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Giving the vote to women in 1920, and children in the 1971, has transformed the vote from something that a man did with the understanding of his responsibility, to a form of “personal expression” or communication with the cool crowd.

Ann Barnhardt once made on her blog a strong case against women’s suffrage (her blog posts aren’t searchable or linkable, so you’d have to email her for it). One of the points she made was that when it was one man, one vote, it was really “one family, one vote”. Back then it was normal to be more-or-less an adult by age 21, and typically a voter was thinking about how his vote would affect the future for his family. A major reason the Democrats supported women’s suffrage was to reduce the power of families. With men usually voting for the intellectual reasons of the conservative and women usually voting for the emotional appeals of the liberal, families canceled each other out and an enormous amount of political power was transferred to the young, single, and stupid. The 26th amendment just made this worse.

Perhaps it is silly to be talking about suffrage two days after our republic has had its final election, but this is food for thought when we re-build new civilization(s) out of the rubble. Men (adult men) (who are married to women) (and are fathers) have a duty (not an unfair “privilege”) to take the lead in our families and in the nation.

joeclark77, John C. Wright's Journal 42 Comments [11/27/2012 4:34:24 AM]
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Ebon

Ann Barnhardt is fucking certifiable and if you listen to her drivel (and I can tell you do), so are you.

11/27/2012 5:00:12 AM

Filin De Blanc

So basically your case against women's suffrage is "women don't vote the way I want". Well, tough tits. Since when were you entitled to take away the vote from an entire group of people just to get your way?

11/27/2012 5:09:27 AM

Reynardine

Filin: that's how all authoritarians think.

11/27/2012 5:12:50 AM

beehummingbird

"typically a voter was thinking about how his vote would affect the future for his family"

So women don't think about how their vote affects the future for their families?

11/27/2012 5:13:39 AM

OhJohnNo

This is more than just misogyny - this is sexism against both genders. What about the men who just aren't cut out to "lead our families and the nation" - they're screwed too, right?

"Seperate spheres" has never been a good idea.

11/27/2012 5:37:33 AM

Bleep

Why does this make me think of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxY9rZwNGU

11/27/2012 5:56:21 AM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

Joe's still butt-hurt because Obama won the majority of votes from women and young people.

Hope he enjoys much more butt hurt in the future.


11/27/2012 6:01:24 AM

Titania

Your entire post is silly.

11/27/2012 6:06:57 AM

michael3ov

http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fil:1916_Electoral_Map.png

The 1916 electoral map. That is a whole lot of men supporting a progressive candidate.

11/27/2012 6:43:25 AM

michael3ov


11/27/2012 6:46:45 AM

Dr.Shrinker

"With men usually voting for the intellectual reasons of the conservative and women usually voting for the emotional appeals of the liberal,..."

- So a vote for George Bush was an intellectual one while a vote for FDR over Hoover was an emotional one? Frankly son, your opinion on what constitutes 'intellectual' isn't worth squat!

11/27/2012 6:53:09 AM

Mister Spak

Let's allow only women to vote and watch John C. Wrights neck break from the high speed flipflop.

11/27/2012 7:01:20 AM

Horsefeathers

"A major reason the Democrats supported women’s suffrage was to reduce the power of families."

Exactly!

Either that or it was because you can't actually have a democratic system when 50% of the voting age population can't actually, you know, vote.

"Perhaps it is silly to be talking about suffrage two days after our republic has had its final election, but this is food for thought when we re-build new civilization(s) out of the rubble."

Oh, you've started?

I hadn't noticed over all of the whining and temper tantrums your side has been throwing.

"Men (adult men) (who are married to women) (and are fathers) have a duty (not an unfair “privilege”) to take the lead in our families and in the nation."

Fuck you.

Go be all "manly" on your own time and leave everyone else alone.

11/27/2012 7:51:34 AM

The Crimson Ghost

Still whining I see.

Keep it up; it's great comedy.

11/27/2012 7:54:47 AM

Doubting Thomas

Anyone else catch the misogyny of "Women just aren't responsible voters because they don't use logic or reason when voting?"

What about my in-laws who vote only for the most pro-life candidates? That's a man voting based on emotional appeals from conservatives and a woman voting strictly for Republicans (since she thinks all Democrats are pro-abortion).

11/27/2012 7:58:45 AM

Leighton Buzzard

Makes you wonder how Woodrow Wilson ever got elected in the first place ...

11/27/2012 8:04:22 AM

anti-nonsense

if you want to see people that don't use logic and reason to vote, you should look at every fucking conservative Christian ever.

11/27/2012 8:15:14 AM

dionysus

And since when does the father automatically speak for the entire family? If the mother and the sons and daughters of voting age are all liberal and the father is conservative then how exactly is he representing the family by voting conservative? Even if you wanted one vote per family you'd still have to have every eligible member vote and then have the majority within the family decide how the vote will go. Having only one person decide for everyone else even when all other people want something else is just plain tyranny.

11/27/2012 8:19:42 AM

fmitchell

Restricting the vote to male married landowners with children isn't enough. There should also be a test all prospective voters must take to prove they're responsible enough to vote. Let's make it simple, though, so only one question: "Do you cast your vote for the Official Republican Tea Party candidate endorsed by Fox News?" Failure to answer "Yes" automatically disqualifies the voter.

11/27/2012 8:20:28 AM

Papabear

Right, because all women and 18-20 y/o males don't have any understanding of their responsibilities. Shut your poor-loser pie hole. You're just angry because many women and young persons didn't support your shallow rich guy for president.

11/27/2012 8:53:45 AM

Dr.Shrinker

With regards to the 19th amendment: that was more than 90 years ago. Women are not going to give up their right to vote. Its a reality, and you, Ann Barnhardt and the love-shy/spearhead groupies all need to get used to it.

As for the 26th amendment, I was around when that one was passed. 18 year boys were being sent off to die in the war, but they had no legal say in the government that was sending them. Even the most hard-core conservatives had a hard time denying that was BS. The passage of the amendment was an acknowledgement of the realities of the time.

But then, given your comment about America's "final election," its pretty clear that you have no particular use for reality.

11/27/2012 9:06:00 AM

Deep Search

These men were voting for the good of society, their families, and not for what would benefit them most? Truly these are amazing men, indeed. They would never take advantage of women or other minorities or stall progressive movements to cling to power... Surely, never.

11/27/2012 9:23:20 AM



Yeah, that whole, "women aren't capable of logic and are ruled by their emotions and feelings" bullshit didn't stop us from getting the vote in 1920, so you should probably give it up already.

Not to mention, your male "logic" prompted you to vote for Reagan, two Bushes, McCain and Palin, and Romney/Ryan, so STFU.

And when you're using your Social Security and Medicare, say thank you to the women who helped vote it in for you.

11/27/2012 9:48:12 AM



Conservatives? Intellectual? Really?

11/27/2012 9:55:39 AM

Sasha

If you're so afraid of your fellow citizens who are either female or younger than you, Become An Hero, 'cause the future is gonna be more of the same.

11/27/2012 10:37:40 AM
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