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When women start doing what men have traditionally done, yours is a civilization of the setting sun. This is brought to mind when pondering a recent Pew Research Center study showing that women are now the primary or sole breadwinners in 40 percent of American households. You may have heard the story – it created quite a stir on Fox News, with Greta Van Susteren and Megyn Kelly (who became quite hysterical) taking exception to male colleagues' warnings about the development's sociological implications. But if these two ladies, and the other critics, had reacted rationally and not emotionally, they would realize what is obvious:

The rise in female breadwinners is a sign of a civilization in decline.

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And, no, it isn't good when you destroy patriarchy. Why? G.K. Chesterton put it best when he wrote, "What is called matriarchy is simply moral anarchy, in which the mother alone remains fixed because all the fathers are fugitive and irresponsible." If you want matriarchy, just go into the black community. Women rule the roost there, but they reign in a hell born of degraded morals and family breakdown. There has never been a successful matriarchy – the notion of a matriarchal prehistory is a myth – and there never will be.

This is why, ultimately, the feminist model is destined for the dustbin of history. The only system that ensures the perpetuation of civilization (replacement-level birth rates) is patriarchy; the only system that compels women and men to fulfill their responsibilities to hearth and home is patriarchy. And this is why, barring the end of man or a dystopian future in which children are lab-created assembly-line style to be the collective's drones, patriarchy is inevitable.

Selwyn Duke, Renew America 31 Comments [6/22/2013 8:59:44 AM]
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Happy Atheist

Feminists don't want a matriarchy.

It's called equality, the clue is in the name.

6/22/2013 9:07:05 AM



Why is it that Megyn Kelly correcting her sexist co-workers makes her "hysterical"? Pig.

6/22/2013 9:42:23 AM

UHM

"When women start doing what men have traditionally done, yours is a civilization of the setting sun."
You mean because night time is cooler?

"Megyn Kelly (who became quite hysterical)"
Yeah, she was really hysterical - citing scientific studies and all.

"The rise in female breadwinners is a sign of a civilization in decline."
Funny that, because in the 80s it lead to never before seen economic boom and still does today. Why is it that these people don't understand that women having to stay at home is basically like having 50% of your population unemployed and dependent on others?

<G.K. Chesterton put it best when he wrote, "What is called matriarchy is simply moral anarchy, in which the mother alone remains fixed because all the fathers are fugitive and irresponsible.">
That's not what matriarchy is.

"If you want matriarchy, just go into the black community. Women rule the roost there, but they reign in a hell born of degraded morals and family breakdown."
Because there have never been any bad white parents, nor any white drug addicted parents. Nah it's all about skin color - 'cuz them niggars are stupid.

" There has never been a successful matriarchy […] and there never will be."
Except the Minangkabau, Mosou, pre-islamic Tuareg, Iroqouis, Navajo, Palau, Trobriand peoples, Khasi, Garo, Akan, Makonde, Serer, Chewa, Akebu, Wayúu, Warao, Hopi, Guahibo and probably many more.

"the notion of a matriarchal prehistory is a myth"
Would you actually care to tell us why?

"The only system that ensures the perpetuation of civilization (replacement-level birth rates) is patriarchy; the only system that compels women and men to fulfill their responsibilities to hearth and home is patriarchy."
We are seven billion, I don't think we're going to die out any time soon.

6/22/2013 10:22:56 AM

freako104

Sexist Say the Darndest things. That said Selwyn Duke fails at life.

6/22/2013 10:31:45 AM



10/10 would laugh again

6/22/2013 11:11:40 AM

Papabear

"Women rule the roost there, but they reign in a hell born of degraded morals and family breakdown."

Because, as we all know, men are paragons of virtue and everything women touch is tainted and doomed to moral decay.[/sarcasm]

STFU you misogynistic a$$hole.

6/22/2013 11:17:28 AM

The Crimson Ghost

You guys keep saying that but you never offer any evidence.

The rise of female breadwinners is a sign of economic factors & equality.

Is this "ladies' man" any relation to David Duke?

6/22/2013 11:24:37 AM

Liberal Christian

Patriarchy hasn't worked out so well in history since it's been the cause of wars and oppression. And feminists don't want matriarchy. They want equality.

6/22/2013 11:44:58 AM

werewolf

What is it that we have now, Selwyn? And why worry when patriarchy is inevitable, anyway?


6/22/2013 1:02:58 PM



It seems as though fundies believe that not only are both genders entitled to strict separate roles, but if one gender acts outside their "gender role", then the other gender is deemed uneeded.

6/22/2013 1:28:07 PM

gimel

40% being sole or primary breadwinners is disturbing, alright. BUT. How many of these are single mothers? How many of them have husbands that have been recently laid off? And, finally, what was the figure back in the good old days of 1850s (amongst the working class, obviously, proletariat, if you will)?

Lies, damn lies and statistics quoted without any context.

6/22/2013 2:00:15 PM

NoHopeLost

Do they realize that 40% is still less than half of families right? Is that just two close to equality for comfort?

6/22/2013 2:02:07 PM

farpadokly

There is a third option, beyond patriarchy and matriarchy, and that is equality.

6/22/2013 4:26:47 PM

Cloning Blues

Matriarchy would indeed be a terrible thing. Luckily nobody outside A Room of Our Own wants it. And the fact that it would be bad, doesn't make patriarchy better.

6/22/2013 4:39:29 PM

Hasan Prishtina

So what's a fundie pastor to do? 1) Tell deadbeat dads to live cleanly, act responsibly and care for their wives and children; or 2) Blame teh laydeez? I think we have our answer.

6/22/2013 5:07:59 PM

John

So when a man fails to support his family and a woman steps into the breach and picks up the slack, it's the woman's fault? That's kind of like saying when the shortstop misses a catch and the left fielder runs in for it, it's the left fielder's error.

6/22/2013 5:14:10 PM

Mech610

@UHM

"There has never been a successful matriarchy..."

Don't forget Dido of Carthage or Boudicca!

Those two alone invalidate this assholes claim.

6/22/2013 5:14:14 PM

Lacan

Finally, Selwyn Duke's presence in the 21st century provides a definitive proof that the time machine has indeed been invented.

6/22/2013 5:38:05 PM

Angua

If you want matriarchy, just go into the black community. Women rule the roost there, but they reign in a hell born of degraded morals and family breakdown.

Step 1: Pass harsh drug laws.

Step 2: Use harsh drug laws as an excuse to arrest black men. Even though blacks are no more likely to use drugs than whites, arrest blacks for drug use at a much higher rate than whites. Also be sure to give blacks harsher sentences than whites for committing the exact same crimes.

Step 3: Complain about how the black family is broken and matriarchal as black women are forced to become single mothers because their husbands and boyfriends are in jail.

Step 4: Arrest more black people.

Step 5: When asked why so many black men are in jail, claim that it's because there are so many black single mothers.

Step 6: Blame the existence of black single mothers on matriarchy.

Step 7: Insist that this disproves feminism, even though most feminists want an egalitarian society, not a matriarchal one.

6/22/2013 5:55:15 PM

Sasha

the perpetuation of civilization (replacement-level birth rates)

Civilizations are a hell of a lot more complicated than just having babies.

6/22/2013 6:37:17 PM

John_in_Oz

Your unfounded assertions remind me of why we needed to invent science.

6/22/2013 9:42:04 PM

SpukiKitty

Here's a chart concerning Matriarchy vs. Patriarchy and the explanations of the terms in general:

http://www.ladyoftheearth.com/lessons/matri-patri.txt

Methinks Matriarchy blows Patriarchy out of the water as far as "noble, humane & world-bettering is concerned". That said, I think we need to find new terms to cause less confusion. Equality is what we Feminists want, not female supremacy.

"Matriarchy" is about equality.

This is why I prefer the term "kyriarchy" over "patriarchy". Now, if I can find an alternative to "matriarchy", I'd be all set.

That said, Shiva's a lifeless corpse without Shakti & masculinity is brutish stupidity with femininity.

6/23/2013 6:44:53 AM

Noneofyourbusiness

"When women start doing what men have traditionally done, yours is a civilization of the setting sun."

Historical example, please.

6/23/2013 8:26:41 AM



> When women start doing what men have traditionally done, yours is a civilization of the setting sun.

No, that's a RISING sun. I admit, it's hard to tell because of how slow it is.

6/23/2013 9:22:44 AM

Ebon

An old man crying that the world isn't the way he wants it anymore.

6/23/2013 7:24:18 PM
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