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Quote# 109979

Some have been hateful when stating their beliefs about homosexuality being sinful. But, it's not just these people who are accused of hate, anyone who opposes homosexuality can be accused of being hateful by an Unbelieving world. This film can't appeal to everyone and be a message from God. Hopefully, however, it will clearly communicate that opposing homosexuality, and subsequently gay "marriage", isn't about and has never been about hate.

You can't make a deal with the Devil. If you seek the LORD Jesus (the) Christ and are saved by Him from your Sin, then you're going to be crossways with the world. This is Truth. Whatever the Unbelievers label Christians isn't actually relevant. The thing that matters is that we seek the Kingdom of God and His Righteousness. The thing that matters is that we follow Jesus.

The message of the Gospel has remained the same since Jesus preached it in Israel. All are sinners who need God's mercy and power to be saved from Sin. We cannot be saved by the Works of the Law. We cannot be saved by trying to be a good person. We can only be saved from our Sin and inherit Eternal Life through finished work of the Son of God, the Eternal Word of God - Jesus (the) Christ. This is Truth for everyone, except those who have blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

At the heart of the homosexual agenda is the Devil pushing it into general acceptance. You cannot appease the Devil with the Truth. He hates the Truth and is doing everything he can to frustrate the Will and Word of God in the earth. He has and will continue to fail, of course, but a fool continues to do foolishness even when the foolishness has been exposed.

FoJC_Forever, Christian News Network 12 Comments [6/24/2015 3:12:13 AM]
Fundie Index: 7

Quote# 109978

JEW Terrorists Hide Behind SC Shooting to Burn Christian Church

Yes, the Khazar Mob is at it again, doing what they do best, terrorizing others in Occupied Palestine.

This time they torched the "Church of the Multiplication of the Loaves and Fish" in Galilee Thursday, timing this horrendous act at the same time the brutal South Carolina massacre was hitting the MSM. Not that they had any worry that this real news would be shown in Israel's American colony, not with Zionist talking heads puking out pro-Israel talking points endlessly on the Jew owned MSM.
Good luck finding this on 'ZNN' or FOX N***, they don't have time for actual news that might wake up the American sheeple and make them realize Israel is our most deadly enemy. They'd rather go with the latest on Beyonce or frame the sickness around the 'Brucie' Jenner BS as not only normal, but something for kids to try.

Goon Squad, Goon Squad 15 Comments [6/24/2015 3:12:02 AM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: KittyKaboom

Quote# 109948

Dr Welby (original family name Weiler) is the grandson of a jewish immigrant and has the temerity to tell the rest of us to allow ever greater numbers of immigrants to flood into our overcrowded countries. Perhaps he could open the gates of his clerical palace and let a few of them live with him? Who knows, the experience may enrich him!

A healthy Aryan society would not permit all this to continue but would in fact seek to reverse immigration (legal or illegal) to ensure that only Aryans lived on Aryan soil, the soil that their ancestors died defending which today's generation of traitors freely give away. The resources of the Royal Navy (which we all pay for, whether we wish to or not) should be used to prevent these invaders from breaking into Europe, not assisting them! A border force which welcomes the intruder instead of repelling him and making an example of him is not fit for purpose.

All this goes to show that xtianity is a sickness which has weakened the resolve and health of the Aryan peoples of Europe (and further afield). Only a strong warrior religion is needed in this dark age of the Kali Yuga to awaken our race to the peril and slow genocide that awaits them if they continue to allow this state of affairs to continue. A religion of the mythos of the blood! Within a period of 50-100 years our people will be a minority in our own lands. Minorities deprived of the sovereignity of their own lands (the Palestinian Arabs in the rogue state of Israel and the American Indians being cases in point) all because generations since 1939 have allowed this to happen.

Wotans Krieger, Aryan Myth and Metahistory 11 Comments [6/23/2015 3:04:44 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 109861

[Hyperlinks removed]

THE TOP 40
REASONS TO DOUBT THE OFFICIAL STORY OF SEPTEMBER 11th, 2001

… An outline in simple talking points …

We are continuing to compile the best documentation links for every single point on this page, and intend to post the updated version as soon as possible, and create teaching tools and more from the info. This is a significant and time-consuming process–if you have useful links, please send them to janice[at]911truth[dot]org. Thanks for your help!
If you use the search function with title key words, you will discover that 911Truth.org is home to articles backing virtually every point made below. Much of the basic research is available at the Complete 9/11 Timeline (hosted by cooperativeresearch.org), the 9/11 Reading Room (911readingroom.org), and the NY Attorney General Spitzer petition and complaint (Justicefor911.org). For physical evidence discussion, see Point 7.

THE DAY ITSELF – EVIDENCE OF COMPLICITY

1) AWOL Chain of Command
a. It is well documented that the officials topping the chain of command for response to a domestic attack – George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Myers, Montague Winfield, Ralph Eberhart – all found reason to do something else during the actual attacks, other than assuming their duties as decision-makers.
b. Who was actually in charge? Dick Cheney, Richard Clarke, Norman Mineta and the 9/11 Commission directly conflict in their accounts of top-level response to the unfolding events, such that several (or all) of them must be lying.

2) Air Defense Failures
a. The US air defense system failed to follow standard procedures for responding to diverted passenger flights.
b. Timelines: The various responsible agencies – NORAD, FAA, Pentagon, USAF, as well as the 9/11 Commission – gave radically different explanations for the failure (in some cases upheld for years), such that several officials must have lied; but none were held accountable.
c. Was there an air defense standdown?

3) Pentagon Strike
How was it possible the Pentagon was hit 1 hour and 20 minutes after the attacks began? Why was there no response from Andrews Air Force Base, just 10 miles away and home to Air National Guard units charged with defending the skies above the nation”s capital? How did Hani Hanjour, a man who failed as a Cessna pilot on his first flight in a Boeing, execute a difficult aerobatic maneuver to strike the Pentagon? Why did the attack strike the just-renovated side, which was largely empty and opposite from the high command?

4) Wargames
a. US military and other authorities planned or actually rehearsed defensive response to all elements of the 9/11 scenario during the year prior to the attack – including multiple hijackings, suicide crashbombings, and a strike on the Pentagon.
b. The multiple military wargames planned long in advance and held on the morning of September 11th included scenarios of a domestic air crisis, a plane crashing into a government building, and a large-scale emergency in New York. If this was only an incredible series of coincidences, why did the official investigations avoid the issue? There is evidence that the wargames created confusion as to whether the unfolding events were “real world or exercise.” Did wargames serve as the cover for air defense sabotage, and/or the execution of an “inside job”?

5) Flight 93
Did the Shanksville crash occur at 10:06 (according to a seismic report) or 10:03 (according to the 9/11 Commission)? Does the Commission wish to hide what happened in the last three minutes of the flight, and if so, why? Was Flight 93 shot down, as indicated by the scattering of debris over a trail of several miles?

THE DAY – POSSIBLE SMOKING GUNS

6) Did cell phones work at 30,000 feet in 2001? How many hijackings were attempted? How many flights were diverted?

7) Demolition Hypothesis
What caused the collapse of a third skyscraper, WTC 7, which was not hit by a plane? Were the Twin Towers and WTC 7 brought down by explosives? (See “The Case for Demolitions,” the websites wtc7.net and 911research.wtc7.net, and the influential article by physicist Steven Jones. See also items no. 16 and 24, below.)

FOREKNOWLEDGE & THE ALLEGED HIJACKERS

8) What did officials know? How did they know it?
a. Multiple allied foreign agencies informed the US government of a coming attack in detail, including the manner and likely targets of the attack, the name of the operation (the “Big Wedding”), and the names of certain men later identified as being among the perpetrators.
b. Various individuals came into possession of specific advance knowledge, and some of them tried to warn the US prior to September 11th.
c. Certain prominent persons received warnings not to fly on the week or on the day of September 11th.

9) Able Danger, Plus – Surveillance of Alleged Hijackers
a. The men identified as the 9/11 ringleaders were under surveillance for years beforehand, on the suspicion they were terrorists, by a variety of US and allied authorities – including the CIA, the US military”s “Able Danger” program, the German authorities, Israeli intelligence and others.
b.Two of the alleged ringleaders who were known to be under surveillance by the CIA also lived with an FBI asset in San Diego, but this is supposed to be yet another coincidence.

10) Obstruction of FBI Investigations prior to 9/11
A group of FBI officials in New York systematically suppressed field investigations of potential terrorists that might have uncovered the alleged hijackers – as the Moussaoui case once again showed. The stories of Sibel Edmonds, Robert Wright, Coleen Rowley and Harry Samit, the “Phoenix Memo,” David Schippers, the 199i orders restricting investigations, the Bush administration”s order to back off the Bin Ladin family, the reaction to the “Bojinka” plot, and John O”Neil do not, when considered in sum, indicate mere incompetence, but high-level corruption and protection of criminal networks, including the network of the alleged 9/11 conspirators. (Nearly all of these examples were omitted from or relegated to fleeting footnotes in /11 Commission Report.)

11) Insider Trading
a. Unknown speculators allegedly used foreknowledge of the Sept. 11th events to profiteer on many markets internationally – including but not limited to “put options” placed to short-sell the two airlines, WTC tenants, and WTC re-insurance companies in Chicago and London. See Billions in Pre-911 Insider Trading Profits Leaves a Hot Trail and Criminal Insider Trading leads directly to CIA.
b. Initial reports on these trades, such as Profiting from Disaster and Suspicious Trading, were suppressed and forgotten, and only years later did the 9/11 Commission and SEC provide a partial, but untenable explanation for only a small number of transactions (covering only the airline put options through the Chicago Board of Exchange).
c. In addition, suspicious monetary transactions worth hundreds of millions were conducted through offices at the Twin Towers during the actual attacks. The German firm, Convar, recovered financial data from hard drives recovered from Ground Zero although the Commission published this FBI briefing on trading in which agents expressed a lack of knowledge and doubt about the data recovery long after the data was transmitted to the FBI. Here is an update on Oh the places you go (when you follow the money).
d. See this interview with Bill Bergman who worked at the Chicago Federal Reserve for over 13 years as an economist and financial markets policy analyst. He was fired when he raised concerns about unusual currency transactions pre- 9-11.

12) Who were the perpetrators?
a. Much of the evidence establishing who did the crime is dubious and miraculous: bags full of incriminating material that happened to miss the flight or were left in a van; the “magic passport” of an alleged hijacker, found at Ground Zero; documents found at motels where the alleged perpetrators had stayed days and weeks before 9/11.
b. The identities of the alleged hijackers remain unresolved, there are contradictions in official accounts of their actions and travels, and there is evidence several of them had “doubles,” all of which is omitted from official investigations.
c. What happened to initial claims by the government that 50 people involved in the attacks had been identified, including the 19 alleged hijackers, with 10 still at large (suggesting that 20 had been apprehended)? http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-worldtrade-50suspects,0,1825231.story
d. How did they enter the US? Where did they get their VISAS?

THE 9/11 COVER-UP, 2001-2006

13) Who Is Osama Bin Ladin?
a. Who judges which of the many conflicting and dubious statements and videos attributed to Osama Bin Ladin are genuine, and which are fake? The most important Osama Bin Ladin video (Nov. 2001), in which he supposedly confesses to masterminding 9/11, appears to be a fake. In any event, the State Department”s translation of it is fraudulent.
b. Did Osama Bin Ladin visit Dubai and meet a CIA agent in July 2001 (Le Figaro)? Was he receiving dialysis in a Pakistani military hospital on the night of September 10, 2001 (CBS)?
c. Whether by Bush or Clinton: Why is Osama always allowed to escape?
d. The terror network associated with Osama, known as the “base” (al-Qaeda), originated in the CIA-sponsored 1980s anti-Soviet jihad in Afghanistan. When did this network stop serving as an asset to covert operations by US intelligence and allied agencies? What were its operatives doing in Kosovo, Bosnia and Chechnya in the years prior to 9/11?

14) All the Signs of a Systematic 9/11 Cover-up
a. 911Truth.Org broke the story that Airplane black boxes were found at Ground Zero, according to two first responders and an unnamed NTSB official, but they were “disappeared” and their existence is denied in /11 Commission Report.
b. US officials consistently suppressed and destroyed evidence (like the tapes recorded by air traffic controllers who handled the New York flights). NEADS recordings damaged during transcription.
c. Whistleblowers (like Sibel Edmonds and Anthony Shaffer) were intimidated, gagged and sanctioned, sending a clear signal to others who might be thinking about speaking out.
d. Officials who “failed” (like Myers and Eberhard, as well as Frasca, Maltbie and Bowman of the FBI) were given promotions.

15) Poisoning New York
The White House deliberately pressured the EPA into giving false public assurances that the toxic air at Ground Zero was safe to breathe. This knowingly contributed to an as-yet unknown number of health cases and fatalities, and demonstrates that the administration does consider the lives of American citizens to be expendable on behalf of certain interests.

16) Disposing of the Crime Scene
The rapid and illegal scrapping of the WTC ruins at Ground Zero disposed of almost all of the structural steel indispensable to any investigation of the collapse mechanics. (See also item no. 23, below.)

17) Anthrax
Mailings of weapons-grade anthrax – which caused a practical suspension of the 9/11 investigations – were traced back to US military stock. Soon after the attacks began in October 2001, the FBI approved the destruction of the original samples of the Ames strain, disposing of perhaps the most important evidence in identifying the source of the pathogens used in the mailings. Were the anthrax attacks timed to coincide with the Afghanistan invasion? Why were the letters sent only to media figures and to the leaders of the opposition in the Senate (who had just raised objections to the USA PATRIOT Act)? Calls were issued to investigate the investigators.

18) The Stonewall
a. Colin Powell promised a “white paper” from the State Department to establish the authorship of the attacks by al-Qaeda. This was never forthcoming, and was instead replaced by a paper from Tony Blair, which presented only circumstantial evidence, with very few points actually relating to September 11th.
b. Bush and Cheney pressured the (freshly-anthraxed) leadership of the Congressional opposition into delaying the 9/11 investigation for months. The administration fought against the creation of an independent investigation for more than a year.
c. The White House thereupon attempted to appoint Henry Kissinger as the chief investigator, and acted to underfund and obstruct the 9/11 Commission.

19) A Record of Official Lies
a. “No one could have imagined planes into buildings” – a transparent falsehood upheld repeatedly by Rice, Rumsfeld and Bush.
b. “Iraq was connected to 9/11? – The most “outrageous conspiracy theory” of all, with the most disastrous impact.
c. CIA misleads FBI about hijackers in US.

20) Pakistani Connection – Congressional Connection
a. The Pakistani intelligence agency ISI, creator of the Taliban and close ally to both the CIA and “al-Qaeda,” allegedly wired $100,000 to Mohamed Atta just prior to September 11th, reportedly through the ISI asset Omar Saeed Sheikh (later arrested for the killing of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl, who was investigating ISI connections to “al-Qaeda.”)
b. This was ignored by the congressional 9/11 investigation, although the senator and congressman who ran the probe (Bob Graham and Porter Goss) were meeting with the ISI chief, Mahmud Ahmed, on Capitol Hill on the morning of September 11th.
c. About 25 percent of the report of the Congressional Joint Inquiry was redacted, including long passages regarding how the attack (or the network allegedly behind it) was financed. Graham later said foreign allies were involved in financing the alleged terror network, but that this would only come out in 30 years.

21) 9/11 Commission:
a. The September 11th families who fought for and gained an independent investigation (the 9/11 Commission) posed 400-plus questions, which the 9/11 Commission adopted as its roadmap. The vast majority of these questions were completely ignored in the Commission hearings and the final report.
b. The membership and staff of the 9/11 Commission displayed awesome conflicts of interest. The families called for the resignation of Executive Director Philip Zelikow, a Bush administration member and close associate of “star witness” Condoleezza Rice, and were snubbed. Commission member Max Cleland resigned, condemning the entire exercise as a “scam” and “whitewash.”
c./11 Commission Report is notable mainly for its contradictions, obvious omissions, distortions and outright falsehoods – ignoring anything incompatible with the official story, banishing the issues to footnotes, and even dismissing the still-unresolved question of who financed 9/11 as being “of little practical significance.”

22) Crown Witnesses Held at Undisclosed Locations
The alleged masterminds of 9/11, Khalid Sheikh Mohamed (KSM) and Ramzi Binalshibh, are reported to have been captured in 2002 and 2003, although one Pakistani newspaper said KSM was killed in an attempted capture. They have been held at undisclosed locations and their supposed testimonies, as provided in transcript form by the government, form much of the basis for /11 Commission Report (although the Commission”s request to see them in person was denied). After holding them for years, why doesn”t the government produce these men and put them to trial?

23) Spitzer Redux
a. Eliot Spitzer, attorney general of New York State, snubbed pleas by New York citizens to open 9/11 as a criminal case (Justicefor911.org).
b. Spitzer also refused to allow his employee, former 9/11 Commission staff member Dietrich Snell, to testify to the Congress about his (Snell”s) role in keeping “Able Danger” entirely out of /11 Commission Report.

24) NIST Omissions
After the destruction of the WTC structural steel, the official Twin Towers collapse investigation was left with almost no forensic evidence, and thus could only provide dubious computer models of ultimately unprovable hypotheses. It failed to even test for the possibility of explosives. (Why not clear this up?)

25) Radio Silence
The 9/11 Commission and NIST both allowed the continuing cover-up of how Motorola’s faulty radios, purchased by the Giuliani administration, caused firefighter deaths at the WTC – once again showing the expendability, even of the first responders.

26) The Legal Catch-22
a. Hush Money – Accepting victims” compensation barred September 11th families from pursuing discovery through litigation.
b. Judge Hellerstein – Those who refused compensation to pursue litigation and discovery had their cases consolidated under the same judge (and as a rule dismissed).

27) Saudi Connections
a. The 9/11 investigations made light of the “Bin Ladin Airlift” during the no-fly period, and ignored the long-standing Bush family business ties to the Bin Ladin family fortune. (A company in which both families held interests, the Carlyle Group, was holding its annual meeting on September 11th, with George Bush Sr., James Baker, and two brothers of Osama Bin Ladin in attendance.)
b. The issue of Ptech.

28) Media Blackout of Prominent Doubters
The official story has been questioned and many of the above points were raised by members of the US Congress, retired high-ranking officers of the US military, the three leading third-party candidates for President in the 2004 election, a member of the 9/11 Commission who resigned in protest, a former high-ranking adviser to the George W. Bush administration, former ministers to the German, British and Canadian governments, the commander-in-chief of the Russian air force, 100 luminaries who signed the “9/11 Truth Statement,” and the presidents of Iran and Venezuela. Not all of these people agree fully with each other, but all would normally be considered newsworthy. Why has the corporate-owned US mass media remained silent about these statements, granting due coverage only to the comments of actor Charlie Sheen?

GEOPOLITICS, TIMING AND POSSIBLE MOTIVES

29) “The Great Game”
The Afghanistan invasion was ready for Bush”s go-ahead on September 9, 2001, with US and UK force deployments to the region already in place or underway. This followed the failure earlier that year of backdoor diplomacy with the Taliban (including payments of $125 million in US government aid to Afghanistan), in an attempt to secure a unity government for that country as a prerequisite to a Central Asian pipeline deal.

30) The Need for a “New Pearl Harbor”
Principals in US foreign policy under the current Bush administration (including Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle and others) have been instrumental in developing long-running plans for worldwide military hegemony, including an invasion of the Middle East, dating back to the Ford, Reagan and Bush Sr. administrations. They reiterated these plans in the late 1990s as members of the “Project for a New American Century,” and stated a clear intent to invade Iraq for the purpose of “regime change.” After 9/11, they lost no time in their attempt to tie Iraq to the attacks.

31) Perpetual “War on Terror”
9/11 is supposed to provide carte-blanche for an open-ended, global and perpetual “War on Terror,” against any enemy, foreign or domestic, that the executive branch chooses to designate, and regardless of whether evidence exists to actually connect these enemies to 9/11.

32) Attacking the Constitution
a. The USA PATRIOT Act was written before 9/11, Homeland Security and the “Shadow Government” were developed long before 9/11, and plans for rounding up dissidents as a means for suppressing civil disturbance have been in the works for decades.
b. 9/11 was used as the pretext to create a new, extra-constitutional executive authority to declare anyone an “enemy combatant” (including American citizens), to detain persons indefinitely without habeas corpus, and to “render” such persons to secret prisons where torture is practiced.

33) Legal Trillions
9/11 triggers a predictable shift of public spending to war, and boosts public and private spending in the “new” New Economy of “Homeland Security,” biometrics, universal surveillance, prisons, civil defense, secured enclaves, security,
etc.

34) Plundered Trillions?
On September 10, 2001, Donald Rumsfeld announced a “war on waste” after an internal audit found that the Pentagon was “missing” 2.3 trillion dollars in unaccounted assets. On September 11th, this was as good as forgotten.

35) Did 9/11 prevent a stock market crash?
Did anyone benefit from the destruction of the Securities and Exchange Commission offices at WTC 7, and the resultant crippling of hundreds of fraud investigations?

36) Resource Wars
a. What was discussed in the Energy Task Force meetings under Dick Cheney in 2001? Why is the documentation of these meetings still being suppressed?
b. Is Peak Oil a motive for 9/11 as inside job?

37) The “Little Game”
Why was the WTC privatized just before its destruction?

HISTORY

38) “Al-CIA-da?”
The longstanding relationship between US intelligence networks and radical Islamists, including the network surrounding Osama Bin Ladin. (See also point 13d.)

39) Historical Precedents for “Synthetic Terror”
a. In the past many states, including the US government, have sponsored attacks on their own people, fabricated the “cause for war,” created (and armed) their own enemies of convenience, and sacrificed their own citizens for “reasons of state.”
b.Was 9/11 an update of the Pentagon-approved “Project Northwoods” plan for conducting self-inflicted, false-flag terror attacks in the United States, and blaming them on a foreign enemy?

40) Secret Government
a. The record of criminality and sponsorship of coups around the world by the covert networks based within the US intelligence complex.
b. Specifically also: The evidence of crime by Bush administration principals and their associates, from October Surprise to Iran-Contra and the S&L plunder to PNAC, Enron/Halliburton and beyond.

REASON NUMBER 41:
RELATED MOVEMENTS AND PARALLEL ISSUES

Ground Zero aftermath movements:
– Justice for the air-poisoning cover-up (wtceo.org)
– “Radio Silence” (radiosilencefdny.com)
– Skyscraper Safety (www.skyscrapersafety.org).

Election fraud and black box voting, 2000 to 2004. (BlackBoxVoting.org)

Lies to justify the invasion of Iraq. (afterdowningstreet.org)

Use of depleted uranium and its multi-generational consequences on human health and the environment.

Longstanding development of contingency plans for civil disturbance and military rule in the USA (See, “The War at Home”)

Oklahoma City Truth movement. (Offline, but not forgotten – May 9, 2008!)

Whether you call it “Globalization” or “The New World Order” – An unsustainable system of permanent growth ultimately requires warfare, fraud, and mass manipulation.

GOING FORWARD …

“But an inside job would involve thousands of people! How could they keep a secret?” Counter-arguments, red herrings, speculations and false information.

Selected essays, books and websites that make the case for 9/11 as inside job. (See Resources)

Demanding a real investigation of the September crimes – Not just a patriotic duty, but a matter of survival.




911 Truth, 911truth 5 Comments [6/21/2015 5:06:53 PM]
Fundie Index: 3

Quote# 109785

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One of the things peculiar to Western Society (as opposed to any others) is the teaching that racism is totally wrong. Yet, those who seek to enforce anti-discrimination laws (which include race, racial and national or ethnic origins, and religion) will immediately jump to the support of modern Jewry, as a special religious-racial group, even if modern Jewry is made up of people from many different races. In New Zealand people are actively discouraged from even questioning events of history that might undermine the enforcers’ determination of history in regard to “The Jews”. Their determination is very important to them, and, as such, is in itself racist. What is it that they are trying so hard to either protect or to promote? Might it be their false presentation that the Jews are Israel? Might not this be a mechanism by which the prince of this world seeks to eliminate the right message of the Bible? This is the master deception of Satan.

Would it not be Satan who is saying that the Potter does not make one vessel unto honor and another to dishonor, as Scripture says? Anti-racism is saying that every person of every race is the same in the eyes of man, and in Satan’s religious doctrines, this is the same in the eyes of YEHOVAH God. The issue is multi-culturism -- and this does not feature favorably through the Bible pages. Mixture of cultures is a source of conflict, both in religion and custom. Israel was separated from the other races, for a purpose. For Israel the Biblical message is still, "come ye out from amongst them, and be ye separate, saith the LORD" in the New Testament. The people being addressed in Corinthians had the “fathers” and were "baptized unto Moses" (1 Corinthians 4:1). They were Israelites!

Jeremiah 10:2, 3: "This saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen,…"

The "way" is derek which Strong's gives as "course of life, or mode of action." We should not be teaching indigenous culture in our schools.

Not one person can read the Old Testament without agreeing that YEHOVAH God is shown to be totally racist. YEHOVAH discriminated on the grounds of race and YEHOVAH God clearly treated races differently -- and even made differences between the tribes of Israel themselves.

The Children of Israel had a mission to eliminate the Canaanite races right down to women, children and even their animals. There are those whom YEHOVAH God says He will eliminate when the Messiah returns "at the brightness of his coming." The matter has to be faced; YEHOVAH God was totally racist in the Old Testament and we understand that He is unchanging for all time.

Arnold Kennedy, Hope of Israel Ministries 13 Comments [6/19/2015 2:51:47 AM]
Fundie Index: 11
Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 109776

Billy Graham's daughter, Anne Graham Lotz, has claimed that the reason God allows terrorists to attack the United States and tornadoes to destroy cities is because Americans don't pay God any attention until they are truly desperate and are seeking His mercy.

The 67-year-old Lotz, who has previously claimed that the rapture will happen during her lifetime and God's judgement will soon come upon America, recently spoke with Jan Markell on the "Understanding End Times" radio program where she compared Americans' apathy toward the Gospel to the times of Noah, when God unleashed his judgement by flooding the Earth.

"In the days of Noah, they were eating, drinking, getting married. There is nothing wrong with any of that. All of those are normal everyday activities. But in Noah's day they did it all apart from God," Lotz said. "There was no acknowledgment of God. God was irrelevant to them. … I think that is where we are today."

Lotz argued that Americans today are too focused on insignificant things such as Hollywood, sports and ridiculous controversies, rather than giving God the attention He deserves.

"I look at some of the things that we get preoccupied with, whether it's an entertainer or whose baby they are having, or on the red carpet, or footballs being deflated by a quarterback. We zero in on those things and talk about them and we have no idea that we are on the edge of the whole world collapsing around us," Lotz explained. "That is the strongest similarity of the days of Noah and our day.

"Today, we are consumed by superficial things. Some of the areas of the world they are not. If you go to Syria or Iraq, those Christians over there, I will guarantee you, are very focused," Lotz continued. "In America, we are just neglecting God and ignoring Him. I just saw a piece about the rise of atheism, people walking away from the church. In fact, the Christian church is declining, according to Pew Research."

Lotz added that God sends wake-up calls to let people know that His judgement is coming and that they need to turn to Him, repent and pray that He will send His blessings instead of harsh judgement.

"That is why God sends us wake-up calls. That's why he allows the terrorists to strike or a tornado to rip through our city, because for whatever reason, we don't seem to give Him our attention until we are desperate," Lotz contended. "If we don't give Him our attention, then He is going to allow things to happen to make us more and more desperate until we do cry out."

Although God sends wake-up calls, Lotz said that there eventually comes a "point of no return" where God will no longer listen to pleas for His mercy and will simply unleash His judgement if people still aren't repenting even with the warning signs.

"Romans 1 gives that progression of judgement; its methodical and slow in a sense. At any point you could turn back to God. But I do believe there comes a tipping point. There comes a point of no return," she said. "My concern is that I just don't want it to get passed that tipping point. I don't want to get to the point when we cry out it's as though His ears are deaf and His patience has run out. I think we are getting very close to that."

She further warned that there are three reasons why America could pass the tipping point.

One is if the U.S. Supreme Court rules in favor of making gay marriage a constitutional right in a decision expected to be made this month. The second is America's "abandoning of Israel." Third, is the rise of abortion.

"Those three reasons alone would demand that God judge America. We can point our fingers at them," Lotz argued. "Judgement starts at the house of God and we need to get our house in order. We need ourselves to get right with God and repent of our sins."

The two most important things that God's people should be doing to prevent His judgement from reaching America is praying and sharing the Gospel, because those people who are led to Christ during these times will be "double saved," Lotz proclaimed.

"We share the Gospel because people that we lead to Christ right now, it's almost like we save them twice," she said. "We save them from an earthly hell that is coming during the tribulation period, which I think we are very close to, and we save them from eternal hell, which is when you step into eternity. The second death is the worst of all when you are separated from God

Anne Graham Lotz, Christian Post 24 Comments [6/19/2015 2:42:10 AM]
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It states CLEARLY in the Torah that [homosexuality] is an abomination. There is no disputing Torah.

We call Israel a Jewish state yet we publicly trangress Torah. Then we complain when our enemies send bombs our ways. We can not have it both ways. If you think for one second that there is no connection between the increased rocket activity, US supreme court declaring that Jerusalem is not part of Israel, desecreation of King David's tomb you are sadly mistaken. How bad does it have to get for us to wake up? We can not have this vile behavior in the streets of Israel. It puts all of us in mortal danger. [...] It takes courage, love of fellow jews to tell the truth. Torah is truth.

This is the holy land not San Francisco.

Lori, The Netherlands, Lazer Beams 6 Comments [6/18/2015 6:34:12 PM]
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Quote# 109766

Greece and Rome fell for a number of reasons, but a primary one was increasing hedonism and homosexuality.

What I am saying is that Israel's acceptance of this debauchery without any real pushback by rabbis and traditionalists marks what can be sadly but definitely regarded as the beginning of the end, or: the Decline and Fall of Modern Israel.

Pinchas Baram in Boston, Lazer Beams 18 Comments [6/18/2015 6:33:52 PM]
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Quote# 109765

Political correctness and/or financial intersts are preventing many of our elected representatives and spiritual leaders from opening their mouths. With ISIS on our borders and a renewal of missile fire in the South and mounting tensions in the north, and with the notorious Three Weeks right around the corner, someone must protest the Israeli-government sanctioned public debauchery in our holy homeland. [...] This past Friday, thousands took the streets in a public display of debauchery, fully sanctioned by the [Tel Aviv] Municipality and the Government.

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More of us must make our voices heard. I fear what is likely to happen if no one protests the continued public debauchery. Let us be on record, once more, that this is a much greater danger than Iranian nukes. In fact, such public debauchery, on a spiritual level, fuels the engines of our enemies, for as our sages say in the "Ethics of the Fathers", every transgression creates an accusing angel. Mass public transgressions, sanctioned by the government, create doomsday spiritual forces. We must be courageous enough to stand up and protest.

Rabbi Lazer Brody, Lazer Beams 8 Comments [6/18/2015 6:33:39 PM]
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Quote# 109742

Gaza should be erased, THEY ARE ALL REPTILIANS!!!

Don't go crying saying that a few million "innocent people" will die when all of Gaza's civilians are reptilians!!!

It is the Palestinians in the west bank that have some humans, but even that number is small! only around 10% of the population of the west bank are humans! that is still better compared to Gaza which is around 0!!!

No wonder the people in Gaza elected Hamas, and put up with all their abuse towards the civilians! because being reptilians, that treatment of them is not abuse when their plan is to frame Israel and make them look like they are harming "innocent civilians".

With Hamas firing from civilian area's and using civilians as "human" shields, stashing all their stuff in people's homes, hospitals and mosques, and firing from those places too! all in an effort to get civilians inevitably killed when Israel fires back in self defense, so the civilian reptilians getting Israel framed to make the world hate Israel is worth dying!

Since the reptilians are technically demon possessed aliens! the reptilians dying does not kill the demonic spirits inside them!

How could Israel have ever belonged to the Palestinians when from the very beginning most Palestinians were reptilians that are not from this earth?

The 10% of west bank Palestinians who are human is still like 170 000 people estimatingly, or a bit less, that is sure not enough people to make a country, I say those people would do fine being Israeli citizens, that would be fine since there are already about under 1.4 million Muslim Israeli's!

Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 12 Comments [6/18/2015 2:56:31 AM]
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