[Fundies are reacting to the news of a Satanist temple wanting to put up a monument to Satan next to a Ten Commandments monument at an Oklahoma state house.]
NOTHING in the U.S. Constitution would give ANY indication that the founding fathers wanted equal time for all religious in cases like this. The "joke" Snickers commercial.........."not going anywhere for a while".......where a bunch of religions were lined up to give the opening prayer in a sports locker room is an exaggeration and not intended to replicate the way it should be. If I'm not wrong, there were Fairness Doctrine fights throughout the Klinton years (some where probably overexaggerated) and we've lived under this threat for quite some time.
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NOTHING in the U.S. Constitution would give ANY indication that the founding fathers wanted equal time for all religious in cases like this.
@MK
NO religious monument should be put up on government property, surely.
Klinton? He's pretty far from any KKK connections, isn't he?
Sky Beast has ordered His people to be obdurate and intractable meat-heads pending the Whooshorama! At least, that's how I interpret this. Really, the only thing I understand about this is documentingtehcrazy's brief explanation. Batman's bit, nothing, apart from a sort of dim obduracy that's been translated into keyboard thumps.
I think Batman will be a splendid sight in a pair of binoculars, cape fluttering in the breeze as he soars aloft wearing his best spandex for the glorious occasion of the Whooshfest er...soon.
The "joke" Snickers commercial.........."not going anywhere for a while".......where a bunch of religions were lined up to give the opening prayer in a sports locker room is an exaggeration
What? Really? No, you're kidding us. Really? Damn, who would have thought, an exaggeration? And silly old me thought that was all serious like. Well I'll be damnned, an exaggeration! Sure fooled me.
NOTHING in the U.S. Constitution would give ANY indication that the founding fathers wanted equal time for all religious in cases like this.
The Constitution protects their rights as much as it protects yours.
NOTHING in the U.S. Constitution would give ANY indication that the founding fathers wanted equal time for all religious in cases like this.
Nothing except that pesky First Amendment you guys seem to keep skipping.
U.S. Constitution: Amendment 1
I remember I was taking this course on critical thinking and reading. In the text book, they would have little examples of issues and ways they could be solved. One of them was about putting up Ten Commandments monuments on government property. The solution was to also put up monuments of other religions and of atheist philosophies. I always thought it would be interesting to try that out the next time fundies wanted to put Ten Commandments monuments. I wanted to see if they still wanted to put them up after being told that other monuments to other religions and to secular philosophies would have to be, or could be, put up. I thought they would give up on their monument ideas, cuz they're not actually interested in learning about different philosophies and world views. They just want to shove their religion down other peoples throats, and they want special recognition from the government. I believe this little incident proves me right.
NOTHING in the U.S. Constitution would give ANY indication that the founding fathers wanted equal time for all religious in cases like this.
I absolutely agree! We shouldn't give any time to any religion in these circumstances. I'm sure the state government has something productive it could spend that money on.
I will link here to a comment I made about an alike quote.
@Thinking Allowed"[When] the [Virginia] bill for establishing religious freedom... was finally passed,... a singular proposition proved that its protection of opinion was meant to be universal. Where the preamble declares that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the word 'Jesus Christ,' so that it should read 'a departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion.' The insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend within the mantle of its protection the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo and infidel of every denomination ."Thomas Jefferson
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
The first Amendment. All religions have equal rights under the Constitution because the State will not support or take away from any of them.
@JeanP : The sad part is that someone with such noble ideas apparently had the world's strangest spelling. *Hindoo*? What is that, a kind of elephant?
(Yeah, I know, different spelling back then, but really...)
It's you Christians' fault for tearing down the wall of separation between church and state. Now that other religions want to be represented you're having a hard time trying to shut that Pandora's Box.
But it's like all these fundie Christians think that the Constitution says "All religions are equal, but Christianity is more equal than all others."
So we can either go back to prohibiting all religious displays on public property (my preference), or allow any and all religious displays.
NOTHING in the U.S. Constitution would give ANY indication that the founding fathers wanted equal time for all religious in cases like this
Maybe the founders wouldn't have wanted Satanic monuments but the Constitution they wrote says you can't deny free expression of ANY religion or establish any religion over any other.
If I'm not wrong, there were Fairness Doctrine fights throughout the Klinton years (some where probably overexaggerated) and we've lived under this threat for quite some time
Yeah, it's horrible to live under the threat of fairness.
If I'm not wrong, there were Fairness Doctrine fights throughout the Klinton years (some where probably overexaggerated) and we've lived under this threat for quite some time.
Well, you are wrong. Fractally wrong, in fact. The Fairness Doctrine was applicable only to electronic media broadcasts. Also, it was abolished by a Reagan appointed FCC long before Clinton was in office.
You spelled "Clinton" wrong too.
"NOTHING in the U.S. Constitution would give ANY indication that the founding fathers wanted equal time for all religious in cases like this"
Except for the FIRST FUCKING AMENDMENT!!!!
Also the founding fathers were satanists and intended that America be a Satanist country
It clearly says so in the constitution.
" is an exaggeration and not intended to replicate the way it should be."
You're right. The way it should be, the way it was meant to be, is that the government does not mix at all with religion. That protects people of all faiths or no faith at all.
I'd go for a copy of the Credo Imperialis myself. Maybe a statue of the God-Emperor sitting all Lincoln-like with some cherubs and whatnot.
Of course, it would probably take them a little while to distinguish between the God-Emperor and their version of Jesus.
I have read comics about Batman, I have seen movies about Batman, and you, sir, are no Batman!
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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