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Today, in the city of Gao, 39-year-old singer Bintu Aljuma Yatare no longer listens to music on her phone. The Islamists will confiscate it, she said. Five musicians in her band have fled to neighboring Niger; two others are in Bamako. She cannot leave because she has to take care of her aging parents.

Every evening, she risks being sent to prison: She shuts the windows and doors of her house and sings in her native Songhai language. “Sometimes I lie in my bed and hum my songs softly,” she said. “The only way for me to survive this nightmare is through music.”

The other day, she wrote a song about the drivers who take people out of northern Mali to safer pastures.

For reggae musician Alwakilo Toure, his home in Gao was not a sanctuary. He was strumming his guitar when six armed militants barged into his compound. With guns pointed at his head, one Islamist grabbed the guitar and smashed it to bits with his foot. “The guitar was my life,” Toure recalled. “I had nothing else to do.”

Two weeks later, he fled to Bamako.

In a telephone interview, one of the Islamists’ top commanders declared that his fighters would continue to target musicians.

“Music is against Islam,” said Oumar Ould Hamaha, the military leader of the Movement for Oneness and Jihad in West Africa, one of the three extremist groups controlling the north. “Instead of singing, why don’t they read the Koran? Why don’t they subject themselves to God and pray? We are not only against the musicians in Mali. We are in a struggle against all the musicians of the world.”

Oumar Ould Hamaha, et al., The Washington Post 63 Comments [12/6/2012 4:44:29 AM]
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Paler_Face

why don’t they read the Koran?

Because it is in a language that they probably can't read (ancient arabic), and if they could, it would be cloroform in print.

Why don’t they subject themselves to God and pray?

Because many of them are not muslims? Or at least not your kind of extremist fundie.

We are in a struggle against all the musicians of the world.

"Bring it."
-- the rest of the world --

12/6/2012 4:50:58 AM

ScrappyB

Sometimes I wonder if the Christian fundies and the Muslim fundies are in some kind of contest to see who hates harmless enjoyment the most.

12/6/2012 4:55:10 AM

Da Rat Bastid

(OP)
"We are in a struggle against all the musicians of the world."


Where are the members of Aerosmith when we need them?

(50 points to whomever gets that reference.) *grin*

12/6/2012 5:06:50 AM

fishtank

I guess if someone ever exposed them to black metal their heads would explode to general applause.

What kind of empty people do that... at least puritans were allowed to sing hymns.

12/6/2012 5:11:37 AM

OhJohnNo

Didn't Rush do a lengthy suite about, essentially, this very concept? 2112, I believe.

'...Behind my beloved waterfall, in the little room that was hidden beneath the cave, I
found it. I brushed away the dust of the years, and picked it up, holding it reverently in
my hands. I had no idea what it might be, but it was beautiful...'

'...I learned to lay my fingers across the wires, and to turn the keys to make them sound
differently. As I struck the wires with my other hand, I produced my first harmonious sounds
and soon my own music! How different it could be from the music of the Temples! I can't wait
to tell the priests about it!...'

'...In the sudden silence as I finished playing, I looked up to a circle of grim,
expressionless faces. Father Brown rose to his feet, and his somnolent voice echoed
throughout the silent Temple Hall...'

'...Instead of the grateful joy that I expected, they were words of quiet rejection!
Instead of praise, sullen dismissal. I watched in shock and horror as Father Brown ground
my precious instrument to splinters beneath his feet...'


12/6/2012 5:24:01 AM

Sheridan

Once again fundies prove that soulless people really exist.

12/6/2012 5:33:14 AM

UHM

There's a documentary in there somewhere.

I'm never quite sure if this whole thing is simply stupid or a try at suppression of resistence. I don't mean the people doing it, but the rule that outlaws music. Did they knew 1500 years ago that music was powerful? That a song could influence people so much they might take up their weapons and fight back? Or are they just idiots about it?

12/6/2012 5:57:04 AM

Blue_J

What's worse, we no longer have a four-man band that's up to the task of sailing there in a Yellow Submarine to save Pepperland!


12/6/2012 5:57:36 AM

Sammettik

I wasn't aware that N.O.N. had an African branch.

12/6/2012 5:58:09 AM

Doubting Thomas

And just when I thought Christian fundies were totally crazy. But actually I can see many of them agreeing with these tactics and wishing they had the power that Muslim fundies do there.

12/6/2012 5:59:58 AM

anevilmeme

@fishtank

Rather than dropping bombs the US military should be dropping Dimmu Borgir CDs?

12/6/2012 6:00:34 AM

John_in_Oz

Couldn't you just stop after Ga Ga and Bieber?

12/6/2012 6:21:09 AM

Mister Spak

"Music is against Islam,”

Apparently everything is against islam.
Maybe the US could bomb the place with solar powered MP3 players.


12/6/2012 6:48:04 AM

Darwin

THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS - slogan on Woody Guthrie's guitar.

12/6/2012 7:00:21 AM

Pak

Wow.

12/6/2012 7:01:17 AM



Ah, yes, the beauty of Islam, the religion of peace. Not.


12/6/2012 7:40:40 AM

SpukiKitty

I'd love to ask these Islamozealots, "WHERE, exactly in your scriptures does it say that music is evil?! Gimmie chapter & verse!"

I think this zealots do it because they are sadists, pure & simple. I'd say the people ought to band together & fight back!

I'll bet in their base of operations, these embarrassments to Islam are jamming to music & having lots of booze & sex!

It's not about faith & morals! It's about power, control & the lulz! They are SADISTS & PSYCHOPATHS. This applies to all zealots of all faiths!

I'm sure there are charities & groups out there that are trying to undo all the mess caused by past colonialism in Africa! Something needs to be done. Something has to break! You push people around enough & THEY SNAP! KARMA WILL BE REAPED!

Africa is humanity's homeland...a continent awash in magnificent wildlife, natural wonders & amazing traditional arts & culture...where once prosperous kingdoms once stood. Now it's a big chunk of land full of dictators, blood, death, rape, starvation, poverty & psychopaths. Thank you, "Mighty Whitey", thanking for screwing up everything!

Most of Africa, like much of the Mid-East (especially Afghanistan) needs to get the anti-zealot smackdown big time! We need to teach the PEOPLE how to defend themselves & we need to educate everyone so they don't fall for religious zealotry! That alone will lift them up!

I would love to see a vast demonstration of people, a massive crowd, banging drums & singing. Granted, they may get killed but the demonstration will be beautiful & they will be celebrated martyrs that will inspire the world!

From now on, I wont use the word "fundie" or "fundamentalist" because the former sounds too cute I the later (which the former's taken from) means "someone who follows the fundamentals of their faith"....which these bastards don't! "Zealot" sounds far more harsh & sinister & describes a faith-based brutish maniac perfectly!


EDIT:
@ Akasuna
I wrote that offending line because I was furious. I'm sorry I wrote it. I've since removed it. I'm sorry.

12/6/2012 7:44:30 AM

Horsefeathers

"'Instead of singing, why don’t they read the Koran? Why don’t they subject themselves to God and pray?'"

Because then they'd turn out to be a soulless killjoy just like you did, you knuckle dragging philistine.

12/6/2012 7:55:27 AM

Kuno

@SpukiKitty

I'd love to ask these Islamozealots, "WHERE, exactly in your scriptures does it say that music is evil?! Gimmie chapter & verse!"

I was just about to write the same. I have never read the Q’ran but somehow I seriously doubt it says that. Can someone who has read it confirm that?

Also, I like that "zealot" idea.

12/6/2012 8:06:42 AM

Papabear

That's the ticket. If we just drive the bright and creative people out of our country, religion will thrive and our country will prosper.

12/6/2012 8:39:07 AM

Stonespiral

Makes me want to learn a new instrument. You know what? I think I will.

12/6/2012 8:47:33 AM

Akasuna

@SpukiKitty
"...psychopaths are not even HUMAN!"

I'm a psychopath and I'm human... or so I'd like to believe.

But anyway, as a music lover, these types of hollow fuckers bring out the worst in me. Music is an art form, a coping mechanism, and can comprise the entire lives of certain people. To me, taking away music is equivalent to taking away life itself. And trying to put religion in its place?! These cunts deserve the worst type of punishment. I honestly hope that they will be beaten to death with brass instruments to the beat of Fuck the Police by NWA.

12/6/2012 8:51:11 AM

New Face of Rev

“Music is against Islam,”

No you're just worried that someone will write a protest song against your particular brand of zealotry.

“Instead of singing, why don’t they read the Koran?

Instead of sending thugs round to people's houses to smash their instruments, why don't YOU read the Koran?

12/6/2012 9:13:00 AM

Phed

@SpukiKitty & @Kuno

"I'd love to ask these Islamozealots, "WHERE, exactly in your scriptures does it say that music is evil?! Gimmie chapter & verse!"

Please DON'T point 'm there: because it is exactly where they get their legitimacy from.

Here are some examples that I googled for you:

(1) Hadhrat Abu Maalik Ash'ari (radhiyallahu anhu) says that he heard Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) say: "Most certainly, there will be in my Ummah people who will make lawful fornication, silk, liquor and musical instruments." (Bukhaari)

This is talking about allowing stuff (making it Halal) that is actually forbidden (Haram)

(36) Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) said: "Verily, Allah Ta'ala sent me as a Mercy and a Guide to the worlds, and He has commanded me to destroy musical instruments……"

more here:
http://www.muftisays.com/blog/abu+mohammed/362_25-06-2010/40-hadith-on-music.html

The Hadith are the saying / traditions about the life of Muhammed: a bit like the NT for Christians that describes Jesus' (alleged) life. (just much more fragmented and badly edited)

Conservative Muslims do not allow for music: only a kind of 'singing' (male voices only) in their recitations of the Quran. Preferably without any instruments. Bells for example are exceptionally evil (Satanic) - maybe because Christians use them.

The Quran also tells people not to sing or make music (according to at least *some* translators / interpreters)

The Noble Qur'an - An-Najm 53:57-62
The Day of Resurrection draws near, None besides Allah can avert it, (or advance it, or delay it). Do you then wonder at this recital (the Qur'an)? And you laugh at it and weep not, Wasting your (precious) lifetime in pastime and amusements (singing, etc.). So fall you down in prostration to Allah, and worship Him (Alone).

http://muttaqun.com/music.html

As s general rule of thumb: the least Muslims use their scripture in my opinion and the more they use their hearts and minds the nicer people they are (and some of them are extremely nice people). It should be noted this is true for most if not all religions I am familiar with.

12/6/2012 9:20:00 AM

The Crimson Ghost

Do these dumbshits actually think that they'll have any success? Attempting to eradicate music around the world; by barging in peoples' houses & snatching it away. Good idea!

Try to take my tunes away will only lead to much pain & suffering...for you.

You can shove your koran up your ass.


12/6/2012 9:22:00 AM
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