The arguments for faggotry as defined by behavioral 'choice'.
1) Prison: The rates of buggery, consensual and non go up dramatically behind bars. Even with the option of getting legally married and 'conjugating'; this has not affected those facts.
2) China: With astronomical female abortions due to the 2 child only law(most families want boys), faggotry has been on the rise. China will make San Francisco look like Marin County in 25 years.
3) Greece: When society(the codes, mores and norms) of ancient Greece accepted faggotry as another lifestyle on par with any other, homosexuality increased. Some even say it had a hand in the death of the Grecian Empire.
The government needs to support same-sex marriage in order to provide an incentive for family building since the number one raw material of any society are human resources and labor replenishment. America needs to get above its 2.02 rate of replenishment in order to stay competitive with China, India and the muslim fanatics, keeping our GDP head and shoulders above theirs.
You are already seeing what happens in European countries like France and Germany when they don't consider this a priority. Sperm is either swilled or disdained. Kids are uncouth and disruptive. An atheistic selfish society will not last. Homosexuality is just one more nail in that coffin.
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Wow, what an articulate bunch of meaningless, prejudiced bullshit. Way to top the "fucker" list again, wyatt. May you be wrongfully accused and sent to a pound-me-in-the-ass prison. Remember, on your first day there, kick somebody's ass, or be somebody's bitch.
Hmmmmm....so, according to 'Wyatt_Spunker', France and Germany "swill" and "distain" sperm? Should they be worshipping it instead? Yes, I can see it now. "Worship at the Church of the Holy Spermatozoa".
1) Sex in prison actually has little to do with actual pleasure, and a lot to do with power, and control. The only way to get out from being someone's bitch, is to rape someone else.
2) This is actually a statistical anomoly brought on by the fact that there are considerably more men in China than women. Statistically, men are more likely to be gay than women, so if there are more men in the country, the number of proportionate gay men in the population will obviously rise a fair bit.
3) This is just too stupid to comment on.
And why does the United States need MORE people? Its hard enough to find jobs for the ones we already have. Having gay couples who aren't reproducing will hopefully get the population back under control.
Does this guy even make sense?
Thought 1) "The government needs to support same-sex marriage in order to provide an incentive for family building since the number one raw material of any society are human resources and labor replenishment."
Thought 2) "An atheistic selfish society will not last. Homosexuality is just one more nail in that coffin."
So, he supports same sex marriage, but sees it as a nail in the coffin of this country?
So, Wyatt, that guy turn you down again? It's not fair, just because he doesn't want to live in the closet.
Yeah, the juvenile crime rate in Germany is SOOOO much higher than it in the USA or in fast breeding countries like Columbia.
Isn't China's GDP rising at it's fastest rate since the 40's DESPITE a national population depeltion policy (one that Wyatt is apparently aware of)?
Isn't a GDP primarily decided by natual resource management and technology level. You can have a rising population and a falling GDP if the National Average Standard of Living falls and isn't the NASL what mostly determines if a country is 1st world, developing or 3rd world? A country with one trillionaire king and a billion dirt farmers would have a pretty high GNP but it'll still be a 3rd world nation.
Wyatt you ignoramus!
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1) As already stated isn't about homosexuality the majority of the time, but power and control. Didn't you ever watch the show OZ on HBO? :P
2) Firstly China has a one child per family policy. Secondly, due to cultural beliefs, boys are preferred (especially in farming areas). Female fetuses are either aborted or brought to term and abandoned or given up for adoption. That's why the male to female ratio is so disproportionate.
3) *sighs* I can only hear this argument so many times before I just want to pull my hair out and scream. There was homosexuality and pedastry in Greece and Rome, yes. However, to say that alone contributed to their downfall (if at all) is pretty damn stupid. Pick up a history book some time.
"You are already seeing what happens in European countries like France and Germany when they don't consider this a priority. Sperm is either swilled or disdained. Kids are uncouth and disruptive."
Wyatt, have you visited a public school lately here in America???
David D.G.: Alexander was Greek. Greece was not a united country at the time; it was composed of different city-states, all of which viewed themselves as completely independent. By conquering them, Alexander effectively "united" them in a way, and spread Hellenic culture to the East.
You can always tell a projectionist by the almost loving way he describes gay sex. Sweet, sweaty, naughty.... um, unGodly, demonic gay sex.
I know this is quite beyond the point, but Marin County is just across the Golden Gate bridge north of San Francisco. I was born and raised there and I am proud to say that the people there are very liberal and open-minded, much like SF. I went to preschool there with kids who had two mommies or two daddies, and this was widely accepted. So basically San Francisco already looks like Marin County...
Sperm is swillled? Isn't swill a cheap meal, oh, I won't go there, or the garbage on Free Conservatives?
There was never a Grecian empire. There were Greek city-states that fought the Persians and each other constantly, and there was the Hellenistic empire of Alexander, which died when he did. Also, gay pedophilia was a small part of Greek culture, only hypothesized to have happened between children and their mentors, only in some cases. It was in no way endemic. You know, not in the way the medieval Europe (Christendom) was, or the officers of the British Empire.
number one raw material of any society are human resources and labor replenishment.
Have you checked your nation's unemployment statistics within the last few decades? I'm no economist, but I'm pretty sure that a massively overabundant resource has little per-unit value.
I will need a citation on that "sperm is swilled or disdained" in France and Germany. And a valid reason why I should care.
Millions of sperms are shooted out in each ejaculation, one in about 1000 ejaculations actually get to impregnate an egg cell.
Why do you care if it's 1 in 1000 or 1 in 6000? To me the Earth seems overpopulated as it is.
Even ignoring resource constraints, gdp PER HEAD will not grow faster just because people increase in number (it's actually slightly lower, see Solow-Swan model). Introduce resource constraints, and fast breeding nations go third world quickly.
And yes, repressive same sex environments like prison, army, churches, or victorian college lead to higher incidence of same-sex relationships.
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