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On November 06, 2012, The United States of America passed away with an almost silent whimper. She was 236 years old. The grand old lady died of neglect, stupidity, arrogance and pure abuse at the hands of both her leaders and its ignorant populace. She will be survived by the Socialist Democratic Republic of Obamerica or SDRO.Also killed in this same massive, catastrophic, progressive wreck were personal freedoms, American values, exceptionalism, The Constitution, economic growth, conservatism, fiscal sanity, American unity, free markets, life's sanctity, marriage between man and woman, Republicanism, free will, self-reliance and many more so mutilated as to be unrecognizable any longer. July 4, 1776 - Born
November 6, 2012 - Committed Suicide

Raymond, Mother Jones 63 Comments [12/12/2012 4:25:47 AM]
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Grimsoncrow

I'm hearing lots of LOUD whimpering...

You American commenters out there:

Do you think if some radical fundie Republican won the next election the American ideals of freedom and democracy would miraculously be restored?

I mean, sure, it's fun to see these wailing, blubbering rants, but I find it almost incomprehensible that ONE lost election is literally the end of the world for these guys...

Is it because of your two- party system, or why? Can you enlighten me?

12/12/2012 4:34:49 AM

Hasan Prishtina

There there, Raymond.

12/12/2012 5:08:11 AM

The Knight of PiƱata

@Grimsoncrow

Yeah, I keep asking myself the same question. I mean, conservatives over here get pretty pissed when they lose elections, but they mostly resign themselves and say "meh, we'll win the next one". I don't understand why American conservatives treat a single lost election like the world has ended and the US is burning.

Would any of you American commenters care to enlighten us?

12/12/2012 5:16:58 AM

Nighstalker160

They aren't rational people. For them this is literally a cosmic war between good and evil. Obama isn't simply a politician they disagree with, he's an agent of a supernatural force determined to see America fall.

12/12/2012 5:24:01 AM

Leighton Buzzard

Tough shit, hard cheese. I daresay there'll be an (R) in the White House in 4 years, after which you'll forget you ever said this crazy thing.

12/12/2012 5:26:22 AM

Paler_Face

Comically melodramatic overreactions to Obama's reelection are starting to get a bit of a boor.

12/12/2012 5:44:18 AM

Filin De Blanc

"I mean, sure, it's fun to see these wailing, blubbering rants, but I find it almost incomprehensible that ONE lost election is literally the end of the world for these guys..."

I think it might be because Obama was already the president when he won the election - he's had some time in office, and people have seen what he's done in office, and they still want him. It was one thing when he won the first time, but this time, he actually has a record as president (that conservatives don't like) that can be scrutinized, and people have looked at his record and said "yeah, I want this guy back in over Romney" instead of running for the hills. Obama failed to magically fix the US during his first term, which leads to the conclusion that he won primarily because people flat-out prefer his politics over Romney's. And since Romney's politics are basically the core GOP base, it's hard to escape the conclusion that the public, on balance, simply does not like the GOP message. And if that's true, then it doesn't matter who they come up with next time, because that person will still have most of the same policies that made Romney so unpopular. The fact that Obama still won after all the shit thrown at him is a sign that the US just likes democrat policies better than republican ones. And if that's true, the GOP is screwed.

12/12/2012 5:53:27 AM

Canadiest

I'm just going to pick on one thing here

"exceptionalism"

Anyone who brings that up as an argument loses my respect as that has only been touted as a virtue by the most ignorant, talentless figures in politics and media.

Like Palin. It's the Ugly American who demands, by nothing but their chance birth in America that they are a the top in everything and are to be respected, even obeyed for that alone. There's nothing else there, when they try to break it down they show the hypocracy and ignorance behind the catchphrase "exceptionalism": That America invented everything, is the first and only democracy on Earth and have a glorious unblemished history.

I hear it from only the biggest bullshitters in the game.

12/12/2012 6:23:12 AM

Mister Spak

"Also killed in this same massive, catastrophic, progressive wreck were personal freedoms, American values, exceptionalism, The Constitution, economic growth, conservatism, fiscal sanity, American unity, free markets, life's sanctity, marriage between man and woman, Republicanism, free will, self-reliance and many more so mutilated as to be unrecognizable any longer."

You left out motherhood, apple pie and pickup trucks.

12/12/2012 6:35:56 AM

UHM

If you loved here do a Romeo.

@Canadiest:
Every time I hear it I imagine a husband loudly proclaiming that his wife is the most beautiful woman in the world, and while he might feel that way and we're all happy for him, we all know his wife is just average - and that in 5 months time he'll catch himself looking at an underwear catalogue thinking about banging the models. What I wouldn't have thought was that the Republicans underwear model was a quack whore.

12/12/2012 6:51:33 AM

Rabbit of Caerbannog

Cry moar.

12/12/2012 6:55:32 AM

Doubting Thomas

On November 06, 2012, The United States of America passed away with an almost silent whimper.

All these butthurt Republicans declaring the United States dead are free to pack their bags and GTFO. The rest of us have important work to do to actually save our country.

The grand old lady died of neglect, stupidity, arrogance and pure abuse at the hands of both her leaders and its ignorant populace.

"WAAAAAAAAH!!!! People didn't vote the way I wanted them to!!!" Get over it. Democracy means that sometimes you don't get your way. And extreme right-wing conservatism is slowly dying out anyway.

Also killed in this same massive, catastrophic, progressive wreck were personal freedoms

Don't talk about personal freedoms dying when you're a member of a party which plans to ban abortion and install Christianity as the official state religion. And don't forget what Rick Santorum, a one-time Republican candidate for president, said about Americans not having the right to privacy and it's the government's duty to police people's bedrooms.

Republicanism ... so mutilated as to be unrecognizable any longer.

Your fellow Republicans did this to themselves. They allowed their party to be taken over by the evangelicals and teabaggers and moved to the extreme right, and now even after the election, when the voters showed they prefer a more moderate candidate, the Republican party wants to move even further to the right.

At any rate, please whine more. I was starting to miss all the tears of impotent Republican rage.

12/12/2012 6:59:49 AM

Pak

Wait. Did they die of neglect, was it an accident, or did they kill themselves?

12/12/2012 7:00:13 AM

Doubting Thomas

Filin De Blanc's astute analysis is pretty much spot on. The Republicans know that people overwhelmingly supported Democratic policies and rejected the Republican platform. They know the country is moving more toward the center or left, yet they don't know how to adapt and instead cling to their ultra-conservative ideas. Worse yet, their party has moved even further to the right in recent years, and it doesn't appear to be shifting back toward the center any time soon.

But I think also there is a huge undercurrent of racism running through conservatism these days, with the idea that a black president is not only a completely horrible and worthless president, but one who wants to actually destroy the country. So the fact that he was reelected means that these racist conservatives just can't handle the fact that the entire country isn't as racist as they are.

And finally, as I've postulated before, it seems that most conservatives tend to isolate their news sources to conservative talk radio and Fox News, and surround themselves with like-minded people to reinforce their beliefs. It's the same communal reinforcement that religious people use. So when they keep hearing how terrible a president Obama is, and all their friends are saying the same thing, they think that everyone across the country thinks like they do and were genuinely surprised that Obama won reelection even though all the polls showed him leading since Romney won the Republican nomination.

12/12/2012 7:09:59 AM

fishtank

Was the left that hysteric when GWB was reelected in 2004?

12/12/2012 7:18:05 AM

fishtank

Double-post!

12/12/2012 7:23:28 AM

SpukiKitty

They're still crying, I love it!

12/12/2012 7:28:18 AM

dionysus

@Grimsoncrow- Some people think Obama is the anti-Christ. Others think he's some kind of neo-Lenin. Still others think that he is out to destroy jobs. And then there's the racists. These are the people that I can see posting what Raymond posted.

@The Knight of Pinata- They've been whipped up by propaganda, mainly from Fox News. They honestly believe that Obama is the worst president in US history and that he is solely responsible for everything bad that's ever happened including the deficit, which Republicans like Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II actually contributed far more to. This propaganda was meant to rev up the base for the election but now we see the effects of it.

@fishtank- I don't remember many on the left thinking Bush's re-election was the death of the United States. I do remember them thinking that Bush was going to declare war on the entire middle east though and claiming that Bush was going to institute martial law.

12/12/2012 7:32:21 AM

Titania

@UHM, H. L. menken once said "We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart." The same could be said of Raymond opinion.

12/12/2012 8:01:43 AM

Mister Spak

@Doubting Thomas:

"But I think also there is a huge undercurrent of racism running through conservatism these days,"

There is actually less racism in conservatism these days than there used to be.

The Reagan revolution was about southern democrats, enraged about their party passing and enforcing civil rights laws in spite of 20 years of tears of impotent rage migrated en masse to the republic party and voting for Ronny Raygun. The KKK even had a press conference endorsing him.

The racist base doesn't deliver as many votes now as it used to in 1980. It's one of the reasons the Republic party is losing.


12/12/2012 8:07:58 AM

Papabear

Wasn't it personal freedom which allowed Obama to be elected?

12/12/2012 8:12:43 AM

Grouchy misanthropic heathen atheist

"Also killed in this same massive, catastrophic, progressive wreck were personal freedoms,"

Please, tell me exactly which rights you have lost. I have a feeling you haven't lost any actual rights but you are just feeling persecuted because people are speaking up against your idiocy.

12/12/2012 8:19:29 AM



@ Raymond

It's in large part because of the state of the media and the education system here. The Republicans have a 24/7 propaganda system in Fox News and talk radio, almost all of which, nationwide, is owned by just a handful of right-wingers,

Regular network news is also slanted to omit facts that would counter them. They control the vast majority of network TV and much of the print news. Fox and the radio nutjobs put out this ridiculous doomsday misinformation around the clock, and the corporate controlled news does nothing to debunk it. In fact, they give the insanity credence by pretending there's some legitimate debate about the lies. In many parts of the country, there is literally not one non-Republican propaganda radio staton or television/paper news source. There is no real information.

After the last two elections, radio stations in large cities like New York and San Fransisco which did have liberal talk radio (read: factual news) pulled those highy rated shows and replaced them with right-wing propaganda, even though it's losing them money in those liberal markets (although I believe NYC has finally gotten at least some of theirs back). More stations are scheduled to be changed over in January as a consequence of this election.

They've also changed school curricilum in many states to reflect their views, and have bought positions on faculties of universities all over the country.

It's exactly like a cult, in which part of the misinformation campaign is to brainwash these people to believe that the other side is evil and no information that comes from it should be believed.


12/12/2012 9:31:10 AM



Drama queen

12/12/2012 9:45:18 AM

J. James

@Grimsoncrow, Piñata
We Americans do things differently. Although our two-party system may seem similar to a Parlimentary system on the surface, in reality it's quite different. America has long been evenly matched between center-leftists and heavily right-wing conservatives; this causes us to vascillate wildly between the two dominant parties. Each party is diametrically opposed to the other- complete and total opposites in every conceivable way. There is literally no workable common ground, none. If one party takes up a position of the other, the other immediately attacks it and does the opposite, and vice-versa.

Because the country is pulled in such different directions, in practice the only way for the current minority to influence things(they do not compromise or work together) is to obstruct the majority party in whatever way possible, usually by abusing the checks and balances system or the unintended procedural loophole known as the "filibuster." This is extremely aggravating for the party in power, because their attempts at furthering their agenda or even simply ruling the country are thwarted. This in turn breeds further animosity.

The result of this us-versus-them style of politicking is people like this, who see someone in power who is their complete and utter antithesis, and they despair. Because our right-wing party is the more extremist of the two, and has its own dedicated propaganda network, their fear is greatly exaggerated.

12/12/2012 10:01:40 AM
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