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Why do the planets not all rotate in the same direction. Why do they not orbit in the same direction. If there was a big bang center of origen it would be impossible to have different rotations and orbits as is the case.

Grandpa, Bbleforums.org 12 Comments [1/18/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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ez-c

If he's old enough to be a Grandpa, he should be old enough to understand that celestial bodies sometimes collide. (What kind of God would allow that?) A comet collided with Jupiter just a few years ago. Get a big enough comet/asteroid/whatever to slam into a planet, and you can change it's orbital characteristics.

Not to mention, the planets do all orbit in the same direction. (At least, the ones around our sun do.)

1/19/2006 5:19:26 AM

Crosis

See, it wouldn't be an explosion if everything moved in the same direction and velocity afterward ...

In fact, by conservation of momentum things *had* to fly out in opposite directions.

1/19/2006 5:54:01 AM

Sierra

Big bang center of origen? Is that anything like the Cosmic Microwave Background Aquinas?

1/19/2006 6:03:27 AM

moonbiter

The Big Bang was unfortunately named. Even when you ignore the sexual innuendo in the term, it makes the layman think it was an explosion from some central point in the universe. It was not.

On the one hand, I can sympathize with folks like this having difficulty with the concept. The origins of the universe are completely outside of our experience. It takes a whole lot of mental work to wrap your head around the subject.

On the other hand, if you are going to make arguments against it you really need to do that mental work and understand what you are talking about. Grandpa clearly hasn't and doesn't.

1/19/2006 11:11:13 AM

TDR

actually, moonbiter, the term \"Big Bang\" was a derogatory phrase coined to discredit the idea (can't remember who it was - anyone?) - so, yes, it's wrong.

1/19/2006 6:01:15 PM

King Spirula

TDR,
It was Sir Fred Hoyle that coined that term in a denegrating way, only to have his steady state widely rejected in favor of the 'big bang'..which is in fact a misleading term.

1/19/2006 7:43:02 PM

Darth Wang

Why would they all spin in the same direction?

1/20/2006 5:30:00 PM

The Last Conformist

@Darth Wang: Because they got their angular momentum from the original rotation of the solar nebula. The planets that don't spin in the \"main\" direction do so due to tidal locking (Venus) or collision (Uranus).

1/21/2006 12:54:13 PM

JM

...Fail.

6/15/2007 7:11:41 PM

Darwin

Grandpa, could you come over here please?

Yeah, over here...

No, closer...

Closer...

WHAP!

Aaaaah, now I feel better.

6/16/2007 8:32:38 AM

Quantum Mechanic

Why do people lie and then think they made an argument?

2/10/2012 12:53:07 PM



Hovind victim
The Argument is stupid and dates back over 40 years.
Fundie argument:
The big bang was spinning and EVERYTHING thrown off from it MUST spin in the same direction.
Fundie science:
Everything has done and does the same thing for eternity.
Fundie FAIL:
Shit happens is my Theory, and it's supported by all sciences as it never fails but for this one there is the OBVIOUS answer. Collision is a given.

Canadiest

2/10/2012 1:25:51 PM
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