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Why Christianity is real:

-Evolution is logically impossible because nothing good can be caused by explosions.If I would put a dynamite in a car, would there be many small car-toys? No, it will blow into pieces.

-And if the Big Bang, the planet or star, whatever, exploded, all planets would have a similar look and materials as it. If it exploded, then how water came? It spawned? Or something? The Sun, has more then 90% hydrogen and helium, while the Earth has less then 1%. If it all comes from the same thing, then it would be similar, but it isn't.

-The evolution is just a theory, but in the Bible we read that Christianity is real.It's just a thinking of a single man.

-The evolution theory violates the second law of Thermodynamics, which states "Things are getting older, loosing their potential over time". But in evolution, species mutate to better species, which VIOLATES, IT, while in the Bible we read that Earth will be destroyed, which confirms it.

-From where Big Bang came? What created it? Something must create something, but in evolution, it is beyond belief...

Milan45, Christian Forums 72 Comments [11/27/2012 12:23:29 AM]
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J. James

"And if the Big Bang, the planet or star, whatever, exploded, all planets would have a similar look and materials as it. If it exploded, then how water came? It spawned? Or something? The Sun, has more then 90% hydrogen and helium, while the Earth has less then 1%. If it all comes from the same thing, then it would be similar, but it isn't."

I could point out that gaseous hydrogen and helium are lighter than air and as such are not constrained in Earth's atmosphere because the gravity is not strong enough. I could point out that hydrogen is massively abundant anyway(unlike noble helium, that shit bonds to everything). I could point out that water does indeed just "spawn" from an explosion, because that's what explosions fucking produce. I could point out that the very idea that everything must be the same because it comes from an explosion is massively retarded. But at this point I'd be wasting my breath.

"Evolution is logically impossible because nothing good can be caused by explosions.If I would put a dynamite in a car, would there be many small car-toys? No, it will blow into pieces."

Notwithstanding the fact that evolution has not a fucking thing to do with the Big Bang in the first place, your example cannot be linearly extrapolated to predict behaviors at this scale, complexity and timeframe. It's like using a falling tree to justify Controlled Demolition Theory. The analogy simply doesn't apply and has no predictive or explanatory power. In short, you're a fucking moron.

"The evolution theory violates the second law of Thermodynamics, which states "Things are getting older, loosing their potential over time". But in evolution, species mutate to better species, which VIOLATES, IT, while in the Bible we read that Earth will be destroyed, which confirms it."

Whoever said that things aren't getting older and losing potential over time? And whoever said that evolution is incompatible with this law? It's like saying that no parties will ever happen if you put frat boys, pizza, beer and prostitutes in a sealed room because in the morning everything is always going to be a mess. You're completely ignoring what goes on in the interim- in this case, evolution. Perhaps a better explanation would be that the Second Law only accounts for the TOTAL energy, and has no bearing on things that defer greater disorder to create pockets of order.

"From where Big Bang came? What created it? Something must create something, but in evolution, it is beyond belief..."

That's weird, I thought that the Second Law ensures that the universe is pretty much a zero-sum game to begin with and therefore can indeed come from "nothing" because it IS "nothing"- just in two extremes of positive and negative. What WOULD smell like bullshit would be if there was significantly more positive input in making the universe than negative- such as an outside source building it into existence. Oh, wait, that's what YOU think. What was that Second Law you were bitching about again? Hypocrisy much? Oh, and by the way, where did this "God" guy come from, genius?

"The evolution is just a theory, but in the Bible we read that Christianity is real.It's just a thinking of a single man."

What.

11/27/2012 12:37:52 AM

Wehpudicabok

Evolution, Christianity, and explosions: no two of these have anything to do with each other.

To learn about the history of the composition of the Earth's surface, go find a book on the formation of the solar system. It's all in there. It also has nothing to do with biological evolution.

You misunderstand the Second Law. It actually states that entropy in a closed system tends to increase. Earth isn't closed and evolution does not cause decrease in entropy.

If evolution were false, this would not make Christianity automatically true. Some other idea could be true.

Evolution is a "theory" in the technical sense, which is not "guess" so much as "explanation."

There are probably more errors I have missed.

11/27/2012 12:40:05 AM

Indicible

"-Evolution is logically impossible because nothing good can be caused by explosions.If I would put a dynamite in a car, would there be many small car-toys? No, it will blow into pieces. "

Yes, and you can use the pieces to build something else.

"And if the Big Bang, the planet or star, whatever, exploded, all planets would have a similar look and materials as it. "

Nope. In an explosion, not everything is sublimated and even then, the parts may not equalize their components: you can have soot somewhere and none elsewhere.

"-The evolution is just a theory, but in the Bible we read that Christianity is real.It's just a thinking of a single man."

Circular reasoning is comforting. For you. Much less for the rest of humanity.

"in evolution, species mutate to better species"

Nope. Adapted, yes, better, no. Nature does not give a crap about our standards of quality.

"From where Big Bang came? What created it? Something must create something, but in evolution, it is beyond belief..."

And it has jack to do with evolution.
While we are on it, yes, this is a answer atheist do not have. Which does not mean you are right.

11/27/2012 12:43:48 AM

Gawd

First off it's "less thAn" and then you need to learn the difference between "lose" and "loose". Like it or not, you are judged by the way you speak and write. The other FSTDT posters will now tell you about the 2nd law, how the Big Bang is wholly unrelated to evolution, and all the other tired crap from your post that still isn't true all these decades later.

11/27/2012 1:23:11 AM



+1 to J. James

I couldn't even get past Earth has less than 1% H... still can't.

11/27/2012 1:49:20 AM

chaosof99

I find it funny that under the heading of "Why christianity is real" he only provides (bad) arguments in an attempt to refute big bang cosmology and evolution. The only argument he gives for christianity theology being real is that christianity asserts that it is real.

11/27/2012 2:17:47 AM

Prager

Who let the 4-year old pound on the keyboard?

11/27/2012 2:25:36 AM

UHM

We need to have a science teacher speak after every priest. Holy fuck is that stupid...

11/27/2012 2:37:50 AM

anevilmeme

You don't understand any science therefor Christianity is real? That's your argument? Wow.

11/27/2012 3:46:30 AM

Leighton Buzzard

And WTF has any of that got to do with Christianity?

11/27/2012 3:47:52 AM

freako104

You didn't prove Christianity but that you don't understand evolution nor big bang

11/27/2012 3:53:18 AM

Hasan Prishtina

Where in the Bible does it say that Christianity is real? Where, for that matter, does it mention Christianity?

11/27/2012 3:53:26 AM

shykid

You didn't prove Christianity; you proved your own ignorance.

11/27/2012 3:58:00 AM

Ebon

Are you trolling or just fucking high?

"Evolution is logically impossible because nothing good can be caused by explosions"

A) the Big Bang has nothing to do with evolution, B) it wasn't an explosion but a sudden expansion.

"And if the Big Bang, the planet or star, whatever, exploded, all planets would have a similar look and materials as it"

No, that's just wrong.

"The evolution is just a theory, but in the Bible we read that Christianity is real.It's just a thinking of a single man. "

My holy book says that my faith is real too. Evolution isn't "just" a theory, it's a theory which is supported by ALL of the evidence.

"The evolution theory violates the second law of Thermodynamics"

No, wrong. The second law applies only to closed systems which the earth isn't.

"From where Big Bang came? What created it? Something must create something"

What created god?

11/27/2012 4:13:41 AM

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11/27/2012 4:21:25 AM

Sammettik

Five P.R.A.T.T.s in one.

Congratulations. Here's your dunce cap.

[Edit: I gotta make a note not to hit refresh on this site again]

11/27/2012 4:22:05 AM

Sammettik


11/27/2012 4:24:01 AM

farpadokly

"Nothing good can be caused by explosions": Firewood. Scrap metal.


11/27/2012 4:25:45 AM

Chris

"The evolution theory violates the second law of Thermodynamics"

Nine years I spent studying engineering. Nine fucking years and this prick can't even be bothered to learn the difference between a closed and an open system.

11/27/2012 4:33:33 AM

Sheridan

You would think that, after a while, fundies would realize that their same old tired arguments aren't working. They keep going at it and then wonder why people think they are morons.

This does not prove that Christianity is "real", it just proves how ignorant you are of basic science.

11/27/2012 5:16:08 AM

Frostythesnowman

Explosions? Why the fuck do you think evolution has anything to do with dynamite?

I think life's too short to answer any scientific questions for this person, but I'm quite thrilled to think that we may have another Supersport to play with!

Oh, and the bible wasn't written by a single man. Sorry.

11/27/2012 5:17:47 AM

Tolpuddle Martyr

Just so you know.

"... nothing good can be caused by explosions. If I would put a dynamite in a car, would there be many small car-toys? No, it will blow into pieces.

Say it slowly. Internal. Combustion. Engine.

Combustion = boom, boom make pistons go turn car-wheels. Not...blow...up...car.

*billions of facepalms*

11/27/2012 5:52:15 AM

Grimsoncrow

It is actually painful to read this...

11/27/2012 5:55:24 AM

Mithras

"Nothing good can be caused by explosions."

Do you know how your car works?

11/27/2012 5:58:50 AM



1. Evolution is not caused by explosions.
2. The big bang is nothing to do with stars or planets exploding. Learn what something is before attempting to refute it.
3. So is gravity. Please float away.
4. No it doesn't.
5. You already established that you don't know what the big bang is.

Fail on all points.

11/27/2012 6:44:48 AM
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