How long will people ignore the obvious.... Terrorism is EXCLUSIVE to Islam!!
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Bombing abortion clinics, the IRA, the FLQ, Medellin Cartels, and the biggest terrorist of all... George Bush
Anyone go read the rest of the thread? I found this nugget. Emphasis added.
"I honestly wonder if the people responsible for these attacks were hoping to provoke a war between India and **Palestine**, and thereby further destabilize the world situation."
The victims of abortion clinic bombers would like to talk to you for a second...
(Also, how the fuck does this have only a 3.29 fundie rating?)
Um, Paul Hill was a Presbyterian minister who killed a physician and his bodyguard and was later executed by Florida.
From Wikipedia:
Hill was not apologetic for the killings, and in his last words he encouraged others who believe abortion is an illegitimate use of lethal force to "do what you have to do to stop it."
Sounds like the definition of terrorism to a T to me!
What? Oh, oh, I see what you did there. That's what we call a "lie". They are sometimes very powerful rhetoric devices which can be used to lead the people you're talking to into believing anything you say. But that only works if you're talking to people who are stupid and/or uninformed.
The rest of us know that your claim is false.
Because all those christian terrorists aren't really terrorists, they're actually doing the lard's work. Forget the fact that, other than a few theological differences, fundamentalist islam and christianity have the exact same values, morals, and beliefs.
According to the research, (from RAND-MIPT, if I remember correctly, found in Brynjar Lia and Katja Skjølberg's Causes of Terrorism: An Expanded and Updated Review of the Literature), religious terrorist (not exclusively Islamist, mind you) count for about 14% of all terror incidents between 1968 and 2004. See for yourself: http://rapporter.ffi.no/rapporter/2004/04307.pdf
Or read the US Department of State's Country Reports on Terrorism. You might learn something.
Abortion clinic bombers, Timothy McVeigh, the KKK, Army of God, pretty much any group that ever committed acts of terrorism in Northern Ireland, and the Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda. These were all Christian terrorists.
Here's more if you want to read about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism
Aside from all those terrorists who weren't Muslims, of course. Does the name "Theodore Kaczynski" ring any bells? Timothy McVeigh? The IRA? All the Christian fundies who blew up abortion clinics? The ALF?
But no, those weren't "real" terrorists... after all, they were white, right?
Retard.
I'll not reiterate what everyone else has said, but on the rest of the thread, I'll say this:
OH NOES THE RUPTURE IS COMING *grabs tinfoil hat*
KKK, Oklaoma city bombing, the sicari from 1st century BC,
abortion clinic bombings, the Tokyo underground assault, ecoterrorism...
"How long will people ignore the obvious.... Terrorism is EXCLUSIVE to Islam!!"
Ku Klux Klan, Westboro Baptist Church, Army of God, Christian Identity, Christian Patriots, Aryan Nation, Lebanese Phalangists, Tsar Lazar Guard, God's Army, Sons of Freedom, The Lord's Resistance Army, and Nagaland Rebels.
F-A-I-L!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, Islamic terrorism is exclusive to Islam.
Terrorism alone has been practiced by all faiths and probably a couple of atheists, though not in the name of atheism itself.
Also, WWII Nazis. I would call the Nazi party terrorists.
hey, stupid follower peoples! you bomb abortion clinic....IN MY NAME! that's terrorism! PLEASE STOP THIS!!....now, i have a date with tom cruise, so if you'll all excuse me......
Oh no it's not.
There is still Irish & Basque, in Europe alone. And there are other movements that are extreme that could go terrorist.
So where do you get all your misinformation?
Did I not just read someone called Raani on this website quoted as saying With any luck, some radical will blow up the gay school. as the Bible condemns it?
And exactly how is 'Terrorising' people different to 'Shocking and Awing' them anyway?
Dear Mr./Ms. Scapegoat,
You are ignoring the obvious. What else was the purpose of the initial stages of "Shock and Awe" but inducing terror in the inhabitants of Baghdad? Or are you of the mindset that terrorism in the name of a government is not terrorism? In that case some of the terrorist acts out of the Mideast are not actually acts of terror but something else? If you are willing to acknowledge that state sponsored terrorism is still terrorism then George Bush was the sponsor of one of the most egregious acts of terrorism of our generation.
And scapegoat, if you are a supporter of George Bush or even if you voted for him in 2004 that makes you guilty of supporting acts of terror. Thus, good Christian scapegoat, you are essentially a terrorist yourself. How long will you ignore the obvious?
Here's what he said when another RR member sait they had family members killed by the IRA.
"When was the last IRA terror attack? When did the IRA ever attack non-Brits?
12,000 terror attacks since 911....and because 1 or maybe 2 were not committed by Muslims.... we can never declare that Islam is the face of terror??"
Here's one that ought to send this guy into a tizzy, and I'm honestly surprised that it hasn't yet been mentioned in these comments:
King George III referred to George Washington as a terrorist for his guerrilla tactics during the revolution. I believe on more than one occasion, too.
I bet this cockswallow doesn't realise that terrorism existed before 2001.
EDIT because I just saw this:
"When did the IRA ever attack non-Brits?"
The Omagh bombing (though that was the Real IRA, not the Provisionals who are what most people associate the name IRA with, but Christian terrorists associated with the Troubles in Northern Ireland nonetheless) killed Irish and Spanish people as well as Brits. You fail. Badly so. (And even if the IRA never did attack non-Brits, so fucking what? Are our lives worth less? On second thoughts, don't answer that.)
No, it isn't. Terrorism is a tactic used by any belligerent. When you were bullying younger kids for their lunch money, you were practicing terrorism. When you threatened a younger sibling with harm, you were a terrorist.
Please, for humanity's sake, go and learn something.
Hmm, it appears that you're inspiring fear against Islam in order to get you're point across, however incorrect.
Yeah, it appears that you didn't plan very well.
Bombing abortion clinics, IRA, right-wing militia groups, KKK, skinheads. I bet those were all Muslim too.
Abortion Clinic Bombing.
'nuff said.
As a confirmed Anti-Islamic opinion-holder, I can tell you: no, terrorism is NOT confined to Islam. Islam simply has a higher propensity towards terrorism than other religions and social/political movements.
Womens' Health Clinics, Oaklahoma Federal Building, UniBomber, just to name a few.
Want to take your head out of your ass and come up for air?
It's true. The IRA were all Islamic.
As was Timothy McVeigh.
Oh, and ETA.
In fact, all those terrorists that you don't know or care about because they didn't attack YOUR country.
Dumb fuck.
NEWSFLASH: Terrorism has been around a lot longer than you think. Other countries have been dealing with it for a loooooong time. They also think about why it happens, even if they don't agree with it. Perhaps you might want to do that? Nobody attacks another country for no reason, and no, it's not because they're jealous of your *cough* democracy.
How long will you ignore the obvious? You're a brain dead, bigoted, uneducated twat.
EDIT: I've just read further down the thread where some retard says that the IRA didn't conduct acts of international terrorism. Hmmmmm...... Eire is one country, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is another. So, if the IRA bombs anywhere in the UK, it's between two different nations aka INTERNATIONAL! God! Can't these people refrain from commenting on things they have no fucking idea about?!
Just to add yet one more group of terrorists who weren't "Islamic" -Baader Meinhoff
Listen "scapegoat" I grew up while the IRA and the Provos were bombing the UK where I live ,I was in Germany when Baader Meinhoff /Red Army Faction were bombing there, I was in Italy when the Red Brigades blew up Bologna railway station.
While I am in no way an expert on this I certianly sodding well know more than you do .
"When have the IRA ever bombed non-Brits??"
The Omagh bombing killed Spanish tourists. The Provisional IRA had sleeper cells in Germany and Gibraltar, as well as elsewhere in continental Europe. And the people of Northern Ireland have enjoyed dual citizenship since 1921 as per the terms of the Anglo-Irish Agreement, making them Irish as well as British.
Epic political history fail.
At least one of RR's members was able to prove him wrong. As for the rest of the weirdos there, they actually WANT tensions between India & Pakistan to escalate - with NUKES - to accelerate their beloved 'Rapture'!
And such people are allowed to BREED, let alone vote?!
I only hope Obama can be a peacemaker there, as he's said he would between Israel & Palestine (Carter did with Israel & Egypt).
The Army of God, Christian Identity, Aryan Nations, Hare Krishnas, IRA, ETA are not Muslim. It isn't exclusive to Islam.
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"This is your last warning!"
Ummm, how can it be our last warning when you've cut and pasted the same crap several times to various threads on page one alone?
Obvious idiot is obvious.
Do us all a favor, and fuck off.
You seem to imply there is something wrong if a babykilling abortion mill is burned or bomb. Which do you prefer, a pile of bricks or a pile of dead babies? Innocent unborn babies deserve to be protected just as born children deserve to be protected. You would have no problem protecting born children if they were about to be murdered.
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Actually, RevSpitz, you're doing much more damage that the doctors that perform the abortion. Do you want to know why? Because, with the bombing, you save no one. As a matter of fact, you generally end up killing several pregnant woman.
Both the mothers, and the "Children," as you like to call the fetuses.
Those two sentenses are contradictions to each other. As it's obvious to anyone who has ever studied history or current affairs, most religions and people have, at some time or other, tried to force others to conform to their belief system, through terror-inducing means, then terrorism most certainly is not exclusive to Islam.
Nice username...
Except when it isn't. Countless acts of terrorism have been perpetrated by individuals and organisations that were no more Islamic than the Pope.
IRA, Baader Meinhoff, Red Brigade, ETA, McVeigh, Unibomber............and so on and so on and so on.
"How long will people ignore the obvious.... Terrorism is EXCLUSIVE to Islam!!"
Such is the insidiousness of Americentric thought. Especially when you only watch Faux News. And thus allow it to brainwash you:
'TV is the reason why less than 10 per cent of our nation reads books daily.
Why most people think "Central America" means Kansas.
"Socialism" means unAmerican.
And "Apartheid" is a new headache remedy.'
-"Television, the Drug of the Nation", Disposable Heroes of Hip-Hoprisy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgOWTM5R2DA
If it weren't for intelligent, educated intellectual Americans, if I didn't know better, I'd start accepting that the comedy film "Idiocracy" (by Mike Judge) was actually a documentary, on subsequent viewings.
Stupidity. It should be illegal.
What surprises me a little with these sort of comments is well, okay, I see why these nutjobs think Paul Hill etc. is not terrorism* but you'd at least think that they'd bring up "Red terrorists" of which there have been several groups particularly in the 60's and 70's, eg. the likes of the Italian Red Brigades, etc.
*i.e their belief is his views are correct = not terrorism, which is invalid, but whatever.
Confused?
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