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Date Rape Druggings Are A Myth

Almost every girl I know has told me a “Some guy at the bar put something in my drink” story. And I never believe them.

The purpose of date rape drugs is to render a girl unconscious. But to isolate the girl where he can rape her, a guy has to pick her up on his own and leave the bar or club with her. If he is already able to leave the club with a girl, he doesn’t need drugs to have sex with her because she’ll have sex with him anyway. Do girls honestly think a random dude they never met is drugging their drinks so she will pass out randomly on the dance floor, making a discreet rape impossible?

A few months ago I was with three other friends at a bar when one of them was accused by a white girl—who he didn’t exchange a word with—of putting a roofie in her drink. Even though no pill was found, the bouncer kicked him out because their policy states that the accusation alone is enough. But this only applies to men because I reverse accused the same girl of putting a roofie in my drink and she got to stay. There was a policeman there and I told him that if my friend really did that then why doesn’t he investigate and arrest someone. His response: “Get out of my face or I will arrest you.” Girls don’t hesitate to make up false accusations because they always get the benefit of the doubt (they are honest angels) and there is no punishment if they are caught lying.

“I think I was drugged” is just a convenient excuse for girls to binge drink and lose self-control. The girls you see stumbling in the bar and vomiting on the street are victims, not morons. Well now we have a study which proves these girls are not getting drugged:

Women who claim to be victims of ‘date-rape’ drugs such as Rohypnol have in fact been rendered helpless by binge-drinking, says a study by doctors.

They found no evidence that any woman seeking help from emergency doctors because their drinks were allegedly spiked had actually been given these drugs.

Around one in five tested positive for recreational drugs while two-thirds had been drinking heavily.


Next time a girl tells you she thinks she was drugged because she passed out or can’t remember anything, remind her that those are side effects of alcohol. Then watch as her face fills with contempt because you don’t agree that deep inside every man is a rapist. Women want to be seen as equals but they are not willing to shake the “I’m a helpless victim” mentality.

Roosh Vörek, Roosh V 39 Comments [1/21/2013 4:28:45 AM]
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I'd guess your typical mickey-slipper is hoping his mark will be rendered semiconscious and delirious so he can bullshit the bouncer that he's the victim's boyfriend and will "see her home safely".

That said, the most likely thing that some fucker's going to put in your drink is an extra shot of vodka. It's a lot easier to get away with, for starters.

1/21/2013 4:44:45 AM

aebars

It's been said once, it's been said six million times; we need a Sexists Say the Darndest Things subsection.

1/21/2013 5:11:15 AM



For starters, my friends who binge drink admit it. I've never known anyone to accuse a man of drugging her except for one, and that claim was found to be true.

Second: Just because a woman walks out of a bar with a man doesn't mean she will have sex with him.

Third: It's clear you're talking out of your ass about how this crime is committed. Drug-rapisis have in fact been recorded on surveillance camera literally dragging their victims out of clubs, when no one intervened.

Fourth: What part of "date rape" don't you understand? A large proportion of women who are raped with these drugs aren't in public places when their date drugs them. They're usually at someone's home.

Last: You seem to be implying that a man who rapes a woman who can't consent to sex because she's very drunk hasn't committed rape, because it's her fault she's intoxicated. The law and common decency say otherwise, so fuck you.


Idiot.

1/21/2013 5:35:07 AM

Indicible

Let's drug this fucker and give him a taste of the medicine he denies exists. We will see just who is the helpless victim, here.

1/21/2013 5:53:46 AM

Mister Spak

" I reverse accused the same girl of putting a roofie in my drink and she got to stay. There was a policeman there and I told him that if my friend really did that then why doesn’t he investigate and arrest someone. His response: “Get out of my face or I will arrest you.” "

Yes because a woman can rape a guy who is drugged unconcious and therefor completely nonfunctional.

1/21/2013 6:12:38 AM

Frostythesnowman

The drugs you mention tend to induce a state of disinhibition and amnesia rather than sudden unconciousness. I know this because I spent 30 years working in emergency medicine. You, on the other hand, give the impression that your knowledge is derived from more recreational circumstances.

1/21/2013 6:15:41 AM

John_in_Oz

And this concludes our study of confirmation bias for today.

1/21/2013 6:49:53 AM

hera

Lets see.
1. Date rape drugs are not meant to make the victim unconsious. They will render the victim incapable of making sound decisions, fighting back, and remembering anything about the rape. Oh and you won't find a pill in the drink either. Since that would make the 'succes rate' of date rape drugs a lot lower.
2. Source for the research, or it is invalid.
3. Yes there are woman that lie about rape. Most don't.
4. Why would the bouncer believe you? You accused a girl that just had gotten your friend kicked out. Such an obvious lie.
5.The contempt is because she just realized the complete lack of empathy. Not because she thinks all men are rapist (they're not), nor would she think that there are no female rapist (there are.)
6. I am not helpless, I've had to get rid of drunken customers at a bar. I can fight back if need be, I know where to place my knee if attacked by a man (and have done so unfortunatly) and have learned through experience that keys are a really effective weapon. I don't think that I will win any fight, but I know that I can fight back, and that alone doesn't make me a helpless victim.

1/21/2013 7:09:30 AM

Doubting Thomas

"Wimmens is all whores."

So, no woman anywhere has ever been the victim of date rape drugs, even though drugs like Rohypnol and roofies actually exist and would be very easy to slip into an unsuspecting woman's drink?

Oh and the reason that cop didn't take you seriously is because 1. Most men in bars are looking for a pickup anyway and don't need date rape drugs used on them, and 2. If a man was unconscious then it's hardly likely he'll have a sustainable erection.

1/21/2013 7:25:34 AM

Rabbit of Caerbannog

"If he is already able to leave the club with a girl, he doesn’t need drugs to have sex with her because she’ll have sex with him anyway."

And that makes it okay. Roosh V, everyone!

(Just so we're clear, we're not getting a Sexists Say the Darndest Things section. That was debated a while back and the answer was no.)

1/21/2013 9:18:00 AM



their are drugs that simply stop you retaining memory. Who is going to stop a guy "helping" his drunk girlfriend out to a car.

There are certainly punishments for making a false police report.

1/21/2013 9:26:17 AM

Ebon

Oh, DIAF.

1/21/2013 9:41:17 AM

Rabbit of Caerbannog

By the way, doesn't his face just scream Pick-Up Artist?


1/21/2013 9:59:59 AM

Cloning Blues

First time poster, though I've been lurking here for a while.

Anyway, let me say first of all that this guy is a jackass. A complete and unmitigated jackass who can't seem to understand that just because he or his friends wouldn't date rape a girl, doesn't mean somebody else won't. What's he going to do next, deny the existence of serial killers?

That said, the number of people who have made posts here to the effect of "men can't be date raped" worries me a little. It's less common, but it is doable (in fact somebody tried it on a friend of mine, who got braindamaged as a result). As several people have noted, roofies don't knock you out. They induce a state of disinhibition, disorientation, and amnesia--equally effective on a man or a woman. Worse yet, the availability of drugs meant to combat erectile disfunction removes the need for the man to be even slightly aroused--you hit him with a roofie, and then a Viagara. He's now confused, impaired, and erect. No consent required.

Finally, "Most men in bars are looking for a pickup anyway and don't need date rape drugs used on them," really? This statement is just wrong man. For starters, given the number of consensual hookups that happen at bars I could just as easily claim "most women in bars are looking for a pickup anyway and don't need date rape drugs used on them." Either way it's not true. When I go to the bar, I do so to hang out with my friends, as do many men and women all over the globe. As a last point, even if most men are there to get laid, there's no garuntee they're going to pick our prospective date-rapist, is there? Hence why she might drug him--to ensure she gets what she wants. Same reason why male rapists do it.

Again, I think Roosh Vorek here, is a repulsive bastard whom I hope never gets anywhere near a real woman. I just also think that we don't need to sound like him to mock him.

1/21/2013 10:55:40 AM

Blarghonius

Get out of your basement and go see an actual woman.

1/21/2013 11:03:11 AM

Cloning Blues

^I think doing that might give him a heart attack.

1/21/2013 11:04:15 AM

Fella

What a scumbag. He refuses to believe that girls are date raped. Not only does it happen in bars, but it happens in more private locations, too.

What he doesn't seem to realize is that, even if his theory about binge drinking and drug use is correct, then it still counts as date rape because the girl (or guy) cannot consent to sex.

In short, this is a disgusting post from start to finish.

1/21/2013 11:41:26 AM

GigaGuess

Alright then. Let's play it your way. Every single one of those women are just going and getting rolling, stinking drunk. They are still incapable of giving informed consent. If someone fucks them, IT IS STILL RAPE. Whether she's senseless because of Rohypnol nor alcohol, it is still not cool.

Oh, and by the way, you realize the reason why Rphypnol is chosen as the sedative of choice is because it dissolves quickly, it metabolizes quickly, and has no taste, right?

1/21/2013 11:45:06 AM

Hasan Prishtina

OK, Roosh, if a date rape accusation ever comes your way, let's see you try this shit out in court.

1/21/2013 12:32:52 PM


1/21/2013 12:41:32 PM

HappyGazpacho

Almost every girl I know has told me a “Some guy at the bar put something in my drink” story. And I never believe them.

Yeah, we're done here.

1/21/2013 1:44:28 PM

Old Viking

Is there a point hiding in this mental pabulum?

1/21/2013 2:17:42 PM

checkmate

Almost every girl I know has told me

Almost every one?

I assume you mean one of the two of them.

Strange, I don't know one who's told me that. But then again, my friends don't hang out getting drunk at bars, carry guns, get into fist fights, have arguments with cops, ...

1/21/2013 3:07:00 PM



Really? Then why do we fucking know exactly what GHB and it's affects are?

Go play in traffic you son of a bitch.

1/21/2013 4:02:58 PM



So... given that everything he said was true, if a woman passes out drunk it's suddenly OK to rape her?

1/21/2013 6:02:14 PM
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