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In 2007 the Texas Legislature passed a law encouraging the state’s public schools to teach about the influence of the Bible in history and literature. Schools can do that either by weaving such instruction into existing social studies and literature courses, or they can create full courses about the Bible. Today the Texas Freedom Network Education Fund released a report, authored by a religious studies professor at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, that examines what students are learning in the 57 school districts and three charter schools that teach Bible courses. Examples from Texas public schools:

•Instructional material in two school districts teach that racial diversity today can be traced back to Noah’s sons, a long-discredited claim that has been a foundational component of some forms of racism.

•Religious bias is common, with most courses taught from a Protestant — often a conservative Protestant — perspective. One course, for example, assumes Christians will at some point be “raptured.” Materials include a Venn diagram showing the pros and cons of theories that posit the rapture before the returning Jesus’ 1,000-year reign and those that place it afterward. In many courses, the perspectives of Roman Catholics, Orthodox Christians and Jews are often left out.

•Anti-Jewish bias — intentional or not — is not uncommon. Some courses even portray Judaism as a flawed and incomplete religion that has been replaced by Christianity.

•Many courses suggest or openly claim that the Bible is literally true. “The Bible is the written word of God,” students are told in one PowerPoint presentation. Some courses go so far as to suggest that the Bible can be used to verify events in history. One district, for example, teaches students that the Bible’s historical claims are largely beyond question by listing biblical events side by side with historical developments from around the globe.

•Course materials in numerous classes are designed to evangelize rather than provide an objective study of the Bible’s influence. A book in one district makes its purpose clear in the preface: “May this study be of value to you. May you fully come to believe that ‘Jesus is the Christ, the son of God.’ And may you have ‘life in His name.’”

•A number of courses teach students that the Bible proves Earth is just 6,000 years old.

•Students are taught that the United States is a Christian nation founded on the Christian biblical principles taught in their classrooms.

•Academic rigor is so poor that many courses rely mostly on memorization of Bible verses and factoids from Bible stories rather than teaching students how to analyze what they are studying. One district relies heavily on Bible cartoons from Hanna-Barbera for its high school class. Students in another district spend two days watching what lesson plans describe a “the historic documentary Ancient Aliens,” which presents “a new interpretation of angelic beings described as extraterrestrials.”

Texas Public Schools, TFN Insider 80 Comments [1/25/2013 4:28:25 AM]
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We should start a petition to get the U.S. Government to relocate The Far-Right to Texas & let it secede! We should go to various Petition sites & create a petition to make this a reality. It'll be a great social experiment! Who's with me on this?

1/25/2013 8:09:19 AM

Hasan Prishtina

Cartoons. Aliens. This they call education.

I don't buy the pessimism either. The races against Todd Akin and Richard Mourdoch show that, however vocal and persistent they are, we are more powerful, and they will take their supporters to defeat even in places where they're normally guaranteed victory. The fundies have been with us for over a century and, as they never forget to remind us, the direction of society has not been favorable to them over that time.

If I'm wrong, then it should be the US that starts proceedings to secede from Texas.

1/25/2013 8:18:14 AM


“The Bible is the written word of God”

Anyone who has read the Bible knows this cannot be true. The Bible itself never makes this claim

1/25/2013 8:18:57 AM


Completely ignoring the point that the courses were to be "the influence of the Bible in history and literature."

Perhaps they should offer a course called "ridiculous crap you might read in the Bible or hear from a$$hat Fundies." They seem perpared for that.

1/25/2013 8:38:53 AM



These bozos probably thing the film "Stargate" is a documentary.

Wow. This is serious Erich von Daniken woo-woo land we're entering here!

1/25/2013 8:59:33 AM


I wonder if since they're saying influence on history, the Spanish Inquisition, Crusuades, Salem Witch Trials, witch burnings, the world leaders whose attitude was convert or die will be given. Also I can see this backfiring where some become atheist, agnostic, Pagan, etc. But then the fundies will whine about that. Maybe they'll realise this was stupid and should not do this. I hope it never comes to pass for all sakes

1/25/2013 9:56:13 AM


Aha. That is why there are so many stupid people in Texas. I hope they have learned their lesson.

1/25/2013 10:03:55 AM

J. James

It saddens me to see people dissing the state of Texas. Did you know that it only takes about 55% right-wingers, and 40% of those are fundies, to pull of this kind of illegal, unconstitutional horseshit? The other 45% of Texas are perfectly normal people, even liberals, suffering under the unfathomable stupidity and gross, destructive incompetence of Texas legislatures and leadership.

So yeah- don't think that your state won't go to pot immediately if the 45% that votes for this kind of bullshit suddenly finds itself in power. Don't think that your "enlightened" state's culture will protect you, or even the law and constitution, because they won't. The only thing different about Texas is that they have enough crazies to make a majority, so can you really afford to criticize?

Besides that, I really don't think any of you realize how much the fundies cheat in order to gain and keep power. Do you really think that they would be put off of questionably legal election-rigging tactics if doing something as blatantly unconstitutional as this gives them no qualms whatsoever? After all, these people think they ARE morality incarnate, all laws and good should come from THEM and suit THEIR desires.

This is how they are able to justify having an electoral map so completely and hopelessly rigged and gerrymandered in favor of extremist Republicans, Democrats are almost unheard of. The heavily blue-leaning city of Austin, for example, has been "cracked" into six separate rural districts, effectively giving the hundreds of thousands of Democratic voters there no say and no voice. If Texans were represented proportional to their actual electoral makeup, then the state would be unrecognizable compared to what it is today.

1/25/2013 10:16:25 AM



I'm sorry to say this, but I think we have as much to fear a fundie takeover, as fundies have to fear a homosexual takeover.

Yeah? Then why is it that the GOP was able to gerrymander districts to the point that they can lose by 1.5 million votes and still retain a 30 seat lead in the House of Representatives? Why is it that they recently were able to pass a bill to redistrict Virginia AND have the winner of the most districts (not the most votes) win all of Virginia's electoral votes? They don't NEED a majority to force their will on us. They just need enough to be able to bend the rules in their favor. If you're not afraid of the fundies cheating their way into power then you haven't been paying attention to what they've been doing.

1/25/2013 10:38:21 AM


Unreal. I can't believe that this horrible violation of the 1st amendment is being carried out by the same people who probably claim to worship at the feet of the Constitution.

I don't even know what I feel worse about-- the students sitting in class who KNOW that this is bullshit and that they aren't being allowed to learn to their full potential, or the students who are so thoroughly brainwashed that they embrace this wholeheartedly and will someday want their own children to be educated in the same manner.

Either way, looks like it's absolute hell to be a liberal/moderate/non-fundie in Texas.

1/25/2013 11:08:30 AM



The South. Making America look stupid since 1861.

Why are you saying this? It is not correct. North Dakota is just as stupid as any southern state and Michele Bachman comes from Wisconsin which hardly can be called a southern state.

This is not a southern state problem but a US problem!

1/25/2013 11:15:13 AM


"One district relies heavily on Bible cartoons from Hanna-Barbera for its high school class."

Oh you mean that Creationist documentary 'The Flintstones'?

Ancient Aliens??? Seriously, what the fuck?

1/25/2013 11:24:30 AM

Street Sharks

@ J James

"So yeah- don't think that your state won't go to pot immediately if the 45% that votes for this kind of bullshit suddenly finds itself in power. Don't think that your "enlightened" state's culture will protect you......."

That will never happen here in New York.

1/25/2013 12:10:33 PM


Gargling horribly was my intial response.

then fear. Both texas and ok have fallen under the black cloud of christian dominists, and my state is just above OK. Oh god...

1/25/2013 12:12:14 PM

J. James

@Street Sharks

Oh? Maybe they won't find themselves in power in your state, but fat lot of good that does to states teetering on the edge of Crazy Majority Rules. Virginia, Michigan and others come to mind. Hell, Texas itself is kinda purplish, and getting bluer. But the point is that republican extremists like this don't play by the rules, they will shut down democracy wherever possible, and they will trash the Constitution when it doesn't suit them.

Even when they lose, they win. Just look at the House of Representatives- 1.1 million more votes for Democratic candidates, and they have more than a 30 seat advantage.

Moreover, what if the federal government is taken over by these lunatics? What then? Their edicts nullify yours, so theoretically your liberal state would be completely powerless if the house, senate and White House all turned nuts.

And how's this for nightmare fuel- imagine a Supreme Court packed with extremists like Scalia, or worse. Those five could single-handedly abrogate all the societal advancements of the last CENTURY. Bye-bye, gay marriage, abortion, health care, progressive taxation, etc...

1/25/2013 12:52:46 PM


Well, J.James. Perhaps we need to make
gerrymandering illegal and put the kibosh on all this before it's too big to handle!

In the meantime, Progressives should move to red districts! No biggie!

Stay positive, that's what the strong do.

1/25/2013 1:12:29 PM

the king james bible is a wonderful book and it should be taught in school
in english lit
not in fucking science

1/25/2013 1:15:37 PM

Just another reason why America is a joke to the rest of the civilized world.

1/25/2013 1:25:41 PM

Hasan Prishtina

Michele Bachman comes from Wisconsin which hardly can be called a southern state.

She's from Minnesota, thank you.

1/25/2013 1:36:33 PM

Cloning Blues

Texas. Because everything sucks bigger in Texas.

So very glad I'm Canadian.

1/25/2013 2:08:59 PM

Old Viking

Let's remember that the people who pass these bills are as monumentally ignorant as those who advocate them. The legislators, in all sincerity, think (I use the word in its loose construction) this sort of indoctrination is a very good thing. And regardless of the observations of J. James, you're never going to hear someone say, "I'd like to get involved in some good intellectual discussions. I think I'll take a trip to Texas."

1/25/2013 2:11:32 PM


It's funny all this, but quite concerning.
I went to quite a strict Catholic school here in the UK. We had religious education classes, which mostly consisted of copying down prayers as far as I remember, and which no-one took very seriously. We also had masses in the assembly hall, presided over by a priest.
But the Bible and Christianity were never mentioned in any of the other classes. Religion was never brought up or became an issue in any science or history class. I'm not really sure why it must be so in these schools in Texas.

1/25/2013 2:38:16 PM


Hasan Prishtina

She's from Minnesota, thank you.

Of course she is! Thank you for the correction

Wisconsin is just as crazy though, see all the idiocy enacted by Gov. Walker, Ohio is not far behind. I still stand behind the claim this is not a southern state issue, it's a national issue. And Minnesota isn't exactly a southern state either.

1/25/2013 3:08:02 PM


I can't wait to see the fundie reaction the first time Texas votes for a Democrat as President in decades.

1/25/2013 3:34:35 PM

Rabbit of Caerbannog

Okay, break it up, y'all.

Every state has stupid and sane people. As Bill Maher said, it's tough to be a smart person in a "stupid state." Let's try to cut each other some slack.

1/25/2013 3:41:57 PM

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