A woman wants to abort a rape child? She should have thought of that before she walked down that dark alley without a male prescence, not to mention she should have thought before putting on revealing attire.
[Yes. It should (be legal). Otherwise you're screwing over the women who don't deserve their fate.]
Are you calling them victims now? Should've stayed in the house where it's safe.
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Personally, I think it's God's fault. To have a dark alley, you need a night, and we all know whose brilliant creation that was.
ETA: UberAsshole adds this lovely gem:
Just to add, the rare instances where a woman was impregnated via rape may have been prevented had the woman insist he used protection. That, or she should carry protection with her to guarantee the rape be safer.
Yeah. That works.
Excuse me, Mr. Rapist. Would you mind holding on a second so I can slip this condom over the penis with which you're currently ripping my insides to shreds? Thanks so much!
You presume to know the circumstances of this woman's rape, but I'll bet dollars to bent nails you don't know the first thing about it.
What if she didn't walk down a dark alley, would abortion be OK then? What if her male protector was the one who raped her. OK then? What if she was at home, wearing cover-alls and a suit of armor, playing tiddlywinks with her father and got raped? OK then? No one was ever raped in a house, huh? No one was ever raped by her father, huh?
Of course they are the victims. I mean, if the man had hold his pants, this would have not happened. Women go unscorted ALL THE TIME, because if men are unable to control their urges, well, they´re not the superior leading men they´re supposed to be. No law in the world has stated that rape is not a crime. And don´t asume that all rape victims are at night and in revelling clothes. There are a lot who were raped in war and it was midday.
Yeah, except that rape isn't always stranger rape. Stats show a rapist is far more likely to be a woman's so, friend, relative etc. So, she isn't safe in the house at all.
Solution: neuter unberbeliever. Obviously the best course of action. :)
Should've stayed in the house where it's safe.
Sure, rapes never happen in homes.
It gets even worse. He says later:
"Just to add, the rare instances where a woman was impregnated via rape may have been prevented had the woman insist he used protection. That, or she should carry protection with her to guarantee the rape be safer."
Boggles the mind...
Should've stayed in the house where it's safe
Where it's safe ?!! Over half of all rapes occur in the victim's home or the home of a friend or relative.
She should have thought of that before she walked down that dark alley without a male prescence
In 2/3 of all rapes, the rape was by someone the victim knew. She'd be safer in the dark alley without the male. The majority of rapes are planned. The pervert grabbing a stranger walking past and raping her is rare.
she should have thought before putting on revealing attire.
There's no correlation between rape and what the victim was wearing. There are far more rapes per capita in Canada, where they're well-wrapped for much of the year, compared to Greece, where they're more likely to be in shorts and tee shirts.
In case you haven't read the thread lately, Uber is trying to settle down the thread. There has been a horrificly racist post since yesterday which someone has probably submitted already. But now he's trying to tell everyone he was just trying to "educate" everyone about life lessons, or some shit like that.
BTW, how many people signed up just to bitch at him, like five? Lol
I'm going to go ahead and submit one of his posts, but someone probably beat me to it.
If a woman wants to abort a pregnancy that is the result of rape, she has a perfect right to do so. She is a victim, and she does not deserve to suffer any more. That's all that matters, not how she was dressed or where she was when it happened. And why should a woman have to stay in the house all the time, or have to have a chaperone wherever she goes? They're people too, you know, not bits of property.
To quote (Once again) from Sam Kieth's The Maxx:
"This has to do with the fact that you're twisted as a corkscrew, and looking for someone...Women, feminism, Paglia, me...To blame it on!
You broke into my locked house and kidnapped me! This has nothing to do with the clothes I wear!"
You know, he could have possibly salvaged some remnant of his reputation on that board by suggesting the woman carry a handgun instead of a condom. That would probably require him to give a damn about women, though.
Troll or not, there are people who think like this. They msut live in houses with the best security systems on the market, and surrounded by crocodile-filled moats, for them to never think that, "OH shite, someone could break in and rape me!"
Myth 1.
Women are raped by strangers.
While violent random attacks make the news and grab the headlines, a vast majority of rapes occur either in a relationship, or with someone the woman trusts - usually an asshat with some higher agenda and no sense of reality like Uberbeliever.
Myth 2.
Rapes all happen in dark alleys or parks.
Nope most rapes occur in bed in the woman home, or at the place of the friend she trusted, or at a hotel, or at a party, but in a place where sex normally occurs.
Myth 3. The stupidest and worst one.
It was the woman's fault with what she was wearing!
WTF!
So the rapist in the dark alley let 50 women wearing skirts go past and the first sight of bare flesh he sees he pounces. Is this what you're trying to say here? Does that happen? NOPE! That only happens in fundy land where they lust and covet the women who were just being their friends. Mercifully they've stopped claiming their lust was obviously a spell cast by the woman and having her executed for being a witch.
Small mercy.
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I'll ignore the fact you think all single independant women deserve to be raped - GO LIVE IN SAUDI ARABIA ASSHOLE!
Julian, exactly. What was that quote from Paul? "If thy hand offend thee, cut it off?" Same thing, only lower down.
Uber, there is nothing even remotely uber about you, unless you mean your ubermysinogy, your uberstupidity, your uberisanity.. etc.
Please, go and fucking die in a fire.
And hey, look! You're such an ignorant fuckwit that an anti-abortionist disagrees with you. Now that's something.
Wow, I always thought people who said rape victims deserved it were a thing of the past. Funny how the male presence outside the house thing is line-item straight out of the Sharia code. Fundies are fundies, no matter where or which god.
Sure--so she can be raped by her husband instead!
Or by the guy who breaks into her house at night.
C'mere, asshole, and let me show you what it's like to be raped--up the ass like you like it.
Your ideas are about as forward thinking as the taliban. Why not just force women to wear the burka as well?
You are one SICK FUCK!
The only thing that brings me solice is the (misguided?)hope that, one day, this kind of thinking will die away and humans will actually become something worthwhile.
For now, I suggest that someone finds his address and educate him about these fallacies of rape first hand.
Oh, and remember to use contraception.
@SaneChick
The asshat must have forgotten that thye even consider condoms sinful.
Just to add, the rare instances where a woman was impregnated via rape may have been prevented had the woman insist he used protection. That, or she should carry protection with her to guarantee the rape be safer.
Yeah. That works.
Excuse me, Mr. Rapist. Would you mind holding on a second so I can slip this condom over the penis with which you're currently ripping my insides to shreds? Thanks so much!
Wanna know what's really sad? I'm in high school, y'see. One day, one of my classes got into a political debate. I mentioned that one of the reasons I disapprove of Gee Dubya is because I'm pro-choice. This one girl exploded at me, calling me babykiller, saying that 'the babies are just as alive as you or me - they can think and feel and eat and breath! How would you like me to stab YOU and flush you down the toilet?'
I asked her, what if a woman was raped?
Her reply was more or less a copy-and-paste of this screwhead's post.
This same girl also dropped valuable nuggets of wisdom such as "I think Christianity should be enforced in school, after all, the country was BUILT on it!" and "I would be offended if I heard someone making a Jewish or Muslim prayer in public".
No, no, no, this can't be real. These are sarcastic remarks we pro-choicers use in informal debates!
if we ever meet sumwhere, and i try to kill u, im sorry, its not my fault that you couldnt stay at home and waste ur fucking life away
Uberbeliever, you're so out of touch and so many centuries outdated, in your thought processes, you would have made an excellent inquisitor during the 1600's.
Just think! You could hang and burn everyone! Ever notice your god hates the same people you do?
You call yourself an uberbeliever, I read you and call you satanic and a threat to women. Because if you believe that about rape, no woman should go near you, in a dark place. The disease that believes a woman asks for it, is the disease that gives it to them and actually believes, "NO!" means yes.
You people who are saying women need to be locked up are primitive and pumped with testosterone. I doubt you'll ever become anything in life. You trying to be dominant and masculine is really, really sickening. I guess its people like you that make some girls lesbians.
But yeah, terrible post. :D Move to iran. Here in the USA, there's a little something blocking your way called "freedom".
"Should've stayed in the house where it's safe."
Most rapes happen in the victem's own home, and by someone they know and trust, I bet someone just like Uberbeliever.
Christians are gay, they are the offspring of god and jesus, god raped jesus, jesus then died after is anus imploded on him from the excess amount of rapes he recieved. After jesus died, sever thousand years later he reincarnated into Osama Bin Laden, and became a devout muslim, only to realise christianity is the biggest load of bullocks and "blasphemy" he took out his anger on the mental retards in the world trade centre and the pentagon, and then went into hiding as he was scared the christians would try to convert him.
Yes, because women are inferior with no right to live on their own, or take a shortcut, or dress how they want, or really: just live an independant life- no wait! This isn't 1200 CE (AD)!
But to reiterate a previous post in a different manner. Using your logic: if you ever die of gunshot wounds, not a crime! You should have dodged the bullet!
Oh yes...the classic, "she shouldn't have been wearing revealing attire" excuse for rape. So what you're saying is that men are so incapable of controlling their sexual urges that they cannot see the smallest patch of bare female skin without attempting to commit rape? Don't you realize that this makes men seem *much* worse than women?
i have no tolerance for anyone who adheres to any dogma, whether they be xtian or muslim, but reading the posts on this page makes me think that the islam extremists are serving a useful purpose in the divine plan (yes i believe in god, but i don't cling to the words that were given to me by an imperial roman church) ... if they can kill off dumb shits like this, more power to them! these xtian fundamentalists are indeed the greatest threat our country has ever faced!
Wow, reminds me of my mom when she told me I deserved being raped because I was ALONE with the guy in the house(even though I was wearing footies..FOOTIES).
That is right up there with the belief that men can't control themselves when they smell a woman's pheramones and should have his way with her.
Shit like this makes me long for lesbianism.
You UberIgnoramus - almost 90% of women are raped in the own effing homes!
So, according to YOUR logic, all women should be safer walking in those dark alleys.
1. Dosen't always happen in a dark alley. It could happen at, work, home, the park, the beach, a birthday party, ANYWHERE!
2. Their not always wearing revealing clothes.
3. Yes. RAPE CAN HAPPEN IN THE HOME!
4. Die.
are you serious? are you serious? are you serious?
not all rapes happen in dark alleys. and it's the woman's fault for wearing revealing attire? it's not the man's fault for being a sick bastard and unable to control himself?
everyone should have the right to wear attire as revealing as they want, without having to worry about being raped. i hope that at some point, you are a woman and get raped. it's a terrible thing to wish on anyone, but that's the only way i can see that you see the light. you will realize how helpless and violated and disgusted and scared a rape victim feels. many rape victims are raped in their own homes. many of them are little girls raped when they were spending the night at their uncle's house.
it doesn't matter what someone is doing: rape is not okay. never, never, never. i can't believe you. i feel like vomiting.
Absolutely...actually why don't all women who own a skirt shorter than 10 inches open their doors for 2 hours every day (obviously with signs and directions to each house) so they can really get what they deserve.
Seriously you sicken me, next time you're walking down a light alley in non-revealing attire without your arbitrary male escort and have some guy attack you, then maybe you'll understand. Unfortunately I would not wish that on anyone.
You're a fucking loser.Rape is illegal.Abortion is legal.What are you going to do about it?Nothing,because you're nothing but ignorant trash.1 out of 5 men are sexual abuse victims.I hope you get to be one of them.
A house wife was raped in my city during broad day light in a supermarket parking lot by a man with HIV.I live in a very nice city.She was wearing jeans and a sweater.That could have been your wife/daughter.
i have to say you win the prize for the worst thing a person could say on this page, and theres a whole lotta bad stuff on here. words cant even describe how much i and the rest of the world hate you for what you just said, and i hope one day youre raped violently and get pregnant and then apply those words to yourself you hypocritical hatemonger. please sterylize yourself. if another person like yourself appears on this earth it just gives us another reason to destroy us all. you are so far down the evolutionary ladder that youre right, you didnt come from monkeys. you came from the turd they laid. i hope you have a painful remainder to your life and that you contract a disease that leads you to death so painfully and slowly that you stop believing in god. please get help before you hurt someone
So women should always remain indoors, always have male bodyguards when they go outside, and should never come up with their own fashion styles regarding clothing.... even when they're confined indoors?
If you're a female I'll die laughing...
Please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please Die...
To modify a much earlier comment by Doctor Whom:
"Why can't reincarnation be real, just so that Gooberbeliever (good one, btw!) can be reincarnated as a woman?"
In Saudi Arabia!
it is nice to see you so dedicate and defending your god,
because your bible says he was a rapist as well because he fucked the virgin maria and put a baby inside her.
must be a good one he even didn't leave a trace.
common,when are you gone realise women are equal to man,and gays are that as well.
you speak off the dangers off Muslim extremists but you're as twisted as they are.
step a side form your faith and find the real world outside.
U should be raped, then ur family should be raped, and then the rapest should rape the unwanted children born of that rape. You should be beaten and locked in a basement where all you get is food, water, and rape. The babies should be raised to be crazy and then take over the task of daily raping u.
I believe its a only a paltry 9% of rapes are perpetrated by a stranger.
And something to the effect of only 10% or so happen outside of the victim's home or an acquaintance's home. Something like 70% happen in the victim's home. Seems real safe, huh?
So...you do the math, dear.
you are a fuck face and lucky you have a penis (as small as it may be) because if that wasn't the case you would be the one being violently raped walking in that "dark alley" late at night in "revealing attire". dumbass, people get raped in broad daylight wearing fucking snowsuits. you're an ignorent bible banging pice of cunt, and not to mention the fucking anti-christ.
Yes because all rape attacks happen down dark alleys. Let us lock all women up so that we shall prevent them from getting raped because they're so stupid that they bring it upon themselves.
In case you're too blind to notice, I was being sarcastic.
Are you calling them victims now? Should've stayed in the house where it's safe.
1. Yes, because they are victims.
2. No, most cases of rape occur in the home.
i hope uberbeliever is staying at home where it's safe, wearing plain and wholesome ahmish/putian attire so as not to be revealing... and then i hope s/he is a victim of a home invasion where they brutalize, torture, and rape him/her.
and then i hope they set the house on fire right after they kiss him/her goodnight.
you people are sick!! you talk about "burning people at the stake" and that a kind hearted woman who (becouse she) doesnt believe in the same fairytail/loughable ideals as you deserves to be raped? the cold hard truth is that the averidge person who doesnt believe in god is mutch more human than the averidge christian who believes in heaven and hell,
if something good happens in this world its a myricle if something bad happens its gods will.
lol
im going to leave this chat room and never come back or even think about peopl like you ever again,you fanatics on the other hand will think about peolple like me when ever you have a so called sinfull thought go through your narrow minds you will direct your self hate towards people like me becouse you are so jelous that i have no fear in my everyday life to live HAPPY and with free will,when on the other hand your poor dissalutioned brains are so full of lies and hate that your afraid of yourself,s lol see you in hell
well i was raped, in a way that dark alleys don't cover, i woke up in the morning with a GUY AND HE WAS DOING IT TO ME, I was asleep is this still rape?
You are out of your fucking mind. All of you yahoo's are. I can't believe that all of you could pervert being a Christian so much. You and all of the others posting in this really make me question my faith.
Thanks for ruining the bible for other people and turning people away from god.
but there was a male presence. Unfortunately he turned out to be a vicious rapist.
Women have the right to expect that in a civilised society that there aren't "no-go" areas - we all have that right.
But bear in mind MEN can be raped - and not just queers. So be afraid Uberbeliever, be very afraid. The world is a dark place.....
Yeah, because all women who are raped wear revealing clothing and walk down dark alleys by themselves... *rolls eyes* And even if some of them do, that's not a crime is it? No. Rape is... and the rapist chose to do that. He didn't have to - but he chose to do that disgusting thing. No matter what, she does not deserve to be raped.
She should have stayed in her house, eh? What if somebody broke into her house while she was sleeping and raped her there? What do you have to say about that? Did she deserve that too? And if she becomes pregnant, why should she be forced to have that child?
And yes, she very well is the victim! What the hell is wrong with you? She shouldn't be forced to have a baby that was not even conceived with her consent.
You hypocrits worship fictional bullshit. How can you dedicate your life to something that never has been, and never will be, proven. You deny science because you can't handle it. Grow up and learn to stop failing. It's called 'logic'.
that's the same forum in which someone claims removing an ectopic pregnancy should be illegal. they don't relent even after being explained that the woman WILL 100% sure die because the tube is has the width of a human hair, and when the embryo grows the tube will rupture and she will bleed internally to death. and no, there's no way to re-implant it.
By the way, If you are going to be using conjunctions it should be doesn't not "who don't" but I'm not here to teach proper English. Who says that women have to do something to encourage rape, or men...did you know that it's possible for men to get raped too? Oh my goodness!
I feel very sorry for you that you can't show the compassion that your Jesus would show...it isn't very easy to get ppl to follow that way is it?
The way that I see it is that ppl are going to see how you behave and how you think and realize EFF christianity I don't wanna be anything like that!
Sorry for being blunt but some ppl need to hear it that way.
in that same way of thoughts, if I kick you in the balls, its your fault for having balls right?
man i just hope he is not married.. poor wife
Yes, so instead of locking up the brutal animals who call themselves men, we should lock up innocent women who are minding their own business instead. Get a life, you psycho.
****SARCASM********
So for the convient store clerk who gets robbed and shot.. he should just stay home too right, and that cop that gets stabbed by a criminal, and the next store neighboor doing his lawn while a car swerves off of the rode and hits him.. So we all just have to stay in our houses, we can't eat, cuz leaving to get food might kill us, and going in the lawn to garden might too ya know.. So we just don't eat.. so we die..THE STREETS AREN'T SAFE! PEOPLE STAY OFF OF THEM! Especially women, cuz we're not as good as men.. DUH.. Cuz guys totally can't get raped or killed..
WHAT THE FUCK?
She should have thought of that before she walked down that dark alley without a male prescence,
Very, very, few rape cases happen in a dark alley.
not to mention she should have thought before putting on revealing attire.
Most rape victims are dressed approprately.
Should've stayed in the house where it's safe.
A large percent of rape cases happen in the home, or another safe place, and usally by someone they know.
Sounds like this guy condones rape, but then - so does his god.
Deuteronomy 21:10-14
Judges 5:30
Exodus 21:7-11
And lets not forget Deuteronomy 22:28-29:
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
I only rape women who wear crucifix's. its such a horny item of clothing they deserve it. it's not my fault if I get sexually arouse dby it...When they start asking God to help them too...ohh momma, but hey like you said hombre
"she should have thought before putting on revealing attire"
That woman did have a male presence in the alley, just turned out to be someone who wanted to rape her.
And sure, she can live in her house for the rest of her life, no problems then. No one gets raped in their houses.
if i meet you .. and i rape you with a 20 inch dildo. its your fault for not staying in your house wher its safe.
the rape victim was obviously at fault for being outside ... why wasnt she inside ironing and cooking and cleaning? being a good woman. because of her that innocent rapist could have been sent to jail because she said NO. how very rude of her.
ps joshi... the comment about the knife. brilliant :-)
A woman doesnt have to be a skank to be raped, just female! Who said she was walking down a dark alley?? It can happen in your own home by someone you thought you could trust, you could be abducted from a shopping centre car park even.
Sick asshole. Sounds like some of the fundy whaleshit spouted by radical Muslims. Not to mention it displays an APPALLING ignorance of reality; most women are NOT raped by stangers but by someone they know, and a lot are raped in their home by knife/gun-wielding intruders. So it matters not if the crime occurs inside or outside the home.
Mr. Uberbeliever needs to get his head out of his shithole and away from his Bible, pastor & 'church'.
I feel pity for those who can't create even 1 thought of their own. This is a prime example of ignorance and why religions segregate not only minorities, but anybody that's different in any way.
Raped? Go to hell.
Female? Go to hell.
Want an abortion? Go to hell.
YOU go to hell, Uberasshole.
This lowlife peice of scum has finally got my goat!
The only suggestion I have to teach this bottomfeeder a lesson would be have them experience rape themselves and see then if their opinion changed.
I have nothing but hate in my heart for this "person". they are probably some sort of devient themselves and use God and religion as a guise for their perversions.
ROT IN HELL YOU LOSER!
I really, REALLY hope you get raped while walking down a dark alley. And I also hope that, for an unforeseen miracle you manage, against all the known biology, to get pregnant.
The way you speak, you act as if women are prancing down alleyways in their knickers singing "Rape me" in loud soprano.
What a cliché. Seriously, I don't know the statistics on it, but how many alley rapes are there compared to rapes by people that the person knew and trusted?
are you stupid? seriously if a woman gets raped she was FORCED and if you knew anything about anything most woman know there rapist, and if she was wearing a mini skirt or a winter parka is doesnt matter, she still would have been raped its not her fault, and why should women always have a man around her? this is the 21st century get with it honestly.
Move to fucking Saudi Arabia, fuckwad.
If I were that woman, I'd be insulted enough to want to rape your ass with a rusty chainsaw.
This is coming from a person who obviously cannot control their actions or take responsibility.
Better watch out for my fist aiming at your nose. Oh yeah, it's your fault for being in it's path and I get off scott free though I didn't have to punch you (I really would).
Those men don't Have to go after the woman, but I suppose they cannot help it can they? Fucking animals.
Decisions man.
Did I ever mention a similar situation has happened to me before? Do not think we are all weak, because he ended up with a broken nose, sharply kicked groin, broken elbow, and torn ACL ligament in his knee making it nearly impossible to get away (He didn't). He was about 6foot5 with a big build, and I am 5feet with a petite build. I bet it shattered his glass ego (Like the rest of you scumbags have) to get his ass kicked by someone the size of prepubescent child.
I would love to see Uberbeliever in prison.
Uber: No! Please! Don't!
Big Gay Guy: Shoulda stayed at home, bitch.
How did the rapist see that the woman was wearing revealing attire, if she was walking down a dark alley?
What is revealing attire, btw? Is there really someone out there who doesn't know what a female body looks like?
Why are there disproportionately few rapes in nudist camps? Talk about revealing...
Rapists rarely do it out of wanting to fuck, most people have this little thing called self control, it's out of the desire to feel power over another being which self control does far less to hinder. It's got nothing to do with what she wears, more with what a sick fuck he is.
see that? that's a pit of fire. it has a diameter of 3 metres, giving it a circumference of about 9.42 metres. in it are coals, the carbon burning up with oxygen to provide energy, according to C + O2 => CO2. if I were to push you in it, you would fall into the pit with an acceleration of 9.8 metres per second per second, according to the gravitational pull of our planet. if you were to be caught in the flames, your cells would almost instantly die and catch on fire, since glucose and other things life is made of are mainly combustible. this rapid necrosis would of course send impulses to your dying brain, causing a most excruciating pain and fear.
knowing this, please die in a f*ing fire! >:L
A young teenager wants to abort a rape child? She should have thought of that before she lay there sleeping in her bed, in her long nightie and the cover pulled up to her chin, in the same house as her father and his brother were staying.
Are you calling her a victim now? Should've stayed in another house where it's safe.
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