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Fundies Say the Darndest Things! April
2003 Edition
"Since there is no credible conventional explanation for the geological layers, it amazes me when people say there is no evidence for a global flood when they are probably standing on it right now. Wasn't there a classic novel about hiding things in plain
sight?" "God left evidence. The Shroud of Turin, to be exact." "He [Pharaoh] could have prevented the death of the egyptian children at any time, but his pride was like stone, and he wouldn't give in. You all really need to get away from this 'lets make God
like us' arguments. Report God to child abuse services? W[hat]t[he]h[ell],
this is God, not your next door neighbor. You can't base his actions on
human understanding and societal standards, it won't work!" "And again, you are basing your views on society. God
is not part of human society. He isn't bound by our laws or morals, He
created them and He can break them." [Replying to 'why is it bad for pharaoh to do
something, but ... isn't bad for your god...?] "Because God does
it for unselfish reasons. God has the right to cast judgement on sinners.
Humans don't because they are sinners. Its hypocritical." "A baby DOES understand what and who God is. Its the
adults that screw it up." [Replying to 'Do you believe the Flood of Noah
happened?'] "Of course it did. Not only does the Bible say it but
where do evolutionists think all of the millions of fossils in layers of
strata all over the world came from? " "Regardless, it took Noah 100 years to build the ark,
the animals that weren't near Noah [like penguins and kangaroos]
had 100 years to get to Noah. You could easily walk around the globe in
100 years, and walk half the globe even easier." "... the Grand Canyon? Instead of a small
amount of water over a long period of time I say it was a GREAT amount of
water in a short time. And Antarctica? Easy, the FLOOD!! " "Are you ever going to come to the understanding that
no amount of 'reasoning' on your part or of others is going to get me to
change my mind. I am not in here for that. I am completely adamant in my
faith that He did it in 6 days jst as His word clearly states." "If God doesn't exist, then explain the Jews." "Hinduism, buddhist and such are superstitious junk.
Designed out of fear and ignorance." "The UN building should be used as target practice
for Army howitzers and that's about all the good that will ever come out
of the UN." [On equal rights for homosexuals] "Once we
legitimize one mental illness, what's next?" "But a day of reckoning is coming. They will have to
answer to all those unborn 'fetus'. I hope I am allowed to see it!" [Commenting on this website] "I didnt make the
list again... "in this country witchcraft is considered a religion.
as long as there are no human sacrifices witches are protected by the law.
i think witchcraft is evil because they worship satan. " [After it's pointed out that Wiccans don't worship
Satan] "Believing Christians know that the worship of any other
god than the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ is satan
worship." "The Word of God has said that we shall have no other
gods before Him. The worship of other gods is a great sin and worthy of
death." "There is One God, Almighty God. There are no other gods. The Old Testament of the Holy Bible commands those who worship other gods be stoned to death. This old covenant law does not apply after the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. The new covenant of the Gospel of God's Grace commands us to depart from evil. Yes, witchcraft, wicca, paganism, and satanism are evil.
It is ridiculous to call these religious groups or think they have
anything to do with religion." "Most Christians I know of believe there is One
Almighty God in the form of Three Deities [?! Well, at least he's
honest.] called the Holy Trinity, BUT ONE GOD: God the Father, God the
Son, and God the Holy Spirit. " [On what the carnivores ate after the Noachic flood]
"Maybe this is why some animals are extinct now; when they got off
the boat, they didn't get 10 yards before the lions and tigers and bears
got to them. 'Survival of the fittest' -- after the creation." "If one follows these things for as long as I have it
becomes obvious that evolutionary belief is a moving target because as
soon as one argument for it is proven wrong another arises to take its
place. This happens so regularly it could almost be considered a Law of
Nature." "Give me one secular reason why I should care about
anyone else, except for how they can benefit me..." "Anything wrong with me, say, killing someone I don't
love who gets in my way if I know I won't be caught?" "Ah but remember we are told to be generous to hthose
around us because we may be entertaining angels unaware. So they can
appear amopng us without us knowing they are angels." "Use that common sense. If God says Adam will die
from eating from the Tree, obviously not eating from it means He won't
die. God gave you a brain for a reason." "You have no proof that the originals weren't
inerrant, whats wrong with assuming they are? You can say they were errant
all you want, but until you can prove it ( good luck), its moot. God is
perfect, and the original Bible is His word. Logical conclusion based on
our beliefs means if He is perfect, His word most likely is too." "Since none of us are stupid, I can only surmise we
are being ignored and that there is no logical L[atter]D[ay]S[aint]
explanations. It is simple the LDS apostle said it, we cannot question it
therefore it is true." "Mormonism is one of the devil's strongest
counterfeits in these last days. I grieve for the millions who have been
led away from salvation by this slick cult." "I know you don't want an answer based on belief.
Sorry, I'm YEC and nothing, I mean nothing, would ever make me doubt God's
word." "I was just stating that there is no evidence that
evolutionists or other scientists could give me that would me think that
the Bible was not true." "Bacteria is usually 'friendly' it helps break down
our food, so we can digest it. Bacteria helps break down matter that is no
longer alive, to recycle it into fertilize. The problem is, when some
people are dead in their sin, then the bacteria gets confused." "There are 5,110 pages returned in google for
'creationism flood model.' I'm sure one of them addresses your
concern." "Well in my [Christian] school, when I took
biology 11 and biology 12, we never talked about evolution nor did they
teach it! Thank the Lord!" "I can not tell the difference between a demon and a
sickness. They look the same to me." "Schizophrenia is an emotional problem that manifests
itself physically." "There is no such thing as Schizophrenia, it is a
fabricated lie from the medical community." "ADD/ADHD are completely bogus disorders, they do not
exist." "The bible is full of evidence that God is the answer
for the things that concern the mind & heart. There is however no
evidence that there are other options. God is sufficient, and we have
become a people who have been greatly deceived into trusting science in
areas that are wholly worthy of God's provision [like psychiatry]." [Replying to 'prayer and medicine may both be used']
"Where in the entire bible is there one shred of evidence that
medicine is helpful in relation to the heart & mind that suffers from
confusion, delusion, fear, anxiety, depression, or lack of peace?" "There is no such thing as a mental 'disease', just because someone claims there is. Do you believe that there is such a thing as an alcoholic? God calls them drunkards. I have provided ample evidence from the bible to dispute
anyone's claims, and no one has provided even one passage to prove their
acceptance of these atheistic scientific claims of mental diseases." "The answer to mental and emotional instabilty is in
Christ, and not in ourselves or medication. The bible is clear on this,
and it is not debatable." *** Post of the Week for April 27-May 3, 2003 *** [Replying to 'medication... should not be spoken of as evil'] "I am very surprised at you Freak, that you would be so blatantly blasphemous of God, and the bible. You have clearly proven yourself an idol worshipper. I am really sick of all you so-called Christians who
continue to reject the truth that has been so obviously laid before you
straight from the bible, for the wisdom of man." "I just find it hard to believe that anyone who claims to be a Christian would blatantly deny the clear evidence that I have given from the bible, and in return offer absolutely NONE!! Freak has done both, as well as many others who 'claim' to be believers. Again, there is no such thing as schizophrenia and if you
believe that there is, you are wallowing in deception. You are denying the
gospel of Christ, and calling God a liar." "C'mon all you God forsaking faithless 'Christians', dispute my evidentiary post that clearly proves God's claims [that medication shouldn't be taken for mental illness]. I realize the bible is not enough of a source, but lets
try and humor God for a minute and see if He knows anything about the
heart & mind!" "I'm a legalist, because I claim that man should be wholly dependent on God for matters of the heart & mind, and I suppose you are teaching grace by prescribing Prozac? You are an idiot!" "The entire psychiatric profession is a fraud, and
you are blind to it. God and His word were here first, so it is up to you
to prove something that did not come to be until Freud! I make no
assertions, but you dwell in them, because you love the world, and despise
God." "I'm tired of arguing with people who put more faith in what doctors and scientists say about a subject than God, and then they get upset when I call them idolators. Gavin, you & Freak are so incredibly decieved it is
beyond anyone's ability to reason with you. I gave you passages from the
bible and you point me to websites [like the American Psychiatric
Society] formulated by Godless atheists! You are such hypocrites to
claim to be Christians, and then reject His very word, for the wisdom of
this world!" "My dear psuedo intellectual child, I only agree that
you have chosen to spit in God's face, and call Him a liar with your
bedfellow atheists that you promote as having the answers to man's needs.
And you do this under the guise of a moderator on a 'Christian' website.
You are a disgrace to the church!" "I really believe that you are just trying to cover
your butt when you claim that God uses medicine for (fabricated) mental
illnessess. It gives you a way out when you exorcise someone and they
don't get healed or delivered." "God does not, nor will not use medication to heal
fear, depression, hopelessness, or to bring peace, and your proclamation
that He does only solidifies the fact that you believe in another God, and
another Jesus." "And I swear to God, it's a good thing there's no
abortion clinics where I live, or I'd blow it up." "Given the vast distances in space, the youth of the
universe, the improbability of advanced life in the universe, the
impossibility of traveling faster than light, the odds of a spaceship
worm-holing it and landing on earth (of all the other gazillions of
places) all cause me to view Ufo's crash landing here as virtually
impossible even if 'theoretically possible'. If you think there is a
parallel between that impossible Roswell alien nonsense and the
historicity and Jesus of Nazareth, well, feel free to demonstrate
it." [Replying to 'intelligent design is untestable']
"What is to test? If you have any intelligence at all, then you know
that God is the creater of the universe and all that is in it." "I prefer a good CS Lewis book to Harry Potter. "I agree and I will not allow Harry Potter or
anything else related to witchcraft in my home. When someone mentions it
to my 3 year old son, he says "Harry Potter is witchcraft"[...]
Anyway, anything that tries to make magic seem cool and mystical is yet
another tool of satan." "The Bible says that nobody is to have anything to do
with witchcraft. And that is what Harry Potter is witchcraft! Also I bet
you didn't no that the writer is a satinest! And I don't think I would
want any kids reading thoes books! And I am a kid I'm only 12! I have read
and seen the books and the movie. And they are so awful!!!!!!!!!! What
kind of parent would let their kids see a movie about witches and
wizards." "The Harry Potter series is straight from the hand of Satan, opposing God's plan of great Love and salvation for His people. I agree, there is nothing cute about encouraging kids to
try out their 'sorcery' skills." "I don't know for sure that the things in Harry Potter are definitely from Satan and his minions (as a matter of fact, I won't even go near the movies or books myself). But, in my mind, that's not the point. I don't have to know that something is definitely evil. All I have to know is that there is the potential that it could harm my son's soul. That is enough for me to stay away from something like Harry Potter. How many parents out there would be willing to gamble with
their children's physical lives based on a maybe? Yet there are parents
out there who are willing to gamble with their children's eternal lives
based on a maybe?????!!!!!" "But according to the Big Bang theory, the elements
beyond hydrogen and helium were formed after millions of years, the Earth
was formed long after the stars, plants evolved after the sun, birds
evolved from reptiles, and the sun was formed before the Earth." "As it says in Matthew 28, Jesus rose from the dead.
Why are you letting satan control your life by trying to insult
christians? What proof do you have that He did not ?I beleive that it
happened just like the bible says. Try reading the bible again ." "Is the resurrection power of God real? Yes it is,
people are raised from the dead all the time. Aids patients by the
thousands are healed of aids, even those that are close to dead and could
die at any time. They are healed, their bones take on flesh and you would
never know they were ever sick to look at them." "I was just quoting what I read in Matthew. I am not a historian. I guess it is blind faith. You might call it by another name though." *** Post of the Week for April 20-26, 2003 *** "What are the general character traits and personality profiles of American anti-war protestors? Undoubtably some are religious pacifists who believe that all killing is evil. However, if the anti-war demonstrations in San Francisco and others cities are any indication, these protestors tend to fall into the following subcategories: 1. Liberal democrats with a strong disdain for
conservative Republican causes and George Bush in general. Isn't it peculiar that the type of person most opposed to
war might also be a sexual-predator baby-killer eco-terrorist
liberal?" "Furthermore, it [an ancient biography of
Apollonius of Tyana that included spectacular miracles] was
commissioned by the emperor’s mother whose son just happened to be a
believer. Not exactly a reliable source." "Of course those who believe in the Healing Power of
God, tend to get healed, and those who do not, tend to die off." "The next time I saw her, she then talked about
science and asked 'What if there was scientific proof that Jesus was never
was raised from the dead? Would that change your faith?' I was astonished
and replied, 'No, no scientific proof, ever, would change my belief about
Christ our Lord being resurrected.' Plain and simple. It is a mystery of
eternal life from God. We shouldn't question... just ponder and rejoice in
faith." "Leviticus 17:11 'For the life of the flesh is in the blood...' Medical doctors didn't know this until the late 1800s.
" "DEEP IMPACT. Good movie to watch. Hollywood knows more than we are privy to. Why do you think the govt spends so much on Hubble
telescope, when the medical and education systems are in shambles?" "YOU claim they [literal 'storehouses of snow' in
the atmosphere, mentioned in Job] aren't there. I'm sticking with God
and the knowledge that I dont know everything and cant see everything. If
you are so sure you know 100% everything about weather cycles, go outside
and make it snow. You can't. Why? Because you aren't God and DONT know
everything." "Just think about all the Christian soldiers that are
in Iraq now. It's probably the first time in a long time since there were
that many Christians in that country! Some of the soldiers might even get
a chance to witness to the Muslims. What an awesome opportunity the Lord
has given Christians." "Just a few days ago, everybody was cheering that the Iraqis have been 'liberated'. Now everybody's suddenly discovered that Iraq is full of Muslims, and the site is awash with people denouncing Islam as 'Satanic'. I'm getting a mixed message here. Did we just liberate
millions of Satanists? If Islam is so evil, why did we liberate
them?" "You have to admire the faith of Muslims, misguided
as it is. They are told constantly that Allah will give them victory and
all they get is defeat. You would think they'd wake up at some point and
say 'Man, Allah sucks!'" "this is true. and the reason is because man is a
supernatural being, and the experiences of a human ordinarily point him to
the supernatural, thus evidence that God exists." *** Post of the Week for April 13-19, 2003 *** "In my city, they use these gay ass natural gas
powered busses. They're all over. It's ridiculous." "I can tell you that the earth is only about 6000
yrs. old. Scientist are not telling you the truth about the earth are were
we came from!" "If there really was a big bang, why are planets near
perfect in size. I mean if it was a giant explosion, wouldn't the planets
be in different shapes and sizes. Why isn't there a planet in like the
shape of an asteriod or such?" "My idea of what we will do in heaven is the same
thing we were supposed to do in the beginning. Love God, let him love us,
revel in that relationship, and do whatever work he assigns us to
do." "Well, they are athiest or agnostic men for the most
part. That should say something about their habits." [Replying to a statement that heaven sounds boring]
"I see, so that sounds worse then spending all of eternity in an
unquenching fire with nothing to do but suffer and be tormented, with no
relief whatsoever? Are you a masochist?" [After people shoot down his comments for the umpteenth
time] "Jesus said Christians would be persecuted and hated for
following Him, so its not like i'm surprised." "My purpose of coming here was not to make friends.
Ill stick with my friends on Christian boards who don't act like jerks
every other post just because someone doesn't agree with them." "You really don't know much about Roman Catholicism
do you? It is the most heretical, unbiblical load of crap there is. Ever
been to Rapture Ready? The apologetics topics are 90% of the time about
Catholics because of how completely unbiblical they are. The Catechism and
the Vatican/Pope take precedence over the Bible. 90% of the Doctrine
Catholics follow are based on the Catechism, not the Bible, and they not
only have no scriptural support - they have scriptural verses that
specifically say what they believe in is wrong and blasphemy. The Catholic
church is the biggest disgrace to Christianity there is." [In a discussion about pornography] "Why do we even need to draw nudes in the first place? We don't." "As we are fallen, we are ugly and depraved in that
form because we lust after each other. God gave us clothes for a
reason." "IMO all desires are wrong. . .and merely a result of
the flesh, something we should work to escape rather than nourish." "There will be no sex in Heaven." "You right, its not good for humans to kill untold
millions of children. But its acceptable for God because has the right to
take life away." "God could very well have put fossils on Earth to
deceive scientists, in order to test their faith. And in the case of
Evolutionists, they failed the test miserably. Sorry, I will take Genesis
over fallible humans any day, until God tells me otherwise." "And no. Jack Chick is right 99 percent of the time. Catholics just don't see it." "You are in a state of denial. Gays are their own
worse enemy, and misery loves company. For example, almost 50% of the gays
segregated themselves into isolated communities in NYC, SFS, and LA." "If it is a choice, those people certainly don't have
the right to be around children or hold positions of authority where they
can impose their gayness on others. They also shouldn't be allowed to
marry, as this only encourages them." "If it didn't change their ability to function around
children or in positions of authority, I would agree. However, I assert
that it does. It's just like I wouldn't let a retard babysit my kid; I
similarly wouldn't let a faggot babysit my kid." "What do you believe in? I ask this question because I'm getting the impression you believe that your god is a god who judges no one; he accepts all into his loving arms no matter what they do or believe. If this is true, the only problem with this line of
thinking is this god only exists in your mind." "The Bible is the inspired word of God....It is all
true or all false.....You can not pick and choose from it." "And P.s...there acually is scientific research
proving the exsistance of God, you should look into it sometime" "And how do you all propose that the world came
about? That an atom was moving so fast it went through a solid block and
stopped in the middle, creating a black hole which created the
universe?....Didnt think so" "Homosexuality is a test of faith. God gives you
something, and you fall so madly in love with it that you can't imagine
getting rid of it. Then God asks you to give it up. Will you do it out of
true dedication to the God who created you?" "There are to many unknowns for science to tell you
that God isn't real. The same scientist who tells you that God isn't real
can't even explain the forces that are necessary for you to be able to sit
in front of this computer. Science knows next to nothing in the grand
scheme of things." "We know how to use electricity but scientists can't
really explain all the principles it works on. Explain that." "There is opened upon the judgment day 3 books. The
book of the righteous and the book of the sinner are opened and these are
judged accordingly. After that a book of the ordinary is opened and those
people who couldn't decide for or against God will be given 10 days to
decide who they support. Then they will be judged according to their
decision." "So many lost people on here from the deconversion
list. Would to hate to be an atheist responsible for leading someone to
Hell at judgement." "Be careful of what? I can gaurantee you, i will
never be an atheist, EVER. There isn't didly you can do to deconvert
me." "They chose to believe atheistic lies, instead of
God's word. Thats their fault, and atheists just push them in the wrong
direction." "Oh trust me. I wouldn't be atheist for the mere
reason that i wouldn't want to belong to a group of such, hateful,
sarcastic, and sin loving people. I hate lying, hate cussing, don't
believe in sex before marriage etc., and I was like that long before i
became Christian. I would never want to be among atheists." "And where did the Golden rule come from? Either God
( since it was first introduced in the Bible), or society ( in which case
what i said is entirely true)." "40 million babies have been killed because stupid
people who don't take responsibility don't feel like dealing with them.
And you criticize God for killing children in the flood?" "Because creationist(YEC) do not have the resources
that evolutionist have to rely on. You would think that with all the
resources they [scientists who accept evolution] do have that more
tests would be done to disprove the existance of God instead of resorting
to personal opinions and personal attacks of those who even dare to
differ." "But strangely, compared with other A[ncient]N[ear]E[ast]
literature, look how much [absurd stories] isn't in the Bible (pace
Von Daniken!!). Only two animals speaking. Only once the sun standing
still, and once going back. Only one flood. A rather muted Resurrection
account." [Replying to 'satan is a figment of the imagination]
"Well satan sure has done his job in deceiving you. I'll be praying
that your eyes are opened to the truth. " "So to sum up, the earth is about 6000 years old.
(add up the ages of all the people in the bible...not hard, but time
consuming and well worth it. and when you get to the end, add 2003 for our
current year and you have a fairly close date. You can also learn neat
things like Adam lived long enough so that he could have known Noah's dad.
Imagine family reuinions then?) We lived with the dinosaurs. Dinosaurs
were on the ark. probably babies, just had to be sure it was a boy and a
girl. We hunted them to extinction. 'Slaying dragons' "Keep in mind, man's abhorence and/or avoidance of
the creation and the flood have little to do with his search for truth,
but it has everything to do with the frightening implications that the lay
of the land and the waters is a visible mark of the truth of God's wrath
as well as mercy. Further, the idea of man getting better, which is the
core of every evolutionary construct, is unachievable in a Biblical sense.
That is too much for other religions and most men to bare, because it
makes them responsible for their actions and their condition. Hence, the
need for a Saviour, and the refusal to believe that He is necessary." [After a sarcastic comment on his total ignorance of
the subject] "My how arrogant and intolerant you are. I'm not
sure eviolution is worth believing in if you act this obnoxiously-it's a
clear sign that evolution progresses toward the higher levels and then
regresses-with people like you showing clear signs or reverting back to
the brutes their ancestors were." [On the evolutionary origin of birds] "I say
fish. Look at the penguin who swims in both degrees of the firmament! Some
species of birds actually fly in both water and air. To me, that's alot
more persuasive argument than dinosaurs evolving into birds." [After equating the Roman Catholic Church to the 'Whore of Babylon' in Revelations] "Conspiracy theories?.....whose talking about conspiracy theories? These are FACTS about the governments. The FACTS are that the RCC in her morphed form will assimiliate everyone on earth or else. Metaphors?.....yeah..right.....weird how the metaphors describing the RCC seem to coincide in EVERY WAY, with the description of the organization in Revelation 17. You have a problem with that ?..take it up with God." "i've taken evolution/anthropology classes too. so if
patrick ewing [a basketball player] and bill gates fall into a salt
mine together, i one million years when thier fossils are found, they'll
say that one is human and one is ape right?" "This is the same group of 'scientists' that put foil
over their heads to block unwanted 'electromagnetic interference' to try
to disprove the existence of God." "If Darwin was correct in his assesment of the
development of life, why do humans need clothes?" [Replying to 'what did the animals eat after the global
flood?] "Forgetting exhumed carrion, which carnivores would
rather eat than expend energy hunting, or fish trapped in pools left
behind by retreating floodwaters." "Not necessarily, because freshwater is less dense
and is KNOWN to be able to float on saltwater for a long time." "I know full well how convincing the 'facts' of
evolution are. It took quite a while to deprogram myself from it. I am
very sure that in the time since I dropped my belief in Evolution, that
there has been a lot more 'evidence' presented. This is going to make it
even harder to keep from buying into." "Groups that descended into animism [after Noah's
flood] might never emerge from this ‘stone age’ of their
development, because of the stifling effects of such things as taboos, and
fear of evil spirits. One tribal group in the Philippines, for example,
had a taboo against water, causing rampant disease due to lack of hygiene—before
the Gospel of Jesus Christ rescued them from superstition." *** Post of the Month for April 2003 *** "Last night, I was reading to my two children out of their 'children's bible.' We got to the story of Abraham and Isaac and I read to them about Abraham being willing to sacrifice Isaac in obedience to God. When we finished my son, who is 9, looked very distraught. He then asked me the most difficult question that I have ever heard in my life....'Would you do that to me if God asked you to?' I sat for a moment and franically thought of what was best to say. Needless to say, my pause was cause for alarm in his mind. After a few agonizing moments, I responded with a very slow and distraught...'Yes. If God commanded me to, then I would have no choice but to be obedient; however, I hope that God would never demand such a thing from me.' He looked shocked. And I felt that I had said the wrong thing. Of course, my wife immediately spoke up and said that she would not ever do anything to hurt him. But I began to explain myself to him. I told him that he
was saved, and that death on this earth brings life in heaven with Jesus.
He understood perfectly and then said something amazing. He looked at his
mother and said, 'I would rather die and go to heaven and God would be
happy with you for obeying Him, than to know that when I died you could go
to hell for not doing what you were told.'" "I've heard of New Agers who believe that [evil
people will be raptured], but not Jews before. It's things like this
that offer extra-Biblical proof (not that we need it) for a pretrib[ulation]
rapture--because otherwise, why would Satan start this kind of
heresy?" "People today are so brainwashed! Why don't people
question scientist's theories?" [To someone questioning the doctrine of hell on ethical
grounds] "Sorry to miss your point, and I understand where you
are coming from....and believe me, if I listened to my conscience all the
time, I'd depart the faith." "Iraq is now wide open for the proclamation of the
gospel, y'know?" [Replying to 'would you accept the claims in the
Qu'ran?'] "Depends. Something of a miraculous nature, no. Because
Christianity is true that report is either false or of demonic
origin." "I see the ACLU has its dick where it doesn't belong
once again. I think making him [a student] read the bible was an
excellent punishment for a faggot. Detention obviously isn't going to make
him realize that his ways are wrong, but perhaps the word of God
will." "They apparently assigned it because he was running his mouth about his sexuality. The school has every right to assign additional reading as a punishment. Make students smarter rather than waste everyones time by having them sit in detention. OMG NO it's a CRIME! Being a faggot is the only real crime here; a crime
against humanity." "Abandoning 5000 years of progress because some sick
people don't like the fact that religion condemns them, and since society
is so dead set on equal rights, the popular idea is to throw religion out
the window." "Talking about being a homo is disruptive to the
learning envoirnment. Just like girls wearing skirts that are too short
can be punished for breaking the rules, even though they have 'free
speech,' it's perfectly appropriate to punish someone for talking about
his sexuality especially because his particular sexuality is controversial
and disruptive. The school believes that his conduct was inappropriate to
the school enviornment and issued the punishment of reading from the
bible: A very appropriate punishment. He should do his assigned reading
and shut the fuck up." "But that doesn't give a child the right to disrupt
the school enviornment, talking about how much of a faggot he is. What he
said and what he is is largely irrelevant to the issue. He disrupted the
school day by bringing up a controversial issue at an obviously
inappropriate time. He was appropriately punished. The only reason this is
even an issue is because the ACLU stuck its dick in the matter to try to
push its liberalism and pro-faggot stance." "And do answer your question, if God undeniably said
torture was acceptable, then yes i guess it would be since He can't be
wrong or do that which isn't holy ( which is the reason why i don't think
He would ever say torture is ok for us to do, since it isn't holy)." [Trying to reconcile 'no death before the fall' with
empirical evidence] "As for the [T-Rex] teeth, I saw how
it would become useful for eating trees (I realize this sounds
ridiculous). Given those teeth (I looked at a website with teeth from many
dinosaurs), I saw that the teeth would be well suited for tough wood as
well." "The velociraptor has a sickle shaped sharp claw in
the middle of each foot. I saw that this could have been used for the
purpose of climbing trees." "As for the bones with 'teeth marks', while it does
seem to be from carnivore teeth marks, the marks may have been caused from
acidic sediment. The marks also could have been caused from sharp objects
that were undoubtedly thrown around by the swirling waters of the flood.
These dinosaurs had to have been swirled around, like clothes in a washing
machine, in this catastrophic flood." "Have you considered that the fish 'eating' a fish
when it got fossilized, could be a simple case one on top of another? Or
perhaps both were dead and in what must have been a swirling malestrom,
one got "stuck" in the other's mouth?" "It may be that the dinosaurs were from that earlier
kingdom when Satan was given a kingdom (a small one)." "If you accept evolution you deny God, you are
therefore an atheist." "Another theory I can advance is that some of the
bugs that lived underground survived [Noah's flood] via
hibernation." [On tree-ring dating] "Wonder how much the guy
who kept track of all of the tree's birthdays got paid? He was there when
it was just a seed, right?" "What musuems (cities) house half fish/hlaf monkey
fossils (etc)?" "It has nothing to do with me not liking the idea of
being random. It has to do with making sense. Out of the millions of miles
earth is from the sun, if we were 10 miles in either direction, the planet
would be nearly unihabitable. The planet was put in its precise orbit by
God, not some lucky chance." "This is an unfair match because we recognize that
esince evolutionists are highly trained in storytelling and they have been
doing this for years with ample government funding. This funding permits
them to avoid earning an honest living like creationists have to do and to
devote their every waking minute to making up new stories and publishing
them in their private magazines." "Of course, evolution is compatible with
'Christianity' of a wimpy liberal sort, e.g. the type held by 'Christian'
women who unequally yoke with unbelievers." "I first developed some need in the afterlive, which
later developed into belief in God. From your post I gather your first
lost your belief in God, and later saw no need of the afterlife." "Except that evolutionism has NOTHING to do with
science and math and EVERYTHING to do with bigoted materialism. We already
know that Jimmy has the typical humanist hatred of Christianity and
Patriotism." "Amazing how 'Allah' hasn't straightened out all
those people praying to him about all the wrong ideas they have. Instead
of leading them to Christ and out of a satanic religion 'Allah' continues
to grow Islam at a rapid rate leading millions to hell." "my personal belief is that allah is a pagan moon god
who is now a minion of Satan..." "People can twist the truth any way they want, but facts are still facts. Isalm = Evil, all of it, every single person involved is
100% aginst Christ, again, I say, EVIL." "Yes it happened [Balaam's donkey spoke]. And
there is no evidence for the contrawise, so why shouldn't I believe
it?" "If a talking donkey is so indicative of the
gullibility of them ancient hebrews (and by implication, us Christians),
why wasn't there more of them? How many talking animals are there in the
Bible? 1....er...1." "evolution is based purely on the imaginations and
fantasies of scoffers of the Bible. There's no science involved." "The Paluxy river in Glen Rose, Texas... was found to
have millions of dinosaur and human footprints side by side! Now if them
years were millions of years old why are there human footprints beside
dino ones??" "One of the reasons I was impressed with creationist
writing and speaking at the beginning was not just their use of data, but
the attitude with which it was presented. Instead of hearing, or reading,
“this is the way it was” as though it were already known for sure, I
was hearing an invitation to think and reason for myself, which was quite
refreshing." "When it comes to Catholicism, he's [Jack Chick
is] SPOT on, 99 percent of the time..." "There is a big difference. The roman and greek mythology is set (to borrow from starwars) 'long long ago in a land far far away'. Nobody understood the roman mythology as having occured
down the road in palestine a real number of years ago." [Commenting on the works of the Lucasian Professor of
Mathematics at Cambridge University, Stephen Hawking] "This
thread, as well as 'Universe in a Nutshell' suffers from marked
3-dimensional thinking. 'Universe in a Nutshell' was a very poor read. I
read it last weekend and found myself laughing at some of the
idiocy." "And no, hawking isn't an idiot, though I distrust
cripples." "My point is that the vast majority of cripples use
their crippled status to gain an advantage over everyone else (Example:
Casey Martin). That is why I distrust cripples in general. It isn't that a
cripple couldn't earn my trust; it would just be more difficult for him
than an able bodied individual." "So doing a detailed study of something requires that
one takes a class for it in a university and reads books papers written on
it by 'real scientists'? Wow, I never knew that. Thanx for enlightening
me." "Do you know why the creationist students are failing
in our highschools and colleges? Because most of them teach evolution! If
you don't believe in evolution (or at least pretend to) you're history! I
have heard countless stories of my friends getting F's on everything from
homework to tests because they didn't use evolution as the premisis for
their answers. They used God. That is why they are failing." "I think it is hilarious that you still think that in
order to do a detailed study of evolution, you have to read 10 different
books on it and take brainwashing classes from a university. Maybe you
just like making yourself feel superior to me...who knows..." "how did a particle of star dust turn into a living
organism?" "since you follow darwin would it suprise you to
learn that darwin's theory is based off the asumption that microbiology
doesn't exist and that if microbiology was proven to exist he stated that
his theory would be dead" "the only difference between a human and a
Neanderthal is that neanderthals have larger bones." "To tell the Christ-rejector that God loves him is to
cauterize his conscience as well as to afford him a sense of security in
his sins. The fact is, the love of God is a truth for the saints only, and
to present it to the enemies of God is to take the children's bread and to
cast it to the dogs." "Hydrogen and oxygen are volatile agents of
combustion, but the same are the only ingredients of water which douses
combustion. The designer/creator of these must've had a chuckle, thinking
about folks like you when he designed it all so mindbogglingly
inexplicable." "hey evolutionists I can get you a good deal on the
brookyln bridge. lol I hear the circus is hiring." "Darwin started off as a student of natural theology,
but then he defected and joined the other side. Without even knowing it,
he became a father of sorts and lead 2/3 of science astray." "I just try not to think too hard and let God worry
about how He did it. My Job is to have faith in Him and believe His
word." "WOW! A whopping people 82 people world wide have died of SARS (give or take a few) and we are going to 'quarantine' those suspected of carrying the virus yet just under half a million people have died from AIDS (IN THE US ALONE [presumably 21 million world wide]) with almost a million others slated to die (816,149 IN THE US ALONE [presumably 42 million world wide]) and we aren't allowed to quarantine those who are infected. WHY? Because those who are infected (for the most part) are FAGS (a protected group of sick and twisted, disease ridden, child molesting, abominable perverts.) AAAAAAAH! Political Correctness... isn't it GRAND" "About the fossil thing. I am about to make you look silly---be warned. THAT WAS A DIRECT QUOTE FROM A SCIENTIST. Kent Hovind. You
can go look him up if you want." "Kent Hovind is a creation scientist. This theory
about dirt and fossils was NOT his own. A professor was giving him a tour
of a museum when he, the PROFESSOR, was teaching them about the
fossil-dirt theory. Kent's daughter asked 'Isn't that circular thinking?'.
The professor acnowledged the thought, and later that week, he came to one
of his meetings. Did that help clear it up for you? Hope it did. I do
understand you wanting to question my resources. I have seen allot of very
outlandish things on this board that make you question where the poster
got his or her information. I tried to give you a good, full explanation.
I have seen many who just reply 'It was on the news'. That can be
frustrating." "The point of debates between evolutionists and
creationists is to prove there is no God [on the evolutionist's side] and
to prove there is a God [on the creationist's side]." [Referring to ancient retroviral infection fragments in
our genomes, powerful evidence for evolution] "As for any type of
viruses, Look at Revelation to the plagues. These may or may not be that
which you refer to, but I want to show you that God can indeed send new
plagues (viruses or whatever)" "I agree, It [evolution] will NOT be falsified. It will continue to delude as that is probably Gods
intentions for it." "Holy Cow, are you dense? God does NOT lie. He either can send a decieving influence to those who
refuse the truth, or He may harden or blind them further." "If you are about to present any other religion in
your next post, dont bother, I ignore other beliefs." "In my own opinon, sin is not about the victim, but
about breaking a contract with God." [Referring to an article refuting the creationist moon
dust claim] "who's saying that ur skeptic friends arent lying to
suit there own purpose. maybe ur skeptic friends are lying" "ive been reading posts on here and it seems that people keep sayin that most Christians are evolutionists and i just want to see if that is true. if there are any Christians that read this and believe creation is wrong im calling youf flat out a hypocrite. if you say you are a Christian than you believe the bible. In the begining God created the heavens and the earth....genesis 1:1. if you are a true Christian then this is what you believe. that is the easiest thing to understand that ive ever read. there is no grey area. it says what it means and if you call yourself a Christian and dont believe this then its just like saying your a Christian that doesnt believe that Christ died on the cross for your sins. If you are one of the hypocrits i speak of then i urge you
to get it together. It is plain to see that God created everything and
that if you dont believe this your not a Christian so stop lying to other
people and yourselves and making us true Christians look like a bunch of
idiots." "The point of Darwins book was to prove blacks were
uneaquil and thatis still the basis for sosialism." "scientists want evolution to be true because it is
supposed to show that there is no god. therefore they distort evidence so
they can support a theory that supports atheism" *** Post of the Week for April 6-12, 2003 *** "last september the evolutionist community finally
couldnt deny the truth any longer: the T-rex never existed. they've known
it for 8 years, but their credibility was at stake. sorry guys, there's no
such thing as a t-rex. look it up for yourselves." "it's funny to visit these website that evolutionists
post. they take little ideas and blow them up into huge essays
"completely disproving creationism" but the problem is they
ignore all the solid facts of creationism staring them in the face. how
screwed are these people who spend their entire lives furthering
evolutionism on their day of judgement." "they [humans and velociraptors] did encounter
each other, but since writing wasnt very prevalent and they were
considered a 'normal' animal noone wrote it down." "I have thus far been unable to find anything in
God's Written Word that justifies abortion. Women have died in childbirth
since the begining of time and I suppose they always will. That is a sad
fact of life. Nevertheless, I have not found it listed as justification
for abortion." "Maybe if the mothers life was in danger. But I still
think in the eyes of God it is wrong and woe be the mother who does it.
They will have to anwer for it at judgement day." "I think in no case should it be an abortion be legal
or safe and it is wrong." "... you are very arrogant [for saying abortion
can be allowed to save the mother's life], GOD said THou shalt not
murder , you can call it what you want it is still murder and every one
who has had an abortion will answer to GOD!" "BY the way I am a BAPtist not a catholic Jesus is
the only one who can forgive me of my sins not some child molesting
priest!" "Sad, so many souls lost cause in their religious
pride(just like other cults) they would rather hide their heads in the
sand and hope they are right, rahter than face the truth. Joe Smith was
deceived by satan and he now resides in hell with many dead
followers." "cats are huge wastes of oxygen and space on the
earth. There is no practical use for a cat (unless you need target
practice)." "Oh, and please don't even start with the horse
evolution. That was proven wrong 40 years ago." "As for christians who believe in evolution? Those
are just people who have been indoctrinated into believe evolution is
fact" "Even Buddhists recognize that there is a higher
authority. You know, the fat guy." "I used to be impressed by all the 'scientific' dating methods until I finally looked into the subject in detail. It amazed me how people could delude themselves so badly. Thus, I finally concluded that there is no real reason to
doubt the veracity of the Genesis narrative regarding a short age for the
Earth and probably the universe as well." "I would hope that if I make a vow to God that I
would keep it no matter the cost because I trust that He knows better than
me. I don't have any children nor have I been in a postion to sacrifice
any therefore I can't fully comment on how I would respond in that
situation. I would hope that my faith in Christ is unshakeable enought
that even when I dont understand I still trust God." [Plagiarized from a website] "One of the
biggest problems with atheism is the ultimate conclusion one must make
with regard to morality. If there is no God, there is no moral giver. No
moral-giver, no morals. No morality, nothing wrong with killing. Stepping
on a roach and killing a baby=same thing without morals." "Again, every effect must have an adequate cause. "That Christian surgical patient is now with the
Lord, while if you died [in the hospital] you would not be because
of your unbelief." "You put your trust in man, in the surgeon. We as
Christian are to put our trust in God. Surgeons can be reliable and
trustworthy, but not always. If you put your trust in man, sooner or
later, man will disappoint you. But if you trust in God, you can never be
disappointed, because the outcome will always be good." "As far as illness, we believe we can have divine
health if we serve God, so that we do not ever get sick." "Another example, recently around 100 people died in
a night club. No surprise there, we teach our young people to stay away
from places like that. So if a lot of people die in a night club or a
dance hall, then that confirms for us what we already believe, that it is
the will of God for us to be Holy, Pure, Sanctifed, set apart from the
world and not to go to places like that." "I mean that if the romans were successful in
destroying scriptures one could have collected writings from the commoners
and put the bible back together word for word. There is more secular
writings about Jesus than Julius Ceaser." "Another thing you can look at, that is secular is
the reson we are in the year 2003 AD and 2004 years ago it 1 BC. If he was
not an important figure in His day do you honestly think the secular world
would have recorded time based upon His life?" "We've had a thread on this [anti-sodomy laws]
before. Texas is a sterling exemplar for the rest of the nation." "Yes. There is no place for soddomy. This country is
founded on Christian values, and our code of law is based on Christian
law, and it should be upheld in every way." [After it's pointed out that the Hebrew word for
'sodomy' more accurately translates to 'temple prostitution instead of
'homosexuality'] "I figured you'd make an argument over
translation. That's the fall back everyone uses in dealing with the bible
when their argument holds no weight." "Just because the Treaty of Tripoli states that our
government is not founded on the basis of the Christian religion does not
mean that they can change the past." "That's Orwellian logic. Just because you report that
the past was different from how it actually was does not make it so." "Any verse or chapter in a King James Bible is more
authoritative than any set of books that any scholar wrote about
them." "Those of us who believe God are able to recognize
the clues left in the record of nature that put the lie to the cleverly
devised stories of those who hate God." "Those that hate God are blinded by their rebellion
and devise clever stories of creation in which God has no part." "I really do hate the catholic church. They condemn
people and make them feel terrible because they didn't fulfill all the
church's dumb little requirements to be saved." "I hope Jesus smites the Catholic Church! It is a
disgrace to Christianity!!" [On Roman Catholic Church traditions] "BUt noooooo, I wanna believe in fairy tales. but this, but that. OPEN YOUR FRIGGIN EYES! BIBLE=REAL RCC TRADITION= FABLE rcc makes it up, and the sheep blindly follow." "Well in a nutshell---or do you think I am a nut
case? For the newbies------ I believe that I have the faith and knowledge
to establish the Kingdom of GOD in this tumultuous earth and bring peace.
To do this I will take two examples out of the Scriptures and repeat them
here in this day and age. 1) To blind James Randi and Andrew Harter during
the Radio Show and there by collect the million-dollar prize----Randi has
agreed to this. 2) In addition to this I will at the same time blind some
49 others who have volunteered and who are on the LIST. This will take
place simultaneously at 9:30 PM on Thursday half an hour into the Randi
show." "Not blind yet? Well ALL out yonder the 14th November 2002 9:30 Eastern Time has come and gone, and Randi Co. retain their sight. The one point that I am glad about is that this TIME is firmly established—AND that the event is well publicised. Now I am not going to justify what may appear to be a failure in carrying out this prediction but rest in the fact that there will be success. My studies on human behaviour is complete—AND the conclusion is as I have stated, that man has broken the Commands of the GOD of Israel and that HE as the ONE AND ONLY GOD is justified in judging the world for this. This judgment is so severe because the sin is so serious.[...] You SEE ALL a rejection of the TRUTH will mean that you are an accomplice with those who killed Jesus because of what He proclaimed---Kill the messenger in a an attempt to still the message has always been the case. There is still hope for those who REPENT." "Where do the dinosaurs fit in?? ohh...right between
apes and man--those are the fossils right??" "Care to show us evidence of evolution happening
currently Janet? (and bacteria becoming resistant to antibiotics isn't
evolution). Evolution is a process that takes a long time, not observable
in a humans life time." [Replying to 'why isn't antibiotic resistance
evolution?'] "Because evolution is a process of gradual change
and bacteria can become resistant to antibiotics in a short period of
time." "Because the bacteria is still a bacteria after it
mutates. It doesn't evolve into a wolf!" "It gets a little old seeing so many evolution
theologians (it is a religion), say that the parts that cannot be
substantiated by empirical evidence [cosmology, stellar formation,
abiogenesis] are 'not part of the evolution theory.'" "Never in my statements did I say dinosaurs never
existed. They existed and some might say they still do. I know a man named
Paul Nation. He's done some missions in the Congo region. He was working
with some very isolated pygmy tribes there. They were doing a bit of
paleantology as well. Some of the natives there got a hold of one of his
dinosaur books and began describing the temperments of some of the
dinosaurs' pictures. For instance, they said that Triceratops are very
aggressive towards elephants and usually chase them off. They commented
that one of the longnecked dinosaurs(don't remember which) stay in the
river all the time and are very shy and hard to spot. And when you combine
this with the fact that the congo has only been 20% explored, you have a
tangible theory." "Abiogenesis is frequently defined as not part of
evolution but this is disingenupous because the vast majority (95%) of
leading biologists have to believe it is true because they do not believe
in God." "This because evolutionists are acting CONSISTENTLY with a world view that says we are just rearranged pond scum, so there is no transcendent source of objective morality. Therefore it is perfectly CONSISTENT with their world view to bear false witness. After all, morality is merely some chemical process in the brain that conferred some survival advantage on their alleged ape-life ancestors. Conversely, creationists have strong motivation to be
truthful, because Jesus is 'the truth' (John 14:6). So on this grounds
alone, it makes more sense to trust creationist websites like Answers in
Genesis and Institute for Creation Research over the gutter sites run by
the infudgels etc." "Actually, Christians have every reason to be honest
within their own world view, since Jesus is 'the truth' and He commanded
us not to bear false witness. But atheists believe we are just rearranged
pond scum with no transcendent source of morality. Therefore lying is
perfectly consistent with their world view. That explains many of the
posts by atheists on T[heology]W[eb]." "If I felt that Atheism was as valid and worthy of
respect in the same that Christian Theism is than I would not be a
Classical Christian. So you can take that how you like-- I am not a
reletavists and no one expects me to be except people with anti-religious
agendas." "There are many reasons that I can think of that He
commanded [Saul] to kill EVERYONE [of the Amalekites],
including children. Who would take care of them when their parents are
dead, for one?" "The 'Big Bang' theory can't exist... First of all,
two dead cells cannot create a live cell, nor can energy. Second, just
look around you! Do you think we got all of this from a collision of two
rocks? Do you think two dead cells created a single microscopic live cell
that evolved into all of this?" "It makes me wonder about Einstein's theory of E=MC2,
why that is still a theory although it has proven itself time and again.
Does the Big Bang theory have the kind of staying power to be tested
endlessly and not falter? I think it will remain a theory and never be
proven because for us to test this theory, we would have to create our own
Big Bang." "Oh, and without generalizations you can't have
rational discussion. People fit into categories, and the category atheists
best fit into is 'intolerant.'" [In a post about homosexuality, replying to 'The
Levitical laws don't apply anymore'] "Christians are NOT bound by
the word of God?!? GOOD ARGUEMENT!!!!" "IMHO, if God considered something an abomination and
immoral in the old testament, He isn't going to turn around and say it's
okay in the new testament." "It's refreshing to find someone who hasn't been
blinded by evolutionist propeganda." "Over 80% of the world believe in some kind of a god.
Are you people really so big headed that you would say that over 80% of
the world is wrong? Also do you believe that just one bang could create
everything, that like saying a bomb in a printing press invented the
dictionary."
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