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BARNESVILLE, Minn. – If you want to be a Catholic, you have to be 100 percent Catholic.

That’s the lesson one family here learned after their 17-year-old son was denied confirmation after the priest at the Assumption Church here found a pro same-sex marriage post on the teen’s Facebook.

The decision by the Rev. Gary LaMoine to deny the religious rite of passage for Lennon Cihak in mid-October shocked his mother, who said her son has gone to church every week and volunteered around the community in preparation for his confirmation this year.

“You kind of know the Catholic beliefs, but I never thought they would deny somebody confirmation because you weren’t 100 percent. I guess that’s what shocks me,” Shana Cihak said.

The Facebook post in question was a photo of Lennon in front of an altered political sign. Originally reading “Vote Yes” on the Minnesota Marriage Amendment, which would have changed the state’s constitution to define marriage as between one man and one woman, Lennon scribbled out the “yes” and replaced it with “NO!”

Shana, who said she was confirmed at the same church, was called into a private conversation with the priest soon after the photo was discovered and was told her son wouldn’t be allowed to complete confirmation.

Gary LaMoine, The Forum of Fargo-Moorhead, N.D. 75 Comments [11/22/2012 4:32:23 AM]
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Leighton Buzzard

I'd say the kid dodged a bullet.

Also, can you imagine if the RCC excommunicated all those of the faithful who have breached the teachings on abortion & contraception? There'd be nobody left.

11/22/2012 4:43:04 AM

Indicible

If we needed a confirmation (no pun intended) that the Catholic Church is still a dictatorship, we have another one.

11/22/2012 5:05:17 AM

dylanstrategie

Here's me hoping the teen will realize how bigoted the church is, and will either become atheist or a moderate christian

11/22/2012 5:08:52 AM

Deadly Vomit

I wonder if this would happen to someone who put a pro-death penalty post on Facebook.

11/22/2012 5:20:59 AM

farpadokly

Why hasn't he already been confirmed? I was confirmed when I was 11 I think.

11/22/2012 5:24:37 AM



Not really Fundie and certainly not "darndest" or "WTF". In fact refusing to confirm him is probably one of the nicest things the church could do for him.

11/22/2012 5:47:47 AM

Mike Litoris

Lucky little bastard!

11/22/2012 6:03:32 AM

UHM

I want the catholic church do have these practices everywhere and excommunicate everybody who doesn't ectirely follow what the Pope says including changing their own opinion withing seconds.

11/22/2012 6:15:14 AM

Justanotheratheist

Confirmation is just another wholly meaningless and empty ritual. So, who cares?

11/22/2012 6:16:51 AM

breakerslion

"Confirmation" is the Christianized version of the Bar Mitzvah. Both are an example of religion's unctuous insinuation into every life-changing event. In this case, the tribal rite of passage, which in modern life happens at 18-21, not 11-13. If the church claims ownership of these rituals, and no one disputes it... they own them - and it's big business!

The kid should invent his own rite of passage. Go sky diving or something, and screw the church.

11/22/2012 6:40:03 AM

Mayhem

I'm glad the church did this. I hope they continue to hold to these outdated and ridiculous views instead of changing to fit the times. Then maybe more people would see how stupid, pointless, and corrupt religion is.

11/22/2012 7:28:00 AM

Arctic Knight

That is the right of the church to decide who they confirm and who they don't, just as they have the right to decide who they marry and who they don't.

With that being said, homophobia in the church is morally reprehensible and I suggest these people simply stop going to church. Denying the church your tithes and offerings will have a positive effect in the long run.

11/22/2012 7:50:27 AM

Passerby

A round of applause for a young man not fully brainwashed.

I hope this is an epiphany rather than a crushing blow.

11/22/2012 8:04:17 AM

Argle Bargle

I guess the Catholic church wants to make itself even more irrelevant. Fine by me.

11/22/2012 8:41:25 AM

Canadia

@breakerslion

Totally. Skydiving through the roof of the church? Maybe not...

11/22/2012 8:46:26 AM

Grogs

Well, Reverend, there's a tithe you won't be getting in your collection plate every Sunday. You may lose his mother's as well now that she sees what assholes you are. Keep it up and you'll be closing the doors of your parish in no time!

11/22/2012 8:58:31 AM

JSS

Guess what Gary? Raised Catholic here. No I don't subscribe to all the beliefs and teachings that come out of the Vatican, bizarre or otherwise, nor does my family. This is true of the majority of Catholic laity. I think it was Bill Maher that said 63% of Catholics are actually for same-sex marriage.

Top that with the even more bizarre and intrusive teachings of the Church: their prohibition of birth control, their beliefs that cohabitation is "intrinsically evil" and masterbation "intrinsically disordered", that female or uncelibate priesthood is an abomination (and yet they have a nerve to complain about a priest shortage), and that missing mass is a one-way ticket to hell, and you have a mess of dead ideas you cannot reasonably expect an intelligent congregation to partake in. This of course is even before we scratch on the intrusiveness of attempting to force Catholic laity to determine their vote based solely on the laughable 'top five' method that has the audacity to compare gay marriage with four life/death issues including euthanasia, abortion, embryonic stem cell research and cloning. You best be joking if you think you can expect critical thinking Catholics (if that's not an oxymoron in terms) to subscribe to all of this.

Then of course we have the repulsive fear tactics of hell and purgatory, suggesting that so much as gossipers will be subjected to hundreds if not thousands of years of systematic torture, and the idea that hell is so hot that you can hear skin sizzle and pop (We'll have skin in hell?). Did I mention the babies? Oh how could I forget about them! The Catholic Church believes that so much as newborn infants are worthy of eternal torture due to the laughable-if-it-wasn't-so-disgusting doctrine of 'Original Sin' (well, until abortion is discussed and then they're the 'holy innocents'). Religious doctrine doesn't get any more repulsive and wretched as that, with the possible exception of the violent tactics proposed by radical Islam.

Such reasons are why I myself am an agnostic and a proud-to-be "Cafeteria Catholic". I can't help but be thankful that the majority of Catholic laity doesn't subscribe 100% to Catholic teaching, and therefore trust their own instincts over that of a group of "infallible" celibate men who can't even combat a sex abuse crisis within their own institution. I myself did recieve Confirmation, seven years ago, with a very conservative Catholic pastor, and even back then I didn't subscribe to all of Catholic teaching, nor do I do now.

11/22/2012 9:02:25 AM

SpukiKitty

Maybe Mom & kid should make the switch to Episcopalian.


11/22/2012 9:07:55 AM

mattiedef

Exactly when did confirmation equal brainwashing? Also hell descriptions are subject to interpetation in catholicism. I was taught it was cold, not hot. Apparently though some believe people can only go to purgatory and heaven, which is within teaching. Just the pope is currently insanely conservative and started backpedaling from jp2, who was just somewhat conservative.

Anyways, the church is within its rights to deny religious sancraments like confirmation. But reconciliation should allow him to take the sancrament.

The pastor is pretty damn conservative. My pastors have always been big on social justice and forgiveness.

11/22/2012 9:37:25 AM



The kid is better off without the approval of bitter angry old virgins.

11/22/2012 9:46:34 AM



Funny thing is that they haven't denied sacraments to people who are in jail for murder. If you're going to be 100% Catholic.............

































11/22/2012 10:22:05 AM

Often Partisan

*insert reference to pedo priests here*

obviously being pro-same sex marriage is more reprehensible...

11/22/2012 10:23:37 AM

JohnTheAtheist

Another catholic saved through reason. Now take the next step, boy!

11/22/2012 10:28:26 AM



Maybe now the kid will realize what ridiculous bullshit this religion is.

11/22/2012 11:05:15 AM

Creedence Leonore Gielgud

" If you want to be a Catholic"

I don't. Can't see how anyone else would.

11/22/2012 11:20:13 AM
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