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Most men pollute the earth for the sheer pleasure of it, not just as the by-product of their industries. Men love to leave their mark as a territorial statement, just as many male animals mark “their” territories by spraying. Of course, human males also mark with urine, as anyone who’s been in a public telephone booth knows. Even when public toilets are available, men leave their smell and mark on objects in ways females don’t.1

Some Lesbians say in anger that men are such “animals,” but that’s insulting to animals. Of course all mammals, including humans, are animals, but men are the least natural of animals. European-descent men in particular seem to have the goal of creating a completely artificial world2 and have left their mark on the earth forever by altering the natural landscape in many places. They kill forests, build their ugly cities, change the land’s shape with their destructive farming and mining methods, and they’re even changing the weather.3 They’ve exterminated countless plants and animals, and their murder of entire species is accelerating. Their radioactive and toxic chemical wastes will contaminate many parts of the earth for hundreds of thousands of years. Plutonium, which is completely man-made, remains deadly for 250,000 years. One sixteenth of a millionth of a gram can kill a person, and men have already made thousands of pounds of it.4 If we didn’t know this was true, it would be hard to believe. Even so, it’s still unimaginable except in nightmares. Man has truly left his mark on his territory and, for the most part, he’s very proud of himself.

People speak of “man’s inhumanity to man,” because the effect on females isn’t even considered. But Man enjoys his power and cruelty. It makes him more of a man. A male nuclear scientist who watched numerous nuclear explosions said what a “rush” it was because, “A male human being likes to see an explosion.”5 (And there are over 50,000 nuclear weapons on earth.)

Bev Jo, Lesbian Radical Feminist Writing 53 Comments [4/20/2013 7:03:11 PM]
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John_in_Oz

BJ, do you mind if I call you BJ? It's just so cute to see you have a tanty like that.
I don't normally go for condescending, but seeing someone use a computer to post on the Internet about how much better the natural world is, leaves me feeling I'm not being condescending enough.

4/21/2013 7:16:47 AM

Seeker Lancer

Stop living in a house and using a computer then you hypocritical asshole.

You're not winning any sympathy railing against the "unnatural world" while basking in its comforts.

4/21/2013 7:27:33 AM

UHM

"People speak of “man’s inhumanity to man,” because the effect on females isn’t even considered."
That's not how English works.

4/21/2013 7:47:14 AM

Papabear

Blah, blah, blah. Angry lesbians bashing all men. Lacks nuance.

P.S. I'm not going to start a nuclear war to see explosions.

4/21/2013 7:51:17 AM



So, you think all men are Captain Planet villains?

4/21/2013 8:21:17 AM

Baked Goods

“A male human being likes to see an explosion.”

I don't, I actually prefer theater or opera and very occasionally, lesbian porn. Does that mean I'm allowed to live? Or do I need to be neutered to be permitted to exist in your imaginary utopia? :(

4/21/2013 8:41:54 AM



Men aren't natural? What? Was I made in a factory?

4/21/2013 10:20:03 AM

farpadokly

You know who I blame? Marie Curie.

4/21/2013 10:59:27 AM

Old Viking

We bad, we bad.

4/21/2013 11:21:53 AM

farpadokly

Commented on this, but "my comment is awaiting moderation". Something tells me that they won't publish it, on the grounds that I possess a penis, the man-hating idiots.

4/21/2013 11:24:13 AM

Agahnim

Chill out.

4/21/2013 12:56:01 PM

Liberal Christian

This is the radical feminism that all the misogynists over at Spearhead and Men Going Their Own Way always moan about. Thankfully, it's a small minority.

4/21/2013 1:21:53 PM

Snarker

Oh yeah, us men are animals, all right. Guess what pumpkin, so are you.

4/21/2013 1:48:50 PM

The Anonymous

Radical feminism mixed with a touch of racism.

Did you know that white men aren't the only group of humans to have despoiled their environment? The best example would be the Easter Islanders, who certainly weren't white. They deforested their land with no help from white men. Throw in other groups of people like the Maori and the Malagasy, who's arrival to their homelands signaled the extinction of numerous animals. And I would bet that their women were right there beside them helping them every step of the way.

And no, being a man does not make me a Captain Planet villain who jerks off to videos of nuclear explosions. I also don't spray on public phone booths (haven't seen any in a decade) or toilet seats, I'm pretty clean. You, on the other hand, are nothing but a collection of feminist stereotypes.

4/21/2013 3:25:42 PM

Grogs

@farpadokly: "You know who I blame? Marie Curie."

Close, but you should probably blame Lise Meitner. She's the woman that discovered nuclear fission - the discovery that ultimately led to the first atom bomb about 7 years later. And as somebody else pointed out, most of the people who were enriching the uranium and separating the plutonium were women. There was a war on, and with a large portion of the men overseas fighting, those jobs naturally fell to women.

4/21/2013 3:36:43 PM

Ebon

Y'know, if you're a lesbian, fine. Go be the best lesbian you can be. But this is just straight-up male hatred.

4/21/2013 5:35:54 PM

AbsurdONE

I have to wonder what the men in her life ever did to her to make her such an angry and hateful bitch.

I wonder if she genuinely even is a lesbian, or just so hateful of men that she's made herself into an approximation of a lesbian. Given how she writes on her blog that heterosexuality is optional, and that all hetero and bi women are sellouts, I'm inclined to think it's the latter case.

Must be an awful life, pretending to be something you're not because you hate the alternative so much. Oh well, tough shit — harpies get no sympathy from me.

4/22/2013 12:55:03 AM

Canuovea

This stabbing pain in my gut? Is that... is that what sexism feels like?

...No, wait, never mind. That must be what happens when you mix almond butter, yogurt, and maple syrup together, eat it, and follow it with milk. Cheers.

Damn, thats disgusting. Strangely entertaining, but disgusting too. Wait, I forgot if I was thinking about the post or the yogurt? Meh, close enough either way.

Though here's an ironic observation... Some people here say this person isn't really a feminist (because feminism is about "equality"). Isn't that a "no true Scotsman" fallacy?

4/22/2013 1:02:31 AM

Paler_Face

People like Bev Jo are the reason why I don't call myself a feminist.
When you say the word 'Feminist' anywhere, there will be associations to nutcases like Bev, and I don't need that in my life.

4/22/2013 1:45:42 AM

basiorana

Canuovea: The definition of feminism is "a movement advocating for social, political, legal, and economic rights for women equal to those of men." Thus she is not a feminist because her views do not meet the definition of feminism. You know, like how a person can't say "I'm an atheist, but I still believe in god." You can call out that person without invoking No True Scotsman, same applies here.

4/22/2013 4:38:24 AM

Hasan Prishtina

Not been to East Asia, have we?

4/22/2013 5:32:17 AM

Doubting Thomas

We get it. Some guy treated you bad some time in the past. Don't demonize all of us for what that one guy did.

4/22/2013 6:09:02 AM

TB Tabby

Most men pollute the earth for the sheer pleasure of it, not just as the by-product of their industries.

You seem to have learned all you know about environmentalism from Captain Planet.

4/22/2013 6:20:11 AM

Canuovea

basiorana,

Seems to me that this Bev Jo would have a different definition of feminism than you (and the dictionary).

I've read radical feminists who dismiss the idea of equality and say it is the wrong way to go about measuring success.

http://evebitfirst.wordpress.com/2011/05/03/equal-to-whom-exactly/

If you are interested.

They'd certainly say they are feminists. Point being, the dictionary isn't quite the be all and end all. Not that I agree with the idea, but it is still a No True Scotsman fallacy. Equality is as essentially a part of Feminism as Love is an essential part of Christianity.

And we know love isn't a necessary part of Christianity.

4/22/2013 10:43:19 AM



@Canuovea

Don't bother, Canuovea, people here love to feel superior to everyone they deem fundies, and they have decided that feminism is the PC alternative and men deciding to go their own way is mysogynistic.

that's why I stopped coming here some time ago, got tired of the brighter than thou attitude towards ALL kinds of "fundies" and the usual anger at anyone who dared to question the "feminism is good" dogma.

4/26/2013 9:02:03 AM
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