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Concerns are being raised about Stanford University's new law school clinic on religious liberty.

Mat Staver, who founded Liberty Counsel, is fean of Liberty University's law school. He welcomes Stanford's effort to raise up religious liberty lawyers, as long as it centers on the constitutional basis of the rule of law.

"One of the issues, however, that needs to be considered is whether or not there will be much emphasis placed on advancing the Muslim cause," he notes. "Certainly that could be a concern to many people around the country."

He explains why that should be a concern in a law school.

"Islam is a political ideology. Certainly it takes characteristics of religion, but by and large, at its core, both in the United States and around the world, it is a political ideology," Staver asserts. "Consequently, to use the same kind of laws for an advancement of a political ideology that you would for religious liberty could eventually cause some concerning issues that we want to address."

In other words, it would mean advancing a political ideology under the guise of religion.

While Stanford claims to be first in establishing a religious liberty law clinic, Liberty University has already had that distinction in conjunction with Liberty Counsel.

Mat Staver, OneNewsNow 29 Comments [12/8/2012 5:33:39 PM]
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checkmate

Certainly it takes characteristics of religion, but by and large, at its core, both in the United States and around the world, it is a political ideology

And no conservative Christian would ***ever*** mix up their religion and their politics. Nooooo, of course not.

12/8/2012 6:38:02 PM

Dr. Shrinker

"One of the issues, however, that needs to be considered is whether or not there will be much emphasis placed on advancing the Dominionist cause," Dr. Shrinker notes. "Certainly that could be a concern to many people around the country."

12/8/2012 6:42:23 PM

John_in_Oz

Get the religion out of politics?
No prayer at the opening of Congress?
No oath of office?
No inequality for gays?
No tax exemptions for religions or ministers?

Please tell me more.

12/8/2012 7:39:04 PM

freako104

It's a political ideology. So what is it when youbChristians use your religion to influence and hide behind it when you are being overtly political?

12/8/2012 10:44:01 PM

Reckoner

And if anyone knows about "advancing a political ideology under the guise of religion" it would be Staver.

12/8/2012 11:07:11 PM

Leighton Buzzard

Dean of Liberty U.'s law school. That's comedy gold, right there.

12/9/2012 3:12:46 AM

Grimsoncrow

WOW that's a lot of Liberties...

12/9/2012 4:20:17 AM

LDM

Nice shiny mirror you got there.

12/9/2012 4:41:49 AM

keefus

I don't see anything to dispute here. Islam has always lent itself to political ideology. That Christianity also has a hand (perhaps more subtly) in government should not stop anyone recognising this element of Islam.

Get all religion out of politics. But let's address the more overtly political religions first.

12/9/2012 4:59:36 AM

anti-nonsense

Liberty University is not a real university.

12/9/2012 5:17:58 AM



Concerns is bein raised bout Stanford Universityz freshly smoked up law school clinic on religious liberty.

Mat Staver, whoz ass dropped Liberty Counsel, is fean of Liberty Universityz law school yo. Dude welcomes Stanfordz effort ta raise up religious liberty lawyers, as long as it centas on tha constipationizzle basiz of tha rule of law.

"One of tha issues, however, dat needz ta be considered is whether and not there is ghon be much emphasis placed on advancin tha Muslim cause," he notes. "Certainly dat could be a cold-ass lil concern ta nuff gangstas around tha ghetto."

Dude explains why dat should be a cold-ass lil concern up in a law school.

"Islam be a polistical ideologizzle. Certainly it takes characteristicz of religion yo, but by n' large, at itz core, both up in tha United Hoodz n' around tha ghetto, it aint nuthin but a polistical ideologizzle," Staver asserts. "Consequently, ta bust tha same stupid-ass kind of laws fo' a advizzlement of a polistical ideologizzle dat you would fo' religious liberty could eventually cause some concernin issues dat our crazy-ass asses wanna address."

In other lyrics, it would mean advancin a polistical ideologizzle under tha guise of religion.

While Stanford frontz ta be first up in establishin a religious liberty law clinic, Liberty Universitizzle has already had dat distinction up in conjunction wit Liberty Counsel.

12/9/2012 5:18:04 AM

Nerikull

"[A]dvancing a political ideology under the guise of religion."

This from someone who longs to see the inverse happen in this country.

Leave religion in the church, and politics in the government.

12/9/2012 7:45:26 AM

Doubting Thomas

"Islam is a political ideology. Certainly it takes characteristics of religion, but by and large, at its core, both in the United States and around the world, it is a political ideology,"

How is this one bit different from Christianity here in the U.S.? The ONLY thing which has prevented a Christian theocracy in this country is the First Amendment, and it's done a poor job at that given how Christianity permeates government at all levels and especially the military.

12/9/2012 7:46:17 AM

Hasan Prishtina

On the whole, I'm more impressed by someone with a law degree from Stanford than from Liberty.

12/9/2012 8:23:50 AM

Frank

I would be more comcerned as to why Stanford U feels the need to establish a law school clinic on religious liberty in the first place.

I would think that religion has more than enough liberty in America as it is without them educating more busybody lawyers to pursue pointless religious freedom cases which are usually just excuses to try to supress the rights of women and homosexuals.

12/9/2012 8:43:08 AM

UHM

Liberty University - brainwashing society since 1971.

12/9/2012 9:14:20 AM

Pist

They're going to be pissed when they figure out that keeping government and law secular like atheists prefer is one of the best ways to keep religions they don't like from passing laws too.

12/9/2012 10:43:08 AM

Filin De Blanc

"I would be more comcerned as to why Stanford U feels the need to establish a law school clinic on religious liberty in the first place.

I would think that religion has more than enough liberty in America as it is without them educating more busybody lawyers to pursue pointless religious freedom cases which are usually just excuses to try to supress the rights of women and homosexuals."

Well, women and homosexuals need lawyers who are educated in religious liberty laws to defend them from said busybody lawyers.

12/9/2012 12:09:45 PM

Papabear

Yeah, you claim that Islam is NOT a religion, but as always, you are still claiming that atheism IS a religion. Idiots.

12/9/2012 1:39:22 PM

LAchlan

@LDM, if the mirror in the Hubble space telescope was that shiny, its efficiency would be raised by several orders of magnitude.

12/9/2012 2:44:25 PM

farpadokly

In that case, whenever anyone religious voices a political opinion, they are instantly to be considered not religious anymore, and not to have rights of religious liberty or tax-exempt status. Stupid eh? Not as stupid as this, because Islam is NOT a political ideology, but only a religion with political implications, just like all other religions, but the Abrahamic religions in particular.

12/9/2012 3:07:16 PM

Old Viking

"So, young man, you'd like to join our firm. And you say your law degree is from Liberty University?"

"Yes sir."

"Do you know how to sweep?"


12/9/2012 4:08:47 PM

Raised by Horses

You guys have an interesting definition of 'liberty'.


12/9/2012 8:14:37 PM

Mister Spak

" Liberty University has already had that distinction in conjunction with Liberty Counsel. "

No, it's a religious dictatorship law clinic. As in nobody can do ( ) because it's against my religion.

12/10/2012 9:07:42 AM

JohnTheAtheist

So we should all have religious liberty so long as we agree with you, is that about right?

12/10/2012 9:24:40 AM
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