Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality. That's why most of the medical (not socio-spiritual) blame for today's rise in homosexuality must fall upon the rise in soy formula and other soy products. (Most babies are bottle-fed during some part of their infancy, and one-fourth of them are getting soy milk!) Homosexuals often argue that their homosexuality is inborn because "I can't remember a time when I wasn't homosexual." No, homosexuality is always deviant. But now many of them can truthfully say that they can't remember a time when excess estrogen wasn't influencing them.
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Right, and those cultures that have consumed soy as a staple food item for thousands of years are overrun with homosexuals.
Soy contains phytoestrogens, weak exogenous estrogens that actually outcomplete stronger endogenous estrogens for the same receptors lowering the overall estrogen working within an individual body. Hardly "feminizing", get your fucking facts straight.
Actually, homosexuality is caused more by the enviroment in the womb. Studies suggest that the more boys a woman has, the more likely one will be homosexual due to changes in the mother's body chemistry.
So, are you hinting that Oscar Wilde is homosexual due to a plant whose existence was totally unknown to him?, or Edward the IV, for that matter?, do you have any sources?. And make up your mind, if it´s soy what causes homosexuality IT´S NOT DEVIANT. And it´s not a sin. It has to be chosen.
"Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality."
If it's so common, why have none of us ever heard of such a thing?
Soy, and many other foods, contain phyto-estrogens. These compounds have been shown to reduce the rates of some diseases including heart disease. They do not effect penis size or sexual orientation.
"That's why most of the medical (not socio-spiritual) blame for today's rise in homosexuality must fall upon the rise in soy formula and other soy products."
No, push that non-fact back up your ass and stop using your butt as a information source.
"(Most babies are bottle-fed during some part of their infancy, and one-fourth of them are getting soy milk!)"
No, world-wide most babies never see a drop of formula.
"Homosexuals often argue that their homosexuality is inborn because 'I can't remember a time when I wasn't homosexual.'"
And, all the best evidence shows that homosexuality is, largely, inate.
"No, homosexuality is always deviant."
It is deviant only in that it is not the sexual orientation of the majority, nothing sinister, just a minority.
"But now many of them can truthfully say that they can't remember a time when excess estrogen wasn't influencing them."
Can you honestly say you can remember a time when lack of intelligence and knowledge wasn't influencing your opinions?
Jim Rutz is a putz.
David, as usual no one cares about lesbians. :)
I care about lesbians.
That's why most of the medical (not socio-spiritual) blame for today's rise in homosexuality must fall upon the rise in soy formula and other soy products.
That's odd, I've never heard any of my doctors, or my health psychology professor (and any of her TAs), or any one I know with any medical experience mention this "soy causes gays" theory. Thus, I call bullshit.
Also, what's socio-spiritual? Is it like a retarded version of the biopsychosocial model of health?
Fucking SOY now? Well, at least it means fundies will die out of deficiency disorders if we ever colonise another planet - soy is one of the only sources of essential minerals like calcium, magnesium and zinc that can realistically be provided by a hydroponic/aquaculture-only environment.
I'm honestly surprised that Jim Rutz doesn't attack breast milk on the basis that anything produced by a woman must be inherently feminizing and bad for baby boys.
Interestingly enough, soy products have been used by celibate Buddhist monks for centuries as libido-reducing agents. Historically, Japanese wives also increased the amount of soy in their husbands' diets when they wanted to limit their libidos.
But Bobdole, the parents who would want to abort their homosexual child would mostly be religious fundamentalists, or at least have strong religious ties. To most Christians, abortion is as bad (if not worse) than homosexuality, and I believe that the same view is held by most Muslims (though I admit that I have far less experience with them).
Further, the most hardcore fundamentalists would probably disregard even the most irrefutable evidence for genetic homosexuality, and call it "liberal bullshit" or part of the "gay agenda." So they'd have the kids anyway, because while their kid may or may not turn out to be gay, an abortion is (by their views) definitely immoral.
You'd be asking people to choose between two so-called "evils." Personally, I think that in the end, parents would choose to forego the abortion, and this would lead to a greater acceptance of the homosexual community. So hey; go for it.
I'm going to go to the bookies and put a large sum of money on what the next innocent thing fundies will be scared of will be.
My guess is chap stick. After all, you apply it just like lipstick, and it makes your lips look not horrible. It's clearly part of the gay agenda!
Of course, it all makes sense! You are what you eat. I was allergic to Soy when I was a baby, so they switched me to goat milk. That must be why I love to read the Dunwich horror, have a hairy back and enjoy hitting things with my head! Praise Science! Bahhhhhh. Bahhhh.
It's amazing what a small bit of information can do. I'm relaying this second hand and through about 2 years of general apathy, but:
Soy proteins tend to be more benefical to a woman than a man. Something about digestion.
I believe whey(I'm sure I butchered the spelling of that) is supposed to be a bit more male friendly.
Of course this came from a hippy vegan redhead. I don't think the damage my memmory has made could make it any worse than it was when I got it.
I hate to break out the old botched circumcision story again, but one boy was given a sex change operation immediately after birth and made into a girl. As part of the operation, he was castrated, and later deliberately dosed with female hormones. He still ended up being attracted to women. Eventually, when he learned about the sex change, he got changed back and later married a woman.
If you can't change the sexual orientation of a guy by castrating him, raising him as a girl and dosing him with estrogen, the soy-turns-you-gay theory doesn't sound too plausible.
I care about lesbians.
We care about you too, Justin.
He goes on to say that soy sauce is fine, because it's fermented and that changes its molecular structure.
Oh, of course. Fermentation solves everything! That must be why we received the secrets of the process from the hand of the Might God Thor himself. He wanted us to protect our manliness!
He also says that soy products (not soy sauce, remember!) will reduce penis size, and you don't even get a saving throw!
Source: Pandagon .
"So, if it ever does turn out that (as the homos like to claim) "homosexuality is genetic in origin", the stage is all set for couples to abort babies that are homosexual, thereby avoiding bringing another pervert into the world."
The stage is all set for fundies to do a 180 on abortion to kill the little sodomite cells, only to realise that accepting a genetic origin for homosexuality invalidates the reason to do the abortion in the first place.
And the fundies won't be able to keep their heads from exploding.
Soy tastes like shit (to me) but I highly doubt it makes you gay. And if it did, so what? I don't know, being focused on eating meat like sausages and beef seems to have more homo-erotic overtones than that. That's if you're a homophobe.
12/14/2006 1:24:46 AM
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Soy tastes like shit (to me) but I highly doubt it makes you gay.
Maybe that is part of the plot. Getting one acclamated to the taste of shit. AS I read the article though, it appears as though your manginas are in danger of 'uterus manginus gigantimus(enlargement/hypertrophy)'. There is the testicular atrophy that may be a fair exchange, though. Otherwise, beware of the chocolate smoothies.
People are gay because of soy products' alleged feminizing effects.
OR
People are just gay.
Occam, your razor, if you please.
Now, soy does contain a certain amount of phytoestrogens, but certainly wouldn't have such a super-dramatic effect. If it did, all female vegetarians would be so top-heavy they'd fall over and vegan dudes would never procreate.
I used to be allergic to milk (I have since outgrown the allergy). I drank soy milk instead. That was over the course of ten years.
Even now, I dislike the taste of milk and continue to drink soy milk. I am nearly 15 years old.
I am straight.
Nice try.
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