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#1473823
UHM
So no teaching the controversy on these things?
11/25/2012 3:08:12 PM
#1473824
New Face of Rev
Something tells me that Linda Harvey and the truth are not well acquainted.
11/25/2012 3:11:23 PM
#1473839
Churchy LaFemme
"If the truth was being told about this behavior, it would be obvious why it should be discouraged and any teen struggling with these feelings would get the counseling they need."
Great idea, Linda! Let's add organized religion to that list of things they should be told the truth about. You know, things like: there's no more validity to current religions than there was to Greek, Roman or Norse religions.
11/25/2012 3:33:23 PM
#1473845
We teach our children not to stand around when others are bullied. They are to establish themselves as leader of the pack when that happens and reduce those who don't conform to my engineered societal norms to a crying wreck that I may offer their tears to my God.
11/25/2012 3:42:14 PM
#1473850
Creedence Leonore Gielgud
"We teach our children not to be bystanders if they see someone bullied"
Damn straight! A true Republican/Christian would be the ring-leader of that shit.
"For instance, should a school allow explicit pro-abortion t-shirts?"
The only reason to wear such a shirt would be to rustle the jimmies of people like you. People with brains know that a slogan on a T-shirt is incapable of summing up a complex issue, like abortion.
Anyway, it's not a school's place to decide whether or not free speech is acceptable. That falls to the courts, and they tend to rule against schools on issues of free speech.
11/25/2012 3:48:36 PM
#1473853
@ Churchy LaFemme
I dunno. I rather like Greek myths. Rather than being perfect or even worthy of emulation, their take on divinity involves the gods being just as petty amd pointlessly spiteful as the humans that invented them without glossing their douchebaggery over.
Except Hephaestus. He was awesome. Probably the only god that would be inspired after being one-upped by a mortal instead of throwing a lethal temper tantrum but never was as far as I read.
11/25/2012 3:51:26 PM
#1473913
Filin De Blanc
So if schools allow views on homosexuality to be aired it all, they should always be the views that agree with yours? Gee, who'd have thought?
11/25/2012 5:01:22 PM
#1473925
Aspergus
If the truth was being told about this behavior, it would be obvious why it should be discouraged and any teen struggling with these feelings would get the counseling they need.
The day I'm lectured on "truth" by the likes of Linda Harvey!
The sad "truth" is that the only reason homosexuality has certain negative traits associated with it is because of homophobia, both internal and external. You, Linda Harvey, are part of the problem, and that's the damn truth!
11/25/2012 5:21:45 PM
#1473935
John
For instance, should a school allow explicit pro-abortion t-shirts?
Wrong question in the US. The right question is, can a school legally prevent pro-abortion t-shirts under the First Amendment?
any teen struggling with these feelings would get the counseling they need.
70 or 80 years of experience have shown that such counseling is a worthless waste of money. Could counseling turn you gay? If you believe that, guess what: you're already gay!
11/25/2012 5:35:54 PM
#1473948
Dr.Shrinker
"If the truth was being told about this behavior, it would be obvious why it should be discouraged and any teen struggling with these feelings would get the counseling they need."
- Because telling teens that the feelings they can't help will only lead to a lifetime of misery and eternal damnation is NOT what they need. Especially since what you want to tell them is a lie.
11/25/2012 6:03:50 PM
#1473958
Thinking Allowed
So Linda, what should the schools teach?
11/25/2012 6:20:49 PM
#1473982
Seeker Lancer
Yeah we do everything we can to keep the blinders on it like not wanting to force rape victims to have to suffer through a state mandated ultrasounds of their rapist's baby along with a lecture about what a horrible person they are.
We're definitely the terrible ones!
Also "Teach the controversy but only when our opinion is the controversial one!"
11/25/2012 6:56:53 PM
#1473996
Felix Wilde
@1473853 responding to Churchy LaFemme: To be fair, the Abrahamic depiction of God isn't any less petty or imbued with human faults; they just insist it is. The ancient pagans were simply more honest about their gods' personalities. I agree regarding Hephaestos though.
Oh, Linda... If a school doesn't want to be ordered by the court to allow said t-shirt and thus see an influx of them being worn every day, they should indeed allow it. I'm guessing freedom of speech isn't something you're extremely aware of.
Keep those blinders on! Otherwise you may have to face the fact that outlawing abortion causes unnecessary deaths of innocent women. Most "liberals" I know aren't shy on abortion being a bad thing; they insist it has to remain legal so it doesn't get even more dangerous and harmful. Kind of like a teetotaller who can see why alcohol prohibition is dangerously stupid.
There is objective truth, right and wrong, but it's you who seem so keen on forcing those principles out of your schools. Like the objective truth of evolution, or condemning the objective wrong of bullying and dehumanising the other based on meaningless and arbitrary criteria.
You've been telling "the truth" "about this behaviour" for a long time now, so why isn't it obvious to everyone why we should enshrine bigotry? Is it because it always sounds like bitter lies?
11/25/2012 7:24:10 PM
#1474015
Raised by Horses
1. Standing up to bullying.
2. Doing what's right and defending our kids from harmful influences and ideas.
3. Silencing people who think that maybe homosexuality isn't a moral evil or a threat to human survival.
One of these things is not like the other things.
11/25/2012 8:40:04 PM
#1474026
JSS
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Yep, all one in the same...
11/25/2012 9:49:30 PM
#1474027
JSS
Double post.
11/25/2012 9:50:43 PM
#1474057
John_in_Oz
Snap! I was just thinking the same thing about Christianity.
11/25/2012 11:07:39 PM
#1474100
michael3ov
"because even most liberals know in their heart that abortion is a horrible practice,"
I don't like abortion at all. As a matter of fact I think most liberals dislike abortion.
What we dislike more is putting the imagined rights of a fetus or hypothetical before the rights of a thinking, breathing adult woman.
11/26/2012 4:26:56 AM
#1474117
Swede
Pro-abortion t-shirts? What about pro-democracy or pro-dollar t-shirts? Abortions are legal, just like appendectomies.
Left-handedness and, especially, tallness should also be discouraged!
11/26/2012 5:12:06 AM
#1474149
Mister Spak
" likewise responsible grownups should not be bystanders as children are presented harmful, misleading and increasingly corrupting ideas."
Thats why I act when fundies present harmful, misleading and increasingly corrupting ideas.
11/26/2012 7:00:23 AM
#1474163
Doubting Thomas
if schools allow views on homosexuality to be aired at all, then it always shall be to discourage this behavior and these false identities.
Because that's always worked so well in the past.
11/26/2012 7:14:24 AM
#1474354
The Crimson Ghost
Actually, Linda, most liberals accept that abortion is sometimes necessary & homosexuality is unchangable & harmless.
Someone needs to teach the truth about you, Linda. The truth is that you're a self righteous, arrogant bitch & the world will be a better place when you finally keel over.
11/26/2012 1:11:44 PM
#1474364
Pilotess
The only people I've ever seen wearing explicit abortion shirts or holding explicit abortion signs are the pro-lifers ...
11/26/2012 2:16:49 PM
#1474404
Old Viking
The t-shirts aren't likely to become an issue. No one is "pro-abortion."
11/26/2012 4:19:13 PM
#1474417
Dr.Shrinker
"We teach our children not to be bystanders if they see someone bullied..."
- No Linda, WE teach them that. YOU and your fans throw a tantrum every time anti-bullying education is mentioned because you see it as discrimination against your constitutional right to torment, harass and otherwise make miserable anyone who seems gay, or otherwise outside of your limited definition of "normal."
11/26/2012 4:47:59 PM
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