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#1480911
Arctic Knight
Ah, because rabbits chew cud, salt loses its flavor, the world is a flat circle rather than a sphere, flora and fauna can speak and the mustard seed is the smallest seed in the world. Do you want me to continue with more scientific falsehoods that can be found in your Bible?
12/10/2012 4:39:18 AM
#1480921
UHM
Why do you people need an absolute truth? What makes you really need that so much? Do it like science, run on assumptions that are probably true.
12/10/2012 5:03:07 AM
#1480922
Leighton Buzzard
There is no math in the Bible.
12/10/2012 5:13:05 AM
#1480931
Science uses actual data, not a "worldview".
12/10/2012 5:29:57 AM
#1480936
Doubting Thomas
Bible truths? Like a 6 day creation 6,000 years ago? Like a worldwide flood that never happened? Like a mass exodus of Israelites from Egypt which archaeologists never found evidence of?
This "without the bible you can't prove anything" idea appears to be another fundie falsehood that one of them came up with and the rest pass around as fact. It's not even a good argument. It's totally stupid.
12/10/2012 5:49:01 AM
#1480938
Raised by Horses
Okay, prove the germ theory of disease using the Bible, then get back to us.
12/10/2012 5:49:39 AM
#1480946
KittyKaboom
Yes, because having seen the pictures of earth from space, we have scientifically verified that the earth is not only flat, but is supported by four pillars.
Oh wait....
12/10/2012 6:09:51 AM
#1480947
elix
It's a good thing the Bible doesn't contradict itself, as it's the source of truths necessary to understand the world.
Oh, wait.
12/10/2012 6:11:37 AM
#1480954
D Laurier
what the fuck?
12/10/2012 6:18:40 AM
#1480956
Felix Wilde
What is this I don't even
12/10/2012 6:22:22 AM
#1480968
Joe Mama
Looks like science has gotten along just well without the bible, thank you very much. Please show me in the bible where it talks about electricity or electronic circuits, and if you can't then get off your computer.
12/10/2012 6:47:53 AM
#1480970
Reynardine
And the Earth has corners, and logic is a circle.
12/10/2012 6:48:21 AM
#1480973
dionysus
This is one of the few times I've voted WTF not because the quote is super fundie but because it actually made me say "what the fuck?". Where in the Bible does it say anything about logic, investigation, evidence, or science? I can pretty well prove that water expands when it freezes without ever opening the Bible. Countless non-Christian cultures have developed systems of mathematics without the Bible. The West uses the Arabic system of algebra FFS and many of the mathematical principles (such as the Pythagorian Theorem) developed by the Greeks. And math happens to be the only thing that can be proven to an absolute. Even as a former Christian I just don't see where the Bible provides any way to prove anything. Isn't it all supposed to be revelation and faith anyway?
12/10/2012 6:59:44 AM
#1480979
fishtank
zuh?
12/10/2012 7:13:39 AM
#1480980
Mister Spak
It's amazing what you can accomplish after you prove PI is really equal to 3.
12/10/2012 7:15:55 AM
#1480990
anevilmeme
Not.......Even.........Wrong.....
12/10/2012 7:25:15 AM
#1480991
Horsefeathers
Well isn't that just stupid.
I'd say more, but everyone else has pretty well covered it.
12/10/2012 7:31:14 AM
#1480993
Alleyprowler
Truth, like love, is one of those special fundie words that means exactly the opposite of what the rest of us mean when we use them.
12/10/2012 7:35:32 AM
#1480996
quinky
The above commenters have clearly (and happily) not encountered presuppositional apologetics. This is a corner-stone of presuppositionalism: claiming that without logic, you can't do science, and logic, uhm, comes from God, because yeah.
12/10/2012 7:42:18 AM
#1481002
Papabear
Specifically, what truth from the Bible allows us to "prove" the Bible? Sounds like "1984" double-speak to me.
12/10/2012 7:51:30 AM
#1481003
breakerslion
A Nambikiwara who has never seen a Bible told me that if he sticks you with a poisoned arrow, you will die. He says he can prove it.
12/10/2012 7:57:40 AM
#1481008
Anon-e-moose
"People who want to disprove the Bible actually have to borrow from its worldview to attempt to do so and hence have already lost the argument before they even begin"
Bitch, please. I don't even have to go into 20% of Argument Annilhilation Mode, to merely point out that the notion of a man made from dirt - and a woman cloned from one of his ribs; also a talking snake, insects with four legs, bats that lay eggs, rabbits that chew their cud, and goats bred near patterned poles that give birth to young with matching fur colour/pattern characteristics, mean that your so-called 'Biblical Worldview' has been destroyed, before the argument even fucking existed to be annihilated in the first place.
12/10/2012 8:01:45 AM
#1481028
farpadokly
It's not about "disproving" the Bible, it's about seriously investigating its claims to truth. And no, you don't have to borrow from its worldview in the slightest. You can use logic, whose workings predate Christianity.
12/10/2012 9:03:53 AM
#1481043
JSS
Actually, the best proof of the validity of scientific inquiry is that without its truths you couldn't prove anything! People who want to shirk science in favor of scripture actually have to borrow from the scientific worldview to attempt to do so and hence have already lost the argument before they even begin.
Now that actually makes sense.
12/10/2012 9:22:44 AM
#1481045
JohnTheAtheist
I read this post 5 times and I am still not sure what Chris is trying to say.
12/10/2012 9:26:07 AM
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