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There was no "Greek and Roman science." Neither the Greeks nor the Romans ever developed the notion of "natural laws" which could account for phenomena in nature. There was Greek and Roman engineering and technology, but never science.

[Later in the same post: never heard of Pythagoras?]

... heliocentrism was not a scientific model devised by the Greeks.

Wizard of Oz, Apologetics.org 26 Comments [2/27/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Jeremy

OMFG what a dumbass.

You know, the Greeks were well on their way to figuring out evolution, and you can bet that Aristotle would have figured out a way to make it compatible with the Greeks' polytheistic beliefs. Amazing how long we've been going backwards...

2/27/2006 6:47:57 PM

David D.G.

...Thus proving that s + i + a = BS, where

s = stupidity,
i = ignorance,
a = arrogance,

and

BS = Belief that the Speaker has somehow won an argument with utter nonsense, simply because he doesn't have a frickin' clue about anything.


~David D.G.

2/27/2006 7:10:13 PM

ssdexecutor

<<<
<<< ...Thus proving that s + i + a = BS, where

s = stupidity,
i = ignorance,
a = arrogance,

and

BS = Belief that the Speaker has somehow won an argument with utter nonsense, simply because he doesn't have a frickin' clue about anything. >>>
>>>

i = ignorance AND the square root of -1.

This makes the equation even more profound. Bet those ignorant Greeks and Romans never would've figured something like that out.

2/27/2006 8:26:55 PM

CBBB

Stupid. Although he's more or less right about the Romans, not a civilization that put a premium on science. But while the Greeks may not have approached science in the better, modern way they were still amongst the first to try and find natural explanations for natural phenomenon. The Greeks were the ones who figured out that the world was round.

2/27/2006 9:22:49 PM

TDR

dude, you're a moron.

2/27/2006 9:25:53 PM

Dan

This post is all the more arresting for the fact that the guy is *not* a moron, nor is he ignorant.

If it had been (almost) anyone else making those remarks, I would not have bothered to submit it here - but I would have taken the trouble to correct them.

2/27/2006 11:10:35 PM

Julian

The had actually... Then the Christians burnt the library of Alexandria because the bible said knowledge was the work of the devil... *sigh*

(too lazy to find references)

2/28/2006 12:13:36 AM

CousinTedicus

That, my good friends, was the sound of all the great Greek and Roman thinkers turning over in their graves.

2/28/2006 12:57:21 AM

Jade

....

*dies laughing*

2/28/2006 4:29:56 AM

Mr. Turquoise

\"There was no \"Greek and Roman science.\" Neither the Greeks nor the Romans ever developed the notion of \"natural laws\" which could account for phenomena in nature. There was Greek and Roman engineering and technology, but never science.\"

How do you know!? Were you there!?

(sorry, I couldn't resist)

Mr. Turquoise

2/28/2006 9:45:15 AM

Tig

---HOW CAN U DOUBT THE ALL POWERFULL OZ?!?!?! He's omniscient, don't cha know. Just uhh, don't look behind the curtain... Thats where he hides all his egyptian proofs.

2/28/2006 8:21:34 PM

Kimball Khan

The Library was actually thrice burnt. First, on accident by Julius Ceaser in 47 BCE, when fire spread from ships he was burning in the port. Secondly, in 391 CE, by fanatical christian rioters. And finally, in 641 CE, by a caliph under siege in city, attempting to use fire created by burning the works there to heat water for the cities public baths. In this act alone, the Christians are responsible for setting back scientific progress 200 years. And this doesn't take into account the Dark Ages. As someone pointed out, the greeks had figured out that the earth was round, now, why is it then, that in the time of Columbus, 2000 years later, people thought it was flat? I'll give you a hint: The Bible. I mean, organized religion sucks for many reasons, but, more than war, more than brainwashing the populous, I hate the concept of organized religion, because collectively it has set us back a millenia. I blame the Christians exclusivly for us not having flying cars and interstellar space travel. We would be so much better off without religion.
To quote the 13th apostle: \"I think it's better to have ideas. You can change an idea. Changing a belief is trickier.\"

2/28/2006 9:21:19 PM

Seomah

Well, you know, you can have engineering and technology withouth science, right?

It's not like science is needed to develop computers like the one you are looking at now. Technology is in the bible, not coming from science.

3/6/2006 11:10:55 AM



The stupidity is so disgusting. I don't know if I should laugh, cry, or throw up.

6/11/2008 1:06:20 AM

Dr. Gus

*facepalm* Oh Really?
Ever heard that philosophy is the science of all sciences?
What about Pythagoras, Archimedes and Thales(just to name a few)?

If you don't know, don't make things up and pretend them to be real.

6/11/2008 1:11:41 AM

Reverend Jeremiah

DEMOCRITUS BITCH!

10/28/2008 11:53:49 PM

Darwin

Science, as a method, was being used by early hominids who sat around figuring out through trial, observation, and error, the best ways to chip spearheads and affix them to sticks. The Greeks and Romans were latecomers.

10/29/2008 2:39:21 PM

GigaGuess

Well it sure as fuck wasn't a Christian concept!

10/29/2008 4:07:13 PM

Samyaza

"heliocentrism was not a scientific model devised by the Greeks."
Aristarchus of Samos disagrees.

12/10/2008 11:34:41 AM

Michael

The Greeks were quite advanced in the fields of science, engineering, architecture, medicines and mathematics.
That all came to a grinding halt when the enforced ignorance of christianity came into being.
If there were no christianity, we would have colonised the solar system and be speaking greek 300 years ago.

12/10/2008 11:53:07 AM

Freboy

The Greeks figured out the atom.

Dark Age Europeans believed in the four elements.

When did we have a strong church?

12/10/2008 12:34:24 PM

dg

@Kimball Khan: People in Columbus' time knew the Earth was round.

12/10/2008 11:56:38 PM

dg

@Kimball Khan: People in Columbus' time knew the Earth was round.

@Freboy: The four elements were a Greek concept.

12/10/2008 11:56:39 PM

Mr. Creazil

What in Dawkins' name does Pythagorean theorem have to do with heliocentrism?

12/11/2008 12:01:52 AM

a mind far far away

Aristotle wants a word with you. He wants to kick your ass all the way back to ancient Greece.

12/11/2008 12:23:12 AM
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