@rizwan1981 Yup, all women would die in hospitals because their babies would kill them medically. This is a real danger - it happens 1 out of 7 billion times. That's a real, significant danger to women everywhere. Because I'm a liberal and I'm too f stupid to understand even the rudiments of probability. My head is squarely where all liberals heads are - up my fanny. Where it seems logical, probable, that babies kill their mothers and without legal abortion all women will die. That's logical to me. I'm a liberal.
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dont pull mortality figures out of the air.
The real mortality rates for the us at 2009 are here.
"African American women suffer a death rate of 34.8 per 100,000 births in contrast to a death rate of 9.1 for white women and 10.2 for Hispanic women, according to the National Vital Statistics Report of April 2009"
Thats not horrendous but shows childbirth is a risk for the mother. In cases of extopic pregnancy , eclampsia and a few others the likelyhood of the infant surviving is low while the risk to the mother is high.
Of course having your wife and child die in the process puts you in Gods favor so I suppose thats a good thing.
A. They are not babies, they are blastocysts and embryos.
B. It is a "real, significant danger" if it's happening to you. Even more tragic in that it is an easily preventable death.
P.S. Removing your own head from your a&& should provide you with enough of a clear view that you could notice most liberals do not have their heads up their butts.
That statistic is clear bullshit and here's why. There are 7 billion people alive today, half of those are female, and only a fraction of those are capable of having children. So according to your statistic we should basically almost never see a life threatening pregnancy. Except we do. All more common than you would like to think. It happened this month, and in that case the fetus was going to die anyway. Any logical, reasonable person would have concluded that an abortion was the only option. Unless you're "pro-life", in which case the only option is unnecessary death. Why kill one life to save another when you could do nothing and have double the death?
I am in no way certain if you are using the word , "fanny", in the Ameriform or Britiform sense, but in either case, Sharncedar, you should try it, and get a better idea of what a stuck birth is like. (At a time when most deliveries were at home, most "stuck births" that did not end fatally for both did so for the neonate, since every attending physician carried decapitators and a big corkscrew, just in case a "destroying operation" had to be performed. If the decapitated head was left in the womb, it then had to be extracted piecemeal).
By the time she went looking for an abortion, it had already been determined as a certainty that neither she or the fetus would survive conception. Probability didn't factor into it, and your asspull numbers are way the hell off.
Instead of being able to save one life, the laws governing the medical system condemned them both to death. I guess adults just don't deserve the same rights to live as a clump of cells that has yet to attain self-awareness.
Now whose head is up their ass?
There are only 7 billion people on earth, we need to make a huge deal out of one baby. Because we are stupid conservatives unable to understand mathematics, or to compare things of different scales. We can't distinguish between 50 million babies starving, many of them for the "crime" of being muslim, and one embryo dying in a hospital and taking an adult person with it. We conservatives pride ourselves on ignoring mathematics, rational thinking, and science. We make decisions by emotions, hysteria and the fear of making the giant man with a long white beard who lives on clouds angry. My head is squarely where all conservatives heads are - up my fanny. Where it seems logical, probable, that babies kill their mothers and without legal abortion all women will die. That's logical to me. I'm a conservative.
> it happens 1 out of 7 billion times <
NO.
It happens about once a minute . That's over 1000 times a day , and about half a million times a year . Very roughly, 1% of women die from complications from pregnancy .
Only 10%-20% of those would be saved by aborting the pregnacy. But that's still tens of thousands of women dying unnecessarily every year because abortions aren't performed. Most of those cases result from lack of access to medical care. But cases like Savita Halappanavar happen on a weekly basis in places where the only obstacle to saving their lives is doctors refusing to do their jobs. There is a problem there.
Information from World Health Organization Maternal Mortality reports, as indexed by Wikipedia.
Where the f**k did you get that figure from? Hundreds of thousands of women die during pregnancy and delivery each year, hundreds die each day. We don't have to rely on probability, we can check actual facts.
All liberal heads are up YOUR fanny? No wonder you seem disturbed and too preoccupied to actually think.
Most women never have an abortion, stupid! Most people think abortions are bad, but maybe not as bad as the alternatives; bringing a badly deformed baby into the world, or letting both the woman and the fetus die when you can save the mother with an abortion, or letting a child who no-one will care for be born, only to starve to death in five years.
As I'm no Liberal, I'm a Socialist, I don't know exactly how a Liberal thinks, but I'd guess human rights and freedoms are rather important to most Liberals.
When you offer to take care of the millions of kids in the world who are not cared for or starving, then I might listen to you. Maybe...
[If abortion were widely available] Yup, all pregnancies would be terminated because women would get abortions they don't need. This is a real danger - it happens one in every super-squillion-jillion times. That's a real, significant danger to mindless clumps of organic matter everywhere. Because I'm a cryptofascist and can't understand even the rudimentary concepts of probability, like that calculations must be based on data. My head is where all theocrat imbecile heads are - up my arse, which makes pulling statistics out of there really easy! Where it seems logical, probable, that removing dead and decomposing remnants of a miscarried pregnancy is murder, while refusing to do so and allowing the young woman to die horribly is morally just, and with legal abortion no more babies will be born. That's logical to me. I'm an American Conservative Christian.
All things aside, I cannot fathom how this cunt has never heard of someone dying from complications of pregnancy or childbirth before. That's why phrases like "died in childbirth" exist: because it's common and everryone understands the idea. Unless they're intentionally ignorant evil cunts, that is.
You mean only one out of more births than THERE ARE CURRENTLY LIVING PEOPLE ON THE PLANET EARTH was life threatening?
Wow that lady in Ireland sure was unlucky!
No wait, you're a fucking asshole.
Once out of seven billion times? So it's only happened once in recent history, seeing as how there are just under 7 billion people alive now, only half of them female? That would be my sister-in-law, who a few years ago had an ectopic pregnancy and surely would have died had she not had it removed.
Confused?
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