Now that Uganda’s so-called “kill the gays” bill has been revised to drop the death penalty and reportedly add provisions for prevention and therapy for homosexuality, I think there may be room for tentative support in the Christian community in the West, even though it retains jail terms for offenders.
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Random Christian: "We're not support the killing of gays, that's just wrong! Get out of here!"
Scott Lively: "Oh, they're not going to 'kill' them. Not anymore. But they're thinking about reparative therapy. And they're still going to arrest them."
Random Christian: "Oh, that's soooo much better! I'll support the law now!"
/sarcasm, as no sane person, Christian or otherwise, would support that garbage.
Oh, well that's a relief! I won't get killed, I'll only be imprisoned and forced to undergo reparatve therapy! No hard feelings now, Lively!
Yeah, because we all know what a shining example of human rights Uganda is, and the West definitely looks to them for guidance in that area, don't we. Don't we?
Just harass and dehumanize them until they can't take it anymore, huh? Yeah, that's a much better alternative.
Any Christian who supports this is an even bigger dickhead than the average Christian...
Can we have a law making all fundies have to visit a logic 101 course?
"I think there may be room for tentative support in the Christian community in the West, even though it retains jail terms for offenders."
What West are you talking about? The Netherlands maybe where 15% of priests are atheists? Or possibly Denmark where there was an actual discussion about forcing priests and pastors to perform same-sex marriages? Or the UK were the conservative party wants to legalize same-sex marriage? Or may "the West" in this scenario be Russia and Mississippi?
Of course, you are already feeding the hungry, treating the ill, and housing the homeless in Uganda. I mean, of course you are, otherwise you wouldn't have the time and resources to meddle in people's love lives.
"Now that Uganda’s so-called 'kill the gays' bill has been revised to drop the death penalty and reportedly add provisions for prevention and therapy for homosexuality, I think there may be room for tentative support in the Christian community in the West, even though it retains jail terms for offenders."
Since you seem incapable of understanding this situation, how about you replace "homosexuality" with "Christians" and assume that this is coming from a Muslim.
See the problem now?
Yes we know, you hate "teh buttsekz".
I doubt most Christians heterosexuals would want America to be another "Uganda" since some of them are also guilty of sodomy. Don't tell me you think that they only do it missionary style.
You and the rest of the fundies can fuck off to Uganda if you think it's all that wonderful.
The bill supports rounding up and killing homosexuals simply for being gay, even if they try to leave the country.
"What? Such monsters!"
Actually, the bill supports rounding up and imprisoning gays for life, even those that have left the country
"Oh, in that case..."
Oh, Mr. Deadly, the day you kick the bucket will be a day the world became a much better place...
http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/HTML/facts_mental_health.HTML
In 1973, the weight of empirical data, coupled with changing social norms and the development of a politically active gay community in the United States, led the Board of Directors of the American Psychiatric Association to remove homosexuality from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). Some psychiatrists who fiercely opposed their action subsequently circulated a petition calling for a vote on the issue by the Association's membership. That vote was held in 1974, and the Board's decision was ratified.
Can you even point out Uganda on a map, Scotty?
Did you know there was a country called Uganda before you heard about this bill?
Oh, but perhaps you've heard about Idi Amin, a charming man whose rule was characterized by human rights abuse, political repression, ethnic persecution, extra-judicial killings, nepotism, corruption, and gross economic mismanagement, or the Lord's Resistance Army, a lovely cult known for its widespread human rights violations, including murder, abduction, mutilation, child-sex slavery and forcing children to participate in hostilities. And yes, in order to not miss anything, I did copy those lists from Wikipedia.
Of course we'll be tentatively supportive!!!
provisions for prevention and therapy
Apart from the fact that wanting to prevent or therapize homosexuality is ridiculous, anybody even vaguely familiar with Uganda will know that the words "prevention" and "therapy" are more or less unknown in Uganda. "Repression" and "torture" come closer to reality.
Given the worsening overcrowding, inadequate food, sanitation that peaks at the level of a major health hazard, forced hard labour, the illegal (even under Ugandan law) beating of prisoners that seems to continue unchecked, and adding in whatever prevention and "therapy" (which I'm guessing will be beating them more) then all they're doing is swapping a quick death sentance for a slow one.
What about going do what Jesus said: feed the hungry, heal the diseased, care for orphans and school the children instead of persecuting people for acts they commit in private with another consenting adult and send them in jail or in "medical institutes" to be tortured by hormone injections, lobotomies, indoctrination or other?
This kind of project will not only gather support from Christians but also from other religious and non religious peoples.
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