMEBODY PLEASE SHOVE A LIVE GRENADE UP 'SELF-MUTILATION'S' BUTT, PLEASE!

11/22/2012 9:12:41 AM



So, by your logic, we should exterminate the humankind. You know, those kids will never reach adulthood.

11/22/2012 10:30:32 AM

nazani14

Born good? Babies help unlock the origins of morality

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50135408n%5D%3Cbr%20/%3E%3Cspan%20style=

11/22/2012 10:35:46 AM



neurologists would argue that the lack of mental development makes them extremely simple minded, and unable to understand or differentiate right from wrong, mine from your, etc.

they only know they WANT that shiny thing. they dont understand the concept of ownership

11/22/2012 10:37:01 AM

Sasha

(LAchlan) Go and hit yourself in the face with a hammer.

Keep doing it till we tell you to stop.

11/22/2012 10:59:45 AM

JSS

"And ma'am, your reason for wanting an abortion?"

"Well, I know my expecting baby is just sliding down the side of the hill that has 'sinner' on it. Plus, babies are inherently selfish, taking everything and thinking it belongs to them, screaming to get their way, etc. I feel abortion is the best path. My religion says children are inherently evil, so I know God would want me to do this."

11/22/2012 11:29:44 AM

WWWWolf

> What do babies do when they are young? They take everything and think it belongs to them. They scream to get their way, they cry for attention etc etc etc.

Other fundies are claiming Christianity is natural, intuitive, everyone is born a theist and God has given everyone, from birth, a deep-seated understanding of Christian morality.

Are you saying that *gasp* the evidence contradicts this?

11/22/2012 11:31:06 AM

anti-nonsense

It's because babies are too young to know right from wrong. They will "settle down" as they get older even if they aren't taught about god.

You probably shouldn't have kids.

11/22/2012 11:37:02 AM
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