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The date rape issue can be solved overnight by restoring shotgun marriage—but with the shotgun at the woman’s back. The “victim” should be told to get into the kitchen and fix supper for her new lord and master. Not exactly a match made in heaven, but at least the baby will have both a father and a mother. Furthermore, after the birth of her child, the woman will have more important things to worry about than whether the act by which she conceived it accorded with some feminist professor’s newfangled notion of “true consent.” Childbirth has always been the best remedy for female narcissism.

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It is necessary to act quickly. It took us half a century to get into our present mess, but we do not have that long to get out of it. A single-generation Zeugungsstreik will destroy us. So we cannot wait for women to come to their senses; we must take charge and begin the painful process of unspoiling them.

F. Roger Devlin, Counter Currents 86 Comments [5/12/2013 3:27:25 AM]
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Arctic Knight

Thankfully, in the U.S., laws are not based on the Bible, because this guy seems to want to use a literal interpretation of Deuteronomy 22:28-29.

5/12/2013 3:40:53 AM

Stonespiral

If this guy ever did get his way and I was forced to marry my theoretical rapist, I'd be up for murder charges the next morning. My 'husband' would have to sleep some time. Until then Mr. Devlin can kiss my 'spoiled' ass.

5/12/2013 4:05:03 AM

OhJohnNo

This is jaw-dropping.

5/12/2013 4:09:10 AM

snide

Go to Ohio, talk to the Berry family. Then diaf.

5/12/2013 4:24:51 AM

Robespierre

Note to social conservatives:
the kinds of society you advocate have already been tested repeatedly (hence the name conservatives) and they suck.

5/12/2013 4:27:59 AM

Reynardine

Half century? I assure you I was here half a century ago, and conversant with people who were here quite a bit before that; your "marrying man" would have taken up his (possibly last) marital abode at Raiford.

5/12/2013 4:37:22 AM

Ebon

I have a much better way for you to use that shotgun...

5/12/2013 4:46:56 AM

dylanstrategie

I guess the diagnosis is simple, especially since he's obsessed with armed domination on women

He needs to get laid (or end up in a mental institute that is)

5/12/2013 5:00:05 AM



No, boys, he doesn't need to get laid. Unless one of you is up for it, 'cos I don't want to wish him on any woman who ever lived.

5/12/2013 5:16:34 AM

KittyKaboom

The extreme pity I feel for any woman who happens upon your path is only exceeded by the raw, intense fucking hatred I experience in regard to you. You are a Troglodyte, unfit for either marriage or procreation. Your brain and your dick size are equal. Both are useless.

5/12/2013 5:48:14 AM



What should we do, then, in the case of gang rape?, or if the rapist is already married? or if the victim is already married, for that matter?, or if it's the brother or the father of the victim?. What if the rapist can't marry the victim because of economic reasons or divorces her right after the marriage?. See how many loopholes?

5/12/2013 5:54:38 AM

Noneofyourbusiness

Is that a cartoon villain speaking?

5/12/2013 6:16:38 AM

MadmanJohnson

I have a finger I can use to respond to this. Fuck you, sexist son of a bitch.

5/12/2013 6:19:28 AM

Passerby

As I'm sure most of you are aware by now, my response to people that think this way involves me frothing at the mouth and promising truly disturbing acts of violence should they even think of acting out their disgusting little fantasy.

5/12/2013 6:36:56 AM

John_in_Oz

I looked up Zeugungsstreik and learned it means 'procreation strike'.
Who would have thought there was a word for that, eh?
I'll have to add it to the list of fantasies the crazies fear, along with the Zombie Apocalypse, the Rapture and the Illuminati.

5/12/2013 7:23:51 AM

Hasan Prishtina

The date rape issue can be solved overnight by restoring shotgun marriage—but with the shotgun at the woman’s back.

The point of the shotgun was to make the man live up to his responsibilities towards the child. No mention of that here, so there's little hope of it working. I've got a better idea: how about not raping women?

some feminist professor’s newfangled notion of “true consent.”

So let's stick with the one in the Offences Against The Person Act 1828. Oh, BTW, the rapist gets the death penalty. I'm not in favor of the death penalty but, in your case, I'll make an exception.

5/12/2013 7:28:51 AM

Hertzyscowicz

Zegungsstreik:
A word in the German language, which therefore should not be used when speaking or writing English, meaning literally Procreation Strike; The moronic notion that regarding women as human beings means an utter stop to procreation.

5/12/2013 7:29:00 AM

Hal Jordan

What the actual fuck is wrong with you?

Was your mother beaten and raped in front of you or something? I genuinely believe that you have had to witness some seriously violent actions performed by your dad on your mother.

It's ok, Roger Devlin, you can admit it. There are therapists you can talk to. You'll get better over time if you let it all out.

5/12/2013 7:45:24 AM

Solipsism for Jesus

Hertzyscowicz - but we need to use German words, and every other language words, in English. That's what English is for. We don't get words like schadenfreude, flotilla, affidavit, stilletto, or crescendo from earlier English language words. There is a saying that English borrows from other languages, and then there is a saying that English mugs other languages in dark allies. No one thinks that English is a pure-bred language like French which has a council to decide of words enter into their language. We just have a throng of people who track word usage and if words get used often enough, they are accepted. "Noob" is an old example.

5/12/2013 7:53:50 AM

checkmate

@Hertzyscowicz

Zegungsstreik:
... meaning literally Procreation Strike; The moronic notion that regarding women as human beings means an utter stop to procreation.


Not really.

The word is not in the "official" German dictionary. (www.duden.de), meaning it's one of those ad hoc compound nouns so common in German.

A glance at the German google hits for that word describe a certain unwillingness of young men to commit themselves to having children, i.e. to starting families.

The reasons quoted are mainly economic worries, more years spent on education (including time on scholarships), unwillingness to hamper career goals, a rising sense of independence, and a lower sense of permanent spouse commitment at an "earlier" age (= <35).

Some quote a deliberate refusal in younger men to have children because of a perceived growing instability in the institution of marriage, e.g. through rising divorce rates, which would cause them to lose the family. That results in a mindset of "why bother?". A counter-reaction to this is the dramatic increase in "patchwork" families.

The "Zeugungsstreik" is not seen as a delibrate strike movement but more of a trend that has slowly crept into society.

This is certainly not just a German phenomenon, but is increasing throughout Europe and the US.

The reasons in the OP are total bullshit and having nothing to do with the social phenomenon described by the word "Zeugungsstreik".

Btw, it seems the word was coined by a journalist in the title of this book:


5/12/2013 8:04:18 AM

Taiga

So men won't rape women if they have to marry them after, because no rapist likes the idea of having the "right" to rape and abuse his victim every day, right? Or would that just "solve the date-rape issue" because they wouldn't have to be prosecuted for it?

I don't think it's that hard to understand that "true consent" involves everybody awake and not drugged. But apparently even that is too "newfangled" for a Stone Age proto-human like Devlin.

5/12/2013 8:17:39 AM

Frostythesnowman

Now don't laugh at this, but none of these issues are a problem for people who aren't rapists.

5/12/2013 8:44:17 AM



yes indeed, the kitchen.

because a rapist deserves to eat food prepared by his victim. Taste the arsenic, ratbait, cyanide. Those are not roasted almonds lol

5/12/2013 9:00:29 AM

fishtank

And in a few years he gets murdered by his "wife".

5/12/2013 9:13:23 AM

J. James

Fuck off and die, you misogynistic prick. This would "solve" nothing, and you know it.

5/12/2013 9:14:53 AM
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