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I said born again Bible savvy Christians, not Catholics. (although they preserved a tremendous amount of knowledge) I guess you don't get why Jefferson said that Christianity, "divested of the rags of the clergy, is the friendliest to liberty, science and the freest expansion of the human mind." Unlike you he could tell the difference between the baby and the dirty bathwater. You choose not to apparently. That's why you keep talking about what the Catholics, totally ignorant of the NT, did or didn't do.

radorth, Christian Forums 9 Comments [2/21/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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David D.G.

Huh? The Catholics, \"totally ignorant of the [New Testament]\"?

I'll happily agree with the observations of many faults of catholicism, but to say that the Catholics did not know about Jesus, Mary, the Apostles, and so on seems a bit of a stretch to credulity.

~David D.G.

2/21/2006 4:15:22 PM


oh, yap yap yap. I'm so sick of this Catholics aren't real christians crap. Really. Really. Sick of it.

2/21/2006 5:30:45 PM


yeah, seeing is how they compiled, edited, voted in the verses and otherwise were responsible for the very existence of the bible...those darn catholics are just clueless about the book!

he should change his name from radorth to Moe Ron.

2/21/2006 6:40:34 PM


Doesn't the bible tell these people to get along?

2/21/2006 9:51:10 PM


Stole my point gregfl.

2/21/2006 10:38:34 PM

Jeremy PC

Radorth is a very arrogant and unsavoury poster. I don't know why Gladiatrix invests so much effort in exposing and tearing apart his many unsupported claims.

2/21/2006 11:12:42 PM


Well, Jefferson also said this:

\"The truth is, that the greatest enemies of the doctrine of Jesus are those, calling themselves the expositors of them, who have perverted them to the structure of a system of fancy absolutely incomprehensible, and without any foundation in his genuine words. And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter... But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.\"

Poor Jefferson has been spinning in his grave for many, many years.

2/24/2006 3:34:26 AM

Quantum Mechanic

More like "recently made-up bullshit idiots" in the universe in which you actually exist.

9/2/2013 2:50:30 PM

Felix Wilde

If you want to be accurate:
"The Christian religion, when divested of the rags in which they have enveloped it, and brought to the original purity and simplicity of it's benevolent institutor, is a religion of all others most friendly to liberty, science, and the freest expansion of the human mind."

Those semantics are a bitch, huh?

Want to know what else he said?

"Our civil rights have no dependence upon our religious opinions more than our opinions in physics or geometry."

"It is time enough, for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its officers to interfere [in the propagation of religious teachings] when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order."

"Is uniformity attainable? Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity."

"I am for freedom of religion, and against all maneuvers to bring about a legal ascendency of one sect over another."

"In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own."

"Religion is a subject on which I have ever been most scrupulously reserved. I have considered it as a matter between every man and his Maker, in which no other, and far less the public, had a right to intermeddle."

Jefferson undoubtedly knew more about Christianity than thou, radorth.

9/2/2013 10:43:11 PM

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