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THE FEEDING OF THE 5,000: Today America is in a liberal theocracy where everything is guided by “God’s Word” of the liberal State Churches. They say Jesus healed for free and therefore this supports “free healthcare”. But just because Jesus healed for free does not mean He supports "free" healthcare-a misnomer anyway because NOTHING is FREE when done through government FORCE. So then the liberals change the meaning of free to mean “affordable.” Does that mean food has to be “affordable” also? Shouldn’t we be required to pay food insurance premiums or be fined or face imprisonment? Jesus also fed 5,000 people for free. The Apostle Paul disagrees with this free interpretation of food when he says “If a man will not work He will not eat.” And note that Jesus also never married. That would make marriage a sin according to the liberals.


David, Yahoo! News 30 Comments [12/7/2012 7:31:00 AM]
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Mister Spak

"Today America is in a liberal theocracy "

No, liberals follow the constitution which says congress shall pass no law regarding establishment of religion. It's conservatives who establish a theocracy in America.

"And note that Jesus also never married. That would make marriage a sin according to the liberals. "

Also note that Jesus hung out with 12 guys for 3 years. That would make Jesus a homo according to conservatives, if it was anyone other than their Jesus doing it.

12/7/2012 8:09:34 AM

Leighton Buzzard

Yeah, yeah, and the gubmint should keep its hands off of your Medicare, innit.

12/7/2012 8:20:47 AM

UHM

"So then the liberals change the meaning of free to mean “affordable.”"
No they didn't. "Free" means without exchange of money, "affordable" means it still costs the buyer something, but that he can afford it.

"Does that mean food has to be “affordable” also?"
Yeah, because if not people will starve...

"Shouldn’t we be required to pay food insurance premiums or be fined or face imprisonment?"
What the fuck could a "food insurance" be? Does that go like "You'll give us 3,000$ and we'll pay for all you food - if you get hungry?".

"The Apostle Paul disagrees with this free interpretation of food when he says “If a man will not work He will not eat.”"
I don't think you'll find anybody who disagrees with that, yet most people support sending foot when natural disasters hit. But of course loosing your job isn't a personal disaster and therefor whoever loses their job should just die.
Also Jesus fed 5,000 people, he didn't tell them to go fishing and leave him alone.

"And note that Jesus also never married. That would make marriage a sin according to the liberals."
No, that makes Jesus a confirmed bachelor.

PROTIP: Most systems of rules describe what you are not allowed to do, not what you are allowed to do.

12/7/2012 8:21:21 AM

Papabear

Yes, basic food should be considered a right just as should healthcare.

"If a man WILL not work..." That doesn't cover those who can't work because of illness (even mental illness) or disability, or for whom there are no jobs.

P.S. Is it really your best tactic to cast Jesus as against healthcare for poor people and pro-starvation?

12/7/2012 8:41:33 AM

hera

"The Apostle Paul disagrees with this free interpretation of food when he says “If a man will not work He will not eat.”"

Don't feed your kids then.

12/7/2012 8:45:07 AM

rubber chicken

As usual, you prefer the words of Paul to the words of Jesus. Why do you call yourselves Christians again ?

12/7/2012 9:21:20 AM

Leander

There is no such thing as a "liberal theocracy".
Go and fuck your supply side Jesus...

12/7/2012 9:41:31 AM

J. James

Waaah, Jesus hates universal healthcare!

12/7/2012 10:13:54 AM

christian_leftie

and here was I thinking that what the US centre-right where after was "universal, affordable healthcare, free at the point of access".

You know, like the entire rest of the western world has...

12/7/2012 10:27:14 AM

Nagol

Ah yes, the old tactic of twisting Jesus's words around or preferring Paul's over his to ignore something inconvenient to your narrow view of the world.

12/7/2012 10:29:21 AM

The Crimson Ghost

Exactly what is a liberal theocracy?

Shut your trap David.

12/7/2012 12:26:17 PM

farpadokly

"He who wants to eat must work" was one of the slogans of the 1910 Mexican revolution, and there's a mural by Diego Rivera with that title. It is one basic socialist principle. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his work".
This was aimed at the idle rich and the parasitic plantation owners as much as at the urban worker. The American wealthy classes are wealthy not because they work hard, but because a lot of people work hard for them. They're rich not because of what they DO, but because of what they OWN, and they own what they own by pure theft.

12/7/2012 12:45:59 PM

Mattiedef

Paul, whose words have been twisted by latter editors and used for the name of slavery and subjugating women.

12/7/2012 1:13:41 PM

Hasan Prishtina

"Today America is in a liberal theocracy where everything is guided by “God’s Word” of the liberal State Churches."

England has a State Church. Denmark has a State Church. Greece has a State Church. The United States Constitution forbids a State Church. And liberals aren't big on theocracy.

"Shouldn’t we be required to pay food insurance premiums or be fined or face imprisonment?"

In fact that is just what the state does do if you don't pay your taxes. And, among other things, what does the state spend your taxes on? Food stamps, relief for victims of disasters...

"The Apostle Paul disagrees with this free interpretation of food when he says “If a man will not work He will not eat.”

Just as it says in the Constition of the Soviet Union 1936, Article 12. If David is confused about liberals, he is at least at one with Stalin.

"And note that Jesus also never married. That would make marriage a sin according to the liberals."

Alas, David forgot that Jesus's first miracle was while attending the wedding at Cana.

12/7/2012 2:12:22 PM

Thinking Allowed

Funny that several years of documentation between his birth and the start of his ministry is missing. It is quite conceivable that during this time he was married and fathered several children.

12/7/2012 2:24:48 PM

checkmate

Does that mean food has to be “affordable” also?

Wow! Never heard of government subsidies which end up keeping the cost of food up, not down?

Without those subsidies food would be dirt cheap most of the time and farmers would be extremely poor.

Hey, David, get your stories straightened out.

12/7/2012 2:41:25 PM

JSS

[And note that Jesus also never married. That would make marriage a sin according to the liberals.]

1 Corinthians:
7:27 Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.
7:28 But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned. Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you.
7:29 But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none;


Although not a sin, Apostle Paul did kind of frown upon it.

12/7/2012 5:11:23 PM

Old Viking

Drivel dressing on a word salad.

12/7/2012 5:47:59 PM

Arctic Knight

Jesus never drove a car, watched TV or used a computer. I think David needs to follow his god's example.

12/7/2012 6:31:28 PM

Sasha

Always amusing when fundies accuse people of worshipping something other than God. The idea that some people don't need to worship anything apparently bounces right off fundies; their need to follow authority is so ingrained they literally cannot imagine living without it.

12/7/2012 10:49:05 PM

Ebon

Yeah, I've seen this kind of pseudo-pious bullshit before. It gives lip service to Christianity just to disguise the hatred for it's fellow man.

12/8/2012 4:16:04 AM



THE FEEDING OF THE 5,000: Todizzle Tha Ghetto is up in a liberal theocracy where everythang is guided by “Dogg’s Word” of tha liberal State Churches. They say Jizzy healed fo' free n' therefore dis supportz “free gamecare”. But just cuz Jizzy healed fo' free do not mean Dude supportz "free" gamecare-a misnomer anyway cuz NOTHING is FREE when done all up in posse FORCE. Right back up in yo muthafuckin ass. So then tha liberals chizzle tha meanin of free ta mean “affordable.” Do dat mean chicken has ta be “affordable” also, biatch? Shouldn’t our crazy-ass asses be required ta pay chicken insurizzle premiums and be fined and grill imprisonment, biatch? Jizzy also fed 5,000 gangstas fo' free. Da Apostle Pizzle disagrees wit dis free interpretation of chicken when he says “If a playa aint gonna work Dude aint gonna eat.” And note dat Jizzy also never hooked up. Y'all KNOW dat shit, muthafucka! That would make marriage a sin accordin ta tha liberals.

12/8/2012 6:11:40 AM

Doubting Thomas

Liberal theocracy? I suppose this only makes sense when you consider that fundies call any political or scientific philosophy they don't like a religion, such as communism, socialism, feminism, environmentalism, atheism, evolution, and liberalism in general.

Oh, and Jesus healed the sick for free and fed the multitudes, but fundies worship Republican Jesus.

12/8/2012 8:39:50 AM

SpukiKitty

@Doubting Thomas

Oh, and Jesus healed the sick for free and fed the multitudes, but fundies worship Republican Jesus.

....also known as Jeebus Antichrist, Jeezoos Crispies or simply...Damien (only grown & looking like a clone of Chuck Norris).

Again, the 4 Gospels are the only part of the Bible worth reading. The rest is baloney.

12/8/2012 9:49:57 AM

Dr. Shrinker

David has obviously not read II Thessalonians 3:10 in context (try and contain your surprise.) It was referring specifically to people who had given up sowing their fields and tending their shops because they had bought into the story that Jesus was coming and the world was ending "any day now." This grave departure from Paul's original message is one of the things that have lead many scholars to believe that II Thessalonians was forged in Paul's name after his death. The point is that it was a message intended to curb the sloth of extremist, unthinking Christians and not to be used as a weapon to promote abuse of the poor and needy.

This lesson in your religion has been brought to you be an atheist David

12/8/2012 12:22:22 PM
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