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In response to:"The fact that women are so underrepresented in many STEM fields indicates that there must be some educational, societal, or institutional force pushing them away." Emphasis added

There is. It has a lot to do with women though. First with STEM, the hierarchy in the workforce always favors the smartest/most knowledgeable people. This means you can't flirt your way to the top or simply just "make it" eventually.

The work is somewhat quantifiable, so people can be tracked in how much work they do. You can't sit around and chat or take extra time off and fuck around. People will find out.

Many fields have horrible deadlines and any person not finishing their work on time can slow an entire project and become the weakest link. When you're holding up something that thousands of people are working on, relying on, etc and they're all waiting for you, not fun. Additionally you'll be pushed to do overtime, heavy overtime. When it comes to software development for example, in the last few months leading up to release, you'll be better off bringing extra clothes and a sleeping bag to work. This can apply to virtually all other fields in different ways for different reasons.

Women and men study differently. Women are great and memorizing but don't focus on understanding. This is why there's a relatively equal amount of girls/boys in STEM the first year, but then it significantly favors the boys as time passes. The problem is that women do great on tests, but don't bother to understand that knowledge, which is fairly important later on and everything you learn will be used in the future (as you move from first to 4th year). This is why girls have been doing better (or so it seems) ever since standardized tests.

There are no problems in STEM for women. There's nobody out there trying to hold them back. My university cracked down hard on this shit, even had security cameras installed to ensure there was no harassment or sexism going on. And you know what changed? Nothing.

The key is attacking gender issues from both sides, rather than the BS of encouraging women to enter and just ignoring all problems men have.

What exactly is there to attack? There's 50% more women in college than men. Women have infiltrated every major out there outside of STEM. Do you know how HUGE STEM is? Let me tell you how huge it is. Go look up any non STEM focused University out there (MIT or Standord) and check the faculty for STEM or other majors. You'll find out quickly that the entire STEM curriculum has fewer faculty than a single major like business.



IHaveALargePenis, Reddit: MensRights 35 Comments [8/21/2013 3:22:18 AM]
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Your name suggests you don't understand the difference between "have" and "be".

8/21/2013 3:24:36 AM

aebars

I'm assuming you found this by way of ManBoobz, yes? Good. I love that site. Down the MRA/PUA dumbasses!

8/21/2013 3:44:38 AM

LDM

A truly well-endowed man a) doesn't need to advertise and b) doesn't blame women for his shortcomings.

8/21/2013 3:46:18 AM

Qazamir McSmarty Britches

Rants about women, names himself "IHaveALargePenis".

Yep, somebody has issues.

8/21/2013 4:23:18 AM

Ebon

Oh, DIAF.

8/21/2013 4:26:21 AM

The Anonymous

No one needs to read this bullshit, just look at the username and laugh.

Unfortunately for IHaveALargePenis, his large penis will know nothing or no one besides his hand.

8/21/2013 4:38:42 AM

SaneChick

MIT is supposed to be non-STEM focused? In what world? Does he know what the "T" in MIT stands for?

8/21/2013 4:39:41 AM

Boromir

YouAreALiar

8/21/2013 4:41:00 AM



Somebody wears their insecurity out on their sleeve.

8/21/2013 4:41:23 AM

Doubting Thomas

Usually if you have to convince people that you have a large penis, you don't.

8/21/2013 5:06:04 AM

Broton of Loch Ness

Sorry to be a pain, guys and gals, but is anyone going to bother commenting on the post instead of the guy's user name?

8/21/2013 5:23:07 AM

Swede

Poe, please? Btw, it's not the size; it's what you do with it that matters.

The reason there are fewer women in higher positions is that there are mostly men in even higher positions. When they look for new candidates, they look for people similar to themselves (unconsciously) and, strangely enough, find mostly men. You have to decisively LOOK for women in order to see them, at least in the beginning. That's why affirmative actions are necessary; not to appoint women who don't deserve it instead of men, but to appoint women who DO deserve it much more than the men that go appointed.

8/21/2013 5:37:15 AM

Swede

Part II

None of the working women I know sit around all day, and the working men I know take just as long breaks as the women do.

Taking care of kids has immediate deadlines. If you don't change the diaper right now, the shit might literally hit the fan.

Software development is not the only area with overtime, stupid. We have a shortage of nurses in Sweden (partly because of the high level of work and the low level of pay), so many of those who are working, work from 7am to 10pm with hardly any breaks, and they have human lives in their hands, i.e. people DIE if they don't "meet the deadline". People dying is not (yet) a problem, apparently, as responsible politicians refuse to even acknowledge that there is a crisis.

You seem to have flunked the understanding on your women's studies. Men and women aren't that different, really. There are larger differences within the groups, than between the groups. When hubby and me assemble furniture or bicycles or greenhouses, he thinks he knows how it's done, and race ahead. I study the instructions, make sure that all parts are present and none is left afterwards. In other words, I make sure that I UNDERSTAND the instructions before I start. He mostly have to disassemble at least three times, I very seldom disassemble. He acknowledges freely, that I am better at assembly than he is.

The problem isn't sexual harassment (or rather, that's a different problem), the problem is that women are not seen; women have to be four times better than men to be seen as almost as good.

And no, I don't seem able to write short and concise responses...

8/21/2013 5:38:16 AM

Jessie's Guitarist

Stop talking. We don't need to hear you.

Or want to.

8/21/2013 5:41:20 AM

Arctic Knight

STEM - Science TECHNOLOGY Engineering Math
MIT - Massachusetts Institute of TECHNOLOGY

If this guy would take out the big penis he has in his mouth, he might be able to see his computer screen long enough to see where he's oh so wrong on many accounts.

8/21/2013 6:20:28 AM



I'd like to see you say this shit about women just memorizing like parrots instead of understanding to a female physician who has your ass in her hands.

I'd also like to see you say the shit about how women don't work hard or put in overtime to a woman who's serving your food as her second or third job, and looking formward to going home and doing most, if not all of the work there, while her husband just "helps" around the house, if she's lucky.

8/21/2013 6:26:57 AM

Hasan Prishtina

Women are great and memorizing but don't focus on understanding.

Which is why, presumably, women are a very high proportion of humanities and social science faculties. No literary critic or philosopher, for example, would ever think of understanding or analyzing their subject matter.

I have a friend whose father was in the school of engineering at Stanford. Alone the school has more than twice as many faculty as the Business School.

8/21/2013 6:41:24 AM

Raised by Horses

If this isn't a parody or a poe, this guy's user name is a better indictment of his character than any counter-argument we can offer.

8/21/2013 6:41:33 AM



Good luck explaining why women with better qualifications and experience than men are rejected for positions that are occupied by mediocre men. Data from the different ministries and departments, not mine.

8/21/2013 6:59:54 AM

breakerslion

"First with STEM, the hierarchy in the workforce always favors the smartest/most knowledgeable people."

To which, I say,

"Pond scum rises to the top," and, "Those who can, do. Those who can't, manage."

8/21/2013 7:06:26 AM

Titania

Was going to call Poe until the MIT remark. Just a tpical inadequate male (as evidenced by the user name) angry at women.

8/21/2013 7:12:04 AM

Taiga

ALL academic fields past the high school level are going to require understanding of the subject matter, not just memorization. If women aren't capable of understanding anything, then they wouldn't be able to get ANY sort of college degree, write theses and dissertations, etc.

8/21/2013 7:25:29 AM

Papabear

You ARE a large penis.

8/21/2013 7:36:55 AM

freako104

Username says it all. Troll/poe

8/21/2013 8:40:18 AM

Anon-e-moose

'Oh, Cock!'

-James May, "Top Gear"

8/21/2013 10:09:34 AM
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