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Earth to ETB (Evolutionism True Believer): science, pure science, seeks answers no matter what those answers might be. It does NOT rule out any answer for philosophical or ideological reasons. If all the research and studies and evidence point to an inevitable conclusion that this or that cannot possibly be explained other than by design, it is NOT scientific to reject that conclusion because one doesn't happen to like it.

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Evolutionism is a mindless, cultic religion that would rather believe in fairy tales than in what the evidence clearly demonstrates.

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You are "blocking its teaching" because you cannot disprove intelligent design coldly, logically and intellectually. If you ETBs were so bloody sure of your egregious mythology, you would welcome the opportunity to confront creationism and intelligent design in the classrooms and thoroughly disprove it. But you don't. Why is that?

The simple answer: ETBs are of a single mindset: "We cannot possibly refute what they are saying based on the existing evidence, so we will use the legislatures and the courts to censor all opposing viewpoints and enforce exclusivity for our outrageous pseudoscience."

And ETBs have the brass balls to call their fabulous fiction a "science".

DoctorDoom, Where Liberty Dwells 39 Comments [1/25/2013 4:25:47 AM]
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Titania

shiny mirror

1/25/2013 5:16:47 AM

Arctic Knight

Real science does not insert "goddidit" when an answer is still unknown. Real science does not insert "goddidit" when someone doesn't like the answer that's been discovered.

1/25/2013 5:21:32 AM

AJ

It's amusing that creationists claim that "blocking the teaching" of creationism somehow validates it. By that measure, they themselves proved evolution a long time ago by legally prohibiting its teaching.

1/25/2013 5:27:16 AM



Evolutionism is a mindless, cultic religion that would rather believe in fairy tales

Pesky evolutionists always trying to tell us that snakes and donkeys can talk... Oh wait.

1/25/2013 5:40:59 AM

Another swede

Yes, classrooms are clearly the best places to test scientific theories.

1/25/2013 5:49:27 AM

Pule Thamex

Yes we know Bible God's magic words created everything, as is proven in the Bible, but Lord Athe has promised us a wonderful world of reality if we worship him instead. I'm inclined to, since Lord Athe has knocked Bible God into a cocked hat.

1/25/2013 5:50:58 AM

The Watcher

Why in the world would scientists want evolution debated in classrooms?

1/25/2013 6:06:14 AM

Doubting Thomas

science, pure science, seeks answers no matter what those answers might be.

True, that's why science finds no evidence of a god or any evidence that life was created and evolved by anything other than natural forces. Too bad Christians can't accept that science has been finding answers far away from their beloved book of superstition.

1/25/2013 6:18:01 AM

Dr.Shrinker

"You are "blocking its teaching" because you cannot disprove intelligent design coldly, logically and intellectually."

- As we learned in Kitzmiller vs. Dover, ID cannot be successfully defended, therefore it has no place in a science class.

1/25/2013 6:21:26 AM

ordalca

"The simple answer: ETBs are of a single mindset: "We cannot possibly refute what they are saying based on the existing evidence, so we will use the legislatures and the courts to censor all opposing viewpoints and enforce exclusivity for our outrageous pseudoscience.""

A simple answer, true. Not a correct one, but a simple one.

1/25/2013 6:27:00 AM

Filin De Blanc

"If all the research and studies and evidence point to an inevitable conclusion that this or that cannot possibly be explained other than by design, it is NOT scientific to reject that conclusion because one doesn't happen to like it."

Yeah, but that's never happened.

1/25/2013 7:09:42 AM

SpukiKitty

Have these bozos ever considered that a huge chunk of evolution-believers are also spiritual, religious folks...many of them devout, church-going Christians?

1/25/2013 7:40:33 AM

Hasan Prishtina

If all the research and studies and evidence point to an inevitable conclusion that this or that cannot possibly be explained other than by design, it is NOT scientific to reject that conclusion because one doesn't happen to like it.

This sounds reasonable. Except that all the studies and evidence do not point to that conclusion, but rather the other way.

And if you have the evidence, you have nothing to fear, for the courts will rule in your favor. But they haven't, have they?

1/25/2013 8:07:33 AM

rubber chicken

Which "research and studies and evidence point to an inevitable conclusion that this or that cannot possibly be explained other than by design," exactly ?

You don't have any. You parrot this shit again and again yet when challenged to front up with the studies or the research or the evidence you clam up like a cop on trial.

1/25/2013 8:23:43 AM

Anon-e-moose

Still smarting after having such kicked to Hell & back in late 2005 via Kitzmiller vs. Dover eh, Creationists? After all these years?

Your butt. It is hurt, Duckturd Dumb. >:D

@SpukiKitty

"Have these bozos ever considered that a huge chunk of evolution-believers are also spiritual, religious folks...many of them devout, church-going Christians?"

Or that - like the Church of England...:



...they know that much of the Bible isn't to be taken literally; as in said much of the fundies' precious 'Scripture' is purely fable and metaphor. Which certainly includes Genesis. Hey, Duckturd Dumb, if even the Catholic church can accept Evolution as fact (and ultimately admit that Galileo was right all along; they had to accept that the Big Bang is fact too), then what does the fact that Charles Darwin (who in his early years was in training to be part of the C-of-E's clergy; only from his discoveries to his death was he an Agnostic) being buried & memorialised in Westminster Abbey, the C-of-E's central place of worship, tell you...?!

PROTIP: "On the Origin of Species" sold more than the Bible at the time of it's first publication. Nope, not seeing any mention of any 'Papal Bull'-like, Fatwa-esque edicts against said book by the Archbishop of Canterbury - or even Queen Victoria, the then head of the Church of England. And speaking of which, the current head of the C-of-E, Queen Elizabeth II:



Would you seriously believe, Duckturd Dumb, that she (who has final power of veto over any potential design of banknote/coin, prior to circulation) would have approved of his image on the back of the £10 note, if her own devout Christian beliefs were threatened in any way by the paradigm-shifting, nay, potentially beliefs-destroying discoveries made by Darwin?!

1/25/2013 8:36:19 AM



simple solution, expose the class to anthrax. Let half pray for a cure while others take an antibiotic.

After three weeks , the living get a A.

science as practised is methodological naturalism. No supernatural stuff allowed, so the obvious stuff like "rainbows come from the tails of flying unicorns" while unquestionably TRUE is not allowed so you have to find diffraction of light through water droplets.

1/25/2013 8:38:23 AM

Papabear

"science, pure science, seeks answers no matter what those answers might be. It does NOT rule out any answer for philosophical or ideological reasons."

True, but neither does it give special treatment to beloved old tales which are patently wrong.

"If you ETBs were so bloody sure of your egregious mythology, you would welcome the opportunity to confront creationism and intelligent design in the classrooms and thoroughly disprove it."

Debate among the students is not the way to establish facts. There few serious points of contention regarding evolution. They mostly involve mechanisms and cladistics. That evolution happens is accepted by essentially all serious scientists.

1/25/2013 8:57:24 AM

freako104

Learn what evolution is then shut up Doctor Doom

1/25/2013 10:01:54 AM

J. James

"You are "blocking its teaching" because you cannot disprove intelligent design coldly, logically and intellectually."

Wrong. We destroyed creationism in Kitzmiller v. Dover. It's so thoroughly dead, we would rather go on teaching the FACTS of nature and science rather than waste time debunking the absurd nonsense of creationism...

Not to mention the fact that you bitch and complain about wanting "equal treatment" in the classroom, which roughly translates to "wahhh don't use your evolution to disprove my fantasies wahhh."

1/25/2013 10:24:31 AM

Sasha

As I recall, it wasn't the evolutionists that started the ball rolling in Dover; it was the cdesign proponentsists. And they were resoundingly crushed by Judge Jones, a conservative Republican with a low threshold for bullshit. Try whining at him. But stay out of reach of his gavel.

1/25/2013 11:11:42 AM

Ludd

Clearly he's living in the bizarro world version of Earth.

1/25/2013 11:28:57 AM

solomongrundy

As Anon-e-moose has already posted a pic of a Bank of England £10 note here's something else approved by the Queen(head of the Church of England), a £2 coin.




1/25/2013 11:51:03 AM

Anon-e-moose

@solomongrundy

...oh, and to confuse a stupid person (such as Duckturd Dumb) even further, one of the 2012 London Olympics issue coins; the 50p:



Thank fuck (for him, at least) Cricket wasn't one of the (demonstration) events. I mean, if one tries to explain the rules of Cricket to an American, an intelligent one is dumbfounded, imagine if it was a fundie?! I mean, cranial gore due to head 'splodyness is a bitch to wash out of one's clothes! X3

'Evolutionism is a mindless, cultic religion' eh?:



...what, your precious 'Jesus' not good enough to feature in your 1996 Atlanta or 1984 Los Angeles Olympics, unlike Darwin, on one of the jumps in the Equestrian Arena at our 2012 London Olympics, Duckturd Dumb?!

1/25/2013 12:48:11 PM

Osiris

Creationists don't have arguments. They just have sandwich boards they wear around themselves that advertise how little they know.

1/25/2013 2:05:31 PM

Old Viking

Doctor, you're ambulatory refutation of intelligent design.

1/25/2013 2:26:24 PM
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