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I am very interested in alternative medicine. It has in fact saved my life. But we need to use caution because some of these practices are connected to false worship and demonism. Tapping into other realms and allowing entities in is not something that a Christian wishes to do. Christian Mystics used to practice this? Christian Mystic should not even be a phrase. For more biblical information please see the tracts about Halloween posted on this board.

MamaElephant, Evolution Fairytale Forum 25 Comments [11/25/2012 3:27:03 PM]
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#1473871

Snarker

Whatever reality you've tapped into is certainly not the one of the rationale.

11/25/2012 4:08:53 PM

#1473900

Arctic Knight

"Christian Mystic should not even be a phrase."

You're right, all of those Xians that practice faith healing should be banned from engaging in such mysticism.

11/25/2012 4:46:04 PM

#1473901

Osiris

Hi there, I'm modern scientific medicine. I've saved billions of lives in the last half decade alone and am single-handedly responsible for nearly wiping out infectious diseases.

Seriously, you have to be pretty fucking stupid to look at something that works this well and say you want an alternative.

11/25/2012 4:47:20 PM

#1473944

Thinking Allowed

Creation Science should be a phrase either.

11/25/2012 5:58:25 PM

#1473945

rubber chicken

Alternative medicine saved your life ? Shame.

11/25/2012 5:59:22 PM

#1473966

myheadhurts

and just how is alternative medicine tested for demons? oh never mind, the a.m. crowd doesn't believe in testing.

11/25/2012 6:40:14 PM

#1473969

Seeker Lancer

So are you saying a demon saved your life?

11/25/2012 6:42:58 PM

#1473981

breakerslion

Take two Incubi and call me in the morning.

11/25/2012 6:56:00 PM

#1474001

anevilmeme

@breakerslion

That may be the best come back line in the history of FSTDT, bravo!

11/25/2012 7:45:01 PM

#1474029

Frostythesnowman

Alternative mediine saved your life? That's impressive. I spent 30 years in boring old 'real' medicine and not once did aromatherapy ever get someone's ticker going again. Presumably Satan threw a spanner in the works. He can be such a devil sometimes.

11/25/2012 10:03:43 PM

#1474046

John_in_Oz

"It has in fact saved my life"

I know what you mean.
Thanks to the hopes and prayers of his family, and homeopathic medicine, little Johnny fully recovered from his car crash, after only five surgical interventions.

11/25/2012 10:53:23 PM

#1474061

Mudak

I honestly don't know where to take this one. The first sentence here makes me think "here we go....." (As the refrains of Tim Minchin's "Storm" start echoing in my wars...) and then it moves closer to an anti- alt medicine slant not unlike when we see fundies bash astrology: right conclusions for the wrong reasons. But she never truly comes out against alt medicine.

11/25/2012 11:19:43 PM

#1474104

Hasan Prishtina

"Christian Mystic should not even be a phrase"

Not heard of Francis of Assisi, John of the Cross, Julian of Norwich, Teresa of Avila, or basically any major Christian thinker between Paul and Calvin. MamaElephant, learn something about your religion, please.

11/26/2012 4:43:25 AM

#1474123

AbsurdONE

I guess it's true what they say: if you believe in God, you'll believe in anything.

11/26/2012 5:45:13 AM

#1474134

Doubting Thomas

For more biblical information please see the tracts about Halloween posted on this board.

Because religious tracts are well known for their reliable fact-checking and total accuracy on all subjects they cover.

11/26/2012 6:09:25 AM

#1474141

Mister Spak

" For more biblical information please see the tracts about Halloween posted on this board. "

Biblical information comes from the bible. Tracts have only tract information.

11/26/2012 6:47:13 AM

#1474308

Mattiedef

@Hasan

Protestants don't believe in saints. Um, most actually. Sorry, not all. But Catholics and more liberal types (Which tend to believe in saints) are for evolution, so it's probably safe assumption to make that she's from the sect that doesn't believe in Saints, thus Christian Mystics are actually evil, evil people.

11/26/2012 11:30:25 AM

#1474309

nazani14

@ Mattiedef- How can anyone not believe in saints? Most of them were historically verifiable people, and a few were kings. Their miracles, that's another story.

Pretty much all the fundamentalist and evangelical sects practice mysticism to some degree, because they claim to have "direct experience" of God's presence, speak in tongues, get slain in the spirit and have other altered states of consciousness, see angels, signs from God, etc. Catholics seem to be more wary about such experiences, and will at least consider the possibility of the "mystic" being mentally ill.

11/26/2012 11:43:56 AM

#1474315

Ludd

Demonism? That's an ideology I've never heard of. Do the demons have a political party?

Oh and by the way, the Jesus character was clearly a 'mystic'.

11/26/2012 11:51:27 AM

#1474322

Sasha

If you're getting your biblical information from tracts, you need some brain floss stat.

I gave my friend, a Lutheran minister, some tracts once for an April Fool's joke, and wound up winessing a real-life meltdown. It would have been funny if she hadn't chased me out of her house.

11/26/2012 12:13:49 PM

#1474323

KittyKaboom

Tapping into other realms and allowing entities in is not something that a Christian wishes to do.

That's fine. I'll just commune with Quan Yin myself and be happy that your negative energy isn't there to ruin the experience. I'd rather be immersed in her kindness and comfort than the hateful spirit of your vengeful god.

Christian Mystic should not even be a phrase.

Indeed. Mysticism nourishes the spirit and the self. Christianity is an extensive list of arbitrary rules designed to control the sheeple. Your god no more loves his creations than I love cockroaches. In fact, he hates his creations so much that he condemns them for choosing their own paths, both spiritually and in life. There is nothing loving, validating or spiritually nourishing about him. Therefore, christian and mystic are oxymorons.

11/26/2012 12:14:43 PM

#1474333

tracer

"I am very interested in alternative medicine. It has in fact saved my life."

[citation needed]

11/26/2012 12:30:43 PM

#1474376

BlackMageJ

Wow, a one-woman fundie fight. "My ridiculous and unfounded beliefs conflict with my other ridiculous and unfounded beliefs!"

11/26/2012 2:56:35 PM

#1474393

Old Viking

It's painful seeing someone like this struggling for some kind of coherence.

11/26/2012 3:55:22 PM

#1474577

Ebon

OK. First off, there's no such thing as "demonism". The word you're looking for is "demonology" or, possibly, "infernalism". Secondly, your book bans everything to do with them because your god doesn't want to share.

11/27/2012 4:35:18 AM