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If you believe that light travels that means you start at the assumption of the intromission theory.

Starting at assumptions is not scientific.

And saying Einsteins theories are empirical is ignorant.

A theory = something not proven scientifically.

Definition of theory:

An assumption based on information or knowledge; a conjecture.

If that's what you think science is, then no wonder you believe in evolution.

Cassiterides, Evolution Fairytale Forum 41 Comments [11/25/2012 3:28:12 PM]
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New Face of Rev

Wow... just wow.

11/25/2012 3:32:40 PM



From a man who doesn't know how fucking time works, this is a barrel of laughs.

11/25/2012 3:33:32 PM

UHM

"Starting at assumptions is not scientific." Science is built on assumptions, the difference is that those assumptions are justified.

And look up the scientific usage of the word "theory",

11/25/2012 3:45:29 PM

steven

And i'm guessing that a book written 250 years after the birth of Jesus Christ by religious fanatics didn't draw assumptions and is factually backed up by proofs and evidence from many reputable sources.

11/25/2012 4:29:56 PM

Osiris

Christianity is based on the assumption that the Gospels of Jesus weren't just, you know, made up.

Either way we don't accept scientific theories because we just assume they're true. We accept them because they explain all the current data we have and so far nothing better has come along. No you can't prove a theory, but you can prove the facts the theory explains. Light moves, we can observe it. The only assumption you make is that the light whose movement you are observing actually exists.

11/25/2012 4:45:02 PM

Arctic Knight

the·o·ry [thee-uh-ree, theer-ee]
noun, plural the·o·ries.
a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena:

11/25/2012 4:48:08 PM

Jon

Scientific Theory =/= Wild Mass Guessing

11/25/2012 5:03:33 PM

John

Words have different meanings depending on context. For example, the word "line" has a completely different meaning to a football coach, a fisherman, a mathematician, a guy trying to pick up a woman and a telephone repairman. Same is true with the word "theory".

Layman's Definition of theory:
An assumption based on information or knowledge; a conjecture.

Scientist's Definition of theory: a well-tested explanation for all the relevant known data.

See the difference? Here's an analogy:

Layman's Definition of work:
The labor that is one's usual means of livelihood.

Scientist's Definition of work: The transference of energy that is produced by the motion of the point of application of a force and is measured by multiplying the force and the displacement of its point of application in the line of action.

Big difference. Deliberately using a word in the wrong context is a fallacy known as "equivocation".

11/25/2012 5:15:42 PM

New Face of Rev

Let's list the theories that Cassiterides has expressed a dislike of shall we:

Evolution
Heliocentrism
Relativity
Gravity
Germ Theory

If he's not a poe, then theirs just no hope for this guy.

11/25/2012 5:19:29 PM

Raised by Horses

You, on the other hand, believe that everything was magicked into existence by a divine intelligence (never mind where that came from). Not only is this not conjecture, it isn't verifiable or even falsifiable.

I pity you. Your educational system has really let you down.

11/25/2012 5:23:11 PM



I only know the sex meaning of intromission. I didnt know there was a theory or that light was involved ;(

in science a theory is ... oh why bother

ITS NOT A WILD ASSED GUESS ! moron

11/25/2012 6:04:31 PM

Seeker Lancer

Same old "I don't know what theory means in the context of science" dumb-assery with a sprinkling of "I have no idea how light works thus nobody does."

11/25/2012 6:41:32 PM

Berny

Light travels you fucking moron.
End of story.

11/25/2012 6:45:36 PM

breakerslion

"A theory = something not proven scientifically."

You don't get to define reality regardless of whether or not you're the craziest person in the room.

This is a fact. Now go to your room, and take that plastic bippy with you.

11/25/2012 6:52:43 PM

Conservative Atheist

We can observe light traveling directly:

http://phys.org/news/2011-12-trillion-frame-per-second-video.html

Also, if you want to screw with definitions, here is the definition of faith: "belief that is not based on proof."

Except fundies think that's a good thing.

11/25/2012 7:03:34 PM

anevilmeme

So Cassiterides, are you trying to prove you're nuttier than the Timecube guy?

11/25/2012 7:42:25 PM

J. James

This is just fantastic. Cassiterides is too lazy to scroll down and see there are two definitions to the word "theory," or he's simply Lyin' for Jeezus.

11/25/2012 7:50:11 PM

Reynardine

Scientifically speaking, you're not even qualified to put dressing on a word salad.

11/25/2012 7:59:28 PM

LAchlan

Mind you don't trip over your eyebeams there, ya fuckin mook!

11/25/2012 8:26:35 PM

Frostythesnowman

Ok, so if light doesn't travel, what does it do then? Does it email us to tell us it'll be along some time soon?

I wonder what Cassiterides does for a living?

11/25/2012 9:53:36 PM

John_in_Oz

If you used a Dictionary to get your definition, you will have seen a different meaning for the word.

That's the one you were supposed to use, dickhead.

11/25/2012 10:49:01 PM



So much stupid and so little time.

11/25/2012 11:49:12 PM

Mihangel apYrs

after reading this third entry I must assume he was "home-schooled" by a high school drop-out

11/26/2012 12:16:55 AM

Doubting Thomas

If Mr. Eyebeams doesn't think that light travels, then how does he explain shadows?

It's no use even trying to explain the definition of scientific theory to someone who believes we see things because we shoot beams of light from our eyes.

11/26/2012 6:04:24 AM

Swede

Layman's "theory" = scientific "hypothesis"
Scientific "theory" = layman's "fact"

The one who don't understand science is definitely YOU.

11/26/2012 6:10:39 AM
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